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It's not a myth. Most of the H1Bs go to Indian outsourcing firms used by tech companies who then pay them a below market wage. If that wasn't bad enough, we are now seeing H1Bs being exploited for non-tech jobs like accountants:

McDonalds Hires Foreign H-1Bs, Fires 70 American Accounting Staff:
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presi...ign-h-1bs-fires-70-american-accounting-staff/
That is bad this should be restricted to Highly skilled developers or architects with decades of experiences. I am not sure from when accounting is considered as highly skilled job.
 
I an not qualified to comment on your personal experience sir. Yes that is bad but we cannot say it as cheap labor as they might get paid well as per their living standards. Tech sector is a very dynamic industry I always find the need to update my skills with the changing trends some times I spend weekends acquiring new skills. I always feel that the day I stop updating my skills I should quit and look for something else because with my outdated skills I may not make any sense to my employer. I am sorry if spoke some thing wrong these are strictly my thoughts. Have a good night sir.
Most of the Apple Shop staff who walk the floors seem not to know much at all as they always have to ask for more senior advisers to help with simple questions. I'm a Apple user but the Apple shop staff are not as good as they were.
Cook will be on the outer with Trump and you know what this means Apple may be frozen out of the USA.
 
Well, trump is starting to isolate USA, building somekind of DDR2.0. This will work up to a certain level, but not at a long run. Other nations will just jump on alternative partners quickly and continue to be successful.
 
Most of the Apple Shop staff who walk the floors seem not to know much at all as they always have to ask for more senior advisers to help with simple questions. I'm a Apple user but the Apple shop staff are not as good as they were.
Cook will be on the outer with Trump and you know what this means Apple may be frozen out of the USA.

Apple doesn't hire floor staff for their technical talent, they want to sell product so they are looking mainly for appearance, relatability to the demographic they are targetting, customer soft skills and the ability to take **** pay while Apple rakes in billions.
 
Provide your middle eastern country please so we can see how well it has measured up in modern tech achievements vs the US.

Sure. United Arab Emirates. One of the non-banned countries although one of the 9/11 hijackers were from here. Trump also happen to have business interests here but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it.
 
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Most of the Apple Shop staff who walk the floors seem not to know much at all as they always have to ask for more senior advisers to help with simple questions. I'm a Apple user but the Apple shop staff are not as good as they were.
Cook will be on the outer with Trump and you know what this means Apple may be frozen out of the USA.
Apple has much bigger market outside US. I don't think it will freeze its operations. If we take iPhones sales of 2016 out of 590 millions iPhones 490 millions iPhones are sold outside US. I am not very sure how would Apple business will freeze out of USA.
 
Sure. United Arab Emirates. One of the non-banned countries although one of the 9/11 hijackers were from here. Trump also happen to have business interests here but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it.

I assumed it would be UAE, and that's not really that surprising. You aren't exactly working out of a farm village in Iraq.
 
The US media are a bunch of hypocrites. For over a decade they have been sowing fear of Muslims amongst their population with blatantly biased coverage. You reap what you sow. It's a slippery slope. I wonder who will be targeted next. Let me take a wild guess.
 
Ah... it's like the good ol Bush days... Lets ban a bunch of countries that have had nothing to even do with past terrorism incidents in America!!! Saudi Arabia the country that brought you most of the 9/11 terrorists and Bin Laden is totally cool to send people over. Fear fear! It's not the mass shootings and lax gun laws you need to be afraid about! It's these students and people who bring hope and American ideals to the close minded countries they live in! We need to stop it!!!

You people are a joke!
 
I assumed it would be UAE, and that's not really that surprising. You aren't exactly working out of a farm village in Iraq.

So? It seems strange that I can get a decent salary even by american standards when it is so easy to get a work permit here from basically anywhere, whereas americans cannot even though it's much harder to get a US green card. Don't you think?
 
The US media are a bunch of hypocrites. For over a decade they have been sowing fear of Muslims amongst their population with blatentley biased coverage. You reap what you sow. It's a slippery slope. I wonder who will be targeted next. Let me take a wild guess.
The usual suspects are homosexuals and those of Jewish descent. However, Ivanka is Jewish and homosexuals are Americans so you can't just send them away.

Trump is going to seriously struggle to stick with the ban he has now.
 
I had the unfortunate encounter with one of these effected individuals. He is from "shock" Iran!!! And he "yikes" is a college student!!! He was "OMG" incrediblly nice! And he was obsessed with JAZZ Guitar!!!!! It was such a traumatic experience! Now I feel so much safer! Now that we have someone who knows what keeps all Americans up at night! Thanks Mr Trump! You really have tackled the real issues that plague this country!
 
