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There is a difference between having an opinion and being insulting while factually wrong.

It's a proven fact that the President both has a problem with females and minorites(and those with disabilities and those who are Muslim and those who are....) and has a track record of attacking judges who put him in check.

If the facts insult you I suggest applying for a job at the White House.
 
How do you know they are lower income or make less than you when they are, as you say, "decked out to the nines"? Is it, by some remote possibility, the color of their skin?
Don't start with a stupid statement. What a bright idea. Why not ignore the actual problems and issues by turning it into some sort of conversation over labels and generalizations. There are real economic problems for many Americans.
 
I didn't say the ban was lifted. Go back and read my post. Further your second paragraph suggests his action is unconstitutional, which it is not. The law permits him to take this action. The administrative issue of approved vs. not approved Visas being allowed is not a constitutional question. It's procedural.

This has to be my last post for now, so I'll try to avoid being argumentative.

You said: "And a judge lifted that ban". It was in reference to the travel ban as it pertains to tech employees with visas. No judge has lifted the travel ban AFAIK.

Two judges have rules that the detention and deportation of arrivees who were already in transit, is likely unconstitutional. The ban isn't unconstitutional. It's the detention of those in transit.

If you have better info feel free to correct.

I don't recall how my paragraphs broke down, but for the record, I think the ban is absurd, and it's clumsy and aggressive enforcement is nothing but a show of strength. Trump has acted for appearances rather than effect, and has done so with blatant disregard for the constitution, and for the anguish it will cause to thousands of innocent people. In particular the detentions of a couple of hundred people can't possibly have any positive effect on the security of US citizens, but some of those people must have been absolutely distraught.
 
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This has to be my last post for now, so I'll try to avoid being argumentative.

You said: "And a judge lifted that ban". It was in reference to the travel ban as it pertains to tech employees with visas. No judge has lifted the travel ban AFAIK.

Two judges have rules that the detention and deportation of arrivees who were already in transit, is likely unconstitutional. The ban isn't unconstitutional. It's the detention of those in transit.

If you have better info feel free to correct.

I don't recall how my paragraphs broke down, but for the record, I think the ban is absurd, and it's clumsy and aggressive enforcement is nothing but a show of strength. Trump has acted for appearances rather than effect, and has done so with blatant disregard for the constitution, and for the anguish it will cause to thousands of innocent people. In particular the detentions of a couple of hundred people can't possibly have any positive effect on the security of US citizens, but some of those people must have been absolutely distraught.

Maybe instead of being distraught they should rise up against their oppressors and take their country back. They wouldn't be on this list.

I'm not disagreeing with you about those in transit. They have approved Visas hence the rule on procedure. If the law or the order were unconstitutional, then then they would have been vacated, but they were not.
 
And the educated rich people, actors and others who ALSO voted for him. But no, just the white middle class. You may want to try expanding your facts a little further, continuing to spread the same false information over and over and over doesn't make it any more true. Oh, by the way, you still lost.

I didn't lose as I'm not a US citizen. I just enjoy the spectacle from the other side of the ocean. Just when the US finally got some of its credibility back after eight years Obama, you vote Trump in the White House? We're just glad you're making a bigger mess than we do.

But in the end we're all losing. Trump is not the man that will bring us closer together. We can just hope there won't be a Third World War in the four years his in office. And let's hope he doesn't destroy the planet with his climate change hoax nonsense. That's what's worrying me. His outdated views on economics versus environment are dangerous because he thinks that the only way to boost the economy is to grow and pollute. And environmental laws just get in the way. So why not continue lying to the people that climate change is invented by the Chinese? Sad!
 
Love how the word racist gets thrown out there in a so often accusatory manner . the accusers do it solely to close down any further discussion.

Only the most willfully ignorant (or just plain dumb) would argue that Trump and his supporters haven't repeatedly nodded to the more racist elements within the Republican Party for political gain. The amount of unbelievably racist crap spewed towards Obama over the past eight years proved that racism is alive and well and in this country. Anyone who can't see that is either racist, ignorant, or, giving the benefit of the doubt, very very naive.
 
I didn't lose as I'm not a US citizen. I just enjoy the spectacle from the other side of the ocean. Just when the US finally got some of its credibility back after eight years Obama, you vote Trump in the White House? We're just glad you're making a bigger mess than we do.