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Sorry Tim,

Since when has HR been on the side of the employee? The proof is in the name...when you're calling people a "resource" as if to be mined, exploited and raped. That language was designed a long time ago as part of the dehumanising methods of business. Is Tim Cock saying there are positions at Apple that can't be filled by Americans? That's surprising if true and according to the last election the public doesn't believe it.

More meaningless empty words from an empty corporate suit. Corporations can be even more dystopian than governments because they only have to answer to rich shareholders, many of which are themselves, and not everybody. Apple has always but especially since TC been in a major propaganda war. You have to read anything from the company as though it's written in double-think/double-speak. Funny how they've become the big brother they fought against in the early years. There's lessons in that for everybody.

Google may be evil but Apple is getting there. I bet if an Apple employee disagrees with these pontifications openly they'll pretty quickly find themselves not an Apple employee anymore.
 
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You can not compare this with what's happening now. Steve Jobs father came from a wealthy Syrian family. He was also very smart, hard working, well educated, as well as being a non-practising Muslim. Any country should be happy to welcome someone like him. But he came to the US in the 1950s, before the welfare state.

So back then, if you were a refugee, you could not rely on the state to provide for you. For example, he lived in NYC with a relative, who was the Syrian ambassador to the United Nations (so obviously not your average refugee). Contrast this with the middle eastern and north African refugees that are flocking to the west today. Most of them are really economic refugees, looking for a better life in the west. But unfortunately, many of them do not have the cultural upbringing or are smart enough to do well in a freer society that has largely done away with low skilled jobs. So too many of them end up on welfare. This builds resentment towards the new host nation and integration is nowhere to be found. And because a lot of them can not identify with the people in their new host nation, due to huge cultural differences, many seek their identity and roots in Islam instead. This seems to happen even more in second and third generations.

Get a grip. Hundreds of thousands of Syrians who have now fled the conflicts in what's left of Syria are smart, hard working and educated, and take a dim view of practioners of terrorism in the name of Islam or in the name of Assad or Russia or rebels/jihadis aided by Iran, the US, Turkey... whichever group last threw shots at them. Their flight takes part of Syria's middle class with them... Any country might well welcome them, and yes, many countries have been welcoming them. We were welcoming at least a few until Trump decided to do a quick checkoff of an item on his list of campaign promises to xenophobes. Those who resettle here are offered benefits for up to three months and after that are on their own. They want to work and be independent as they once were in Syria. Michigan or Illinois are attractive destinations since they already have Syrian American populations of long standing who can help the refugees feel at ease and help them network for jobs.
 
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Wow that's a lot of replies. Far too many to read, but I'm guessing the general idea is that Mr. Cook shouldn't be diverting resources to sending emails when he could be in the workshop machining a new Mac mini prototype from a billet of aloominum. He should definitely be fired, I'm quite sure :D

In all seriousness though I do personally think that Apple should minimise their public involvement in political issues. I understand the letter implies Apple is directly affected, but, hmmm...possibly more from a political viewpoint than an actual practical one. Obviously I do not pretend to know many of the facts, but I have a hard time imagining there are many Apple employees stranded at airports in orange jumpsuits. Most likely some are just offended.
 
Yes Tim, yesterday's order is going to hurt innovation and not your focus on profits above all. Focus on products Tim, or build more factories and R&D centres outside US...immigration policy is not stopping you, you can work around it like you do with tax.
 
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If an American company relies so much on "illegal immigrants" that it has a negative effect when they get "temporarily banned", something is wrong with the system. Any legit US citizen should be concerned.
Admit it, you don't really understand what all of these terms really mean, right? Either that or you are purposefully lumping a bunch of unrelated groups together. Tim Cook didn't say anything about "illegal immigrants", and I don't expect Apple knowingly employs any. They're talking about people who aren't US citizens but who are here legally, all above board.
 
In all due respects Timothy, I would believe you if you weren't so pathetic in terms of donating money to the Republican Party and super pacs that support Republican candidates. It is all very nice now to have buyers remorse but it was your company's money (along with others) that ultimately gave the Republicans a majority in the upper and lower house to enact the laws that Trump wants passed. For me I'm having difficulty believing Tim actually cares as much as he tries to make out when he is happy to snivel up to Orrin Hatch who compared the idea of a gay person teaching children as akin to a teacher who was an avowed NAZI.
 
So even though he's continuing to earn Apple billions of dollars in profit you think he should step down because it's triggering you that he has a different political opinion than your own...
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No, he should step down because the products under his leadership are sub par. AND HE DIDN"t earn Apple billions, Steve Job's product line did, the engineers who built the products did! All this fool did was be there when Apple went into China, and Apple's growth came from there. If anything, you should be criticizing him for Android taking the majority of the much market share in China.

Where in my post did you think I said he should step down because of his opinion?
 
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