But in the end we're all losing. Trump is not the man that will bring us closer together. We can just hope there won't be a Third World War in the four years his in office. And let's hope he doesn't destroy the planet with his climate change hoax nonsense. That's what's worrying me. His outdated views on economics versus environment are dangerous because he thinks that the only way to boost the economy is to grow and pollute. And environmental laws just get in the way. So why not continue lying to the people that climate change is invented by the Chinese? Sad!

News flash, the inner city (read poor) was a dumpster fire under Obama. All he and his peeps did was give lip service. Now maybe you liked him because he made you feel all fuzzy on the outside, but back home it was a disaster that was made worse by his oppressive policies toward American workers.
 
Only the most willfully ignorant (or just plain dumb) would argue that Trump and his supporters haven't repeatedly nodded to the more racist elements within the Republican Party for political gain/QUOTE]

Everyone Obama killed with a drone was Muslim. Does that mean that Obama was actively targeting Muslims? Does that mean Obama was a racist even though Muslims are not a race?

Doesn't that affect all the Muslims at Apple?
 
"Look at how Trump has given these racists the opportunity to come out of the shadows"

That's what YOU said and by doing so you effectively called all of his supporters(46%) racists.
No, he didn't. He asserted that the group [rascists who are Trump supporters] feel emboldened and that they don't have to hide any more. And support for Trump from avowed white supremacists has been widely covered. That's an actual thing. WRChris quite clearly did not say all Trump supporters are racist - you added that part in so you would have something to get upset about.
 
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Very unwise of the Apple CEO to communicate like this. If there are ANY Apple employees affected (which I highly doubt) this should be an extremely small and insignificant number. As we are talking here about a TEMPORARY measure to evaluate the process.

If I would 'escape' from the dictatorial EU regime and try to aim for asylum in the USA my chances of being allowed into the USA are zero. I would be deported ASAP. And let's be honest this whole refugee/immigrant thing is one big scam with a big industry backing it up. This industry has NOTHING to do with honest people fleeing for their lives, these are calculated business cases with lots of people making money along the process. They send one family member first and then the government will take care that the other members of the family are being flown over.

Lucky for us we have Gutmenschen like Timmy Cook who will know what is best for us and our society. They have very high moral opinions that we all should follow and respect.
 
Not all Trump supporters are racists no but they are willing to look the other way on it which is just as bad some may argue.
 
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Only the most willfully ignorant (or just plain dumb) would argue that Trump and his supporters haven't repeatedly nodded to the more racist elements within the Republican Party for political gain.
Oh, Trump disavowed the support of white supremacist groups. After they all voted for him. How convenient.
 
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And if you can't see that Trump's base is a bunch of ignorant racist fools, you're right, we're done.
And his base ALSO includes educated, wealthy people. But hey, let's be a loser who just keeps spouting what the MSM told you, you obviously can't think for yourself. Thank god for block.
 
Not all Trump supporters are racists no but they are willing to look the other way on it which is just as bad some may argue.

Worse, I think. I can at least respect an unabashed racist for being true to himself. But the cowards who look the other way...they're the worst of the worst.
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And his base ALSO includes educated, wealthy people. But hey, let's be a loser who just keeps spouting what the MSM told you, you obviously can't think for yourself. Thank god for block.

MSM? Like Fox?
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Oh, Trump disavowed the support of white supremacist groups. After they all voted for him. How convenient.

Trump is a master at manipulating the stupid. He's been bilking the American taxpayer for decades, yet runs this folksy "make America great again" campaign. I don't know what depresses me more, his hypocrisy or the fact that his followers line up like pigs at the trough, questioning nothing.
 
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Worse, I think. I can at least respect an unabashed racist for being true to himself. But the cowards who look the other way...they're the worst of the worst.

And at the end of the day that's really what his win comes down to: tens of millions of Americans put party before their own moral center and even worse, before their country.
 
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Then he really should resign and run/lobby do whatever to be a source of change. Sitting as CEO and interjecting to a degree is like sitting here on a forum whining/debating like we all are. So instead why not actually do something to change what is going on... "Armchair CEO"/"armchair politician"

It amuses me that on multiple posts calling for Tim to run for office or a start a lobby, they start with the logical first step of resignation from the company, yet we are still waiting for Trump to resign from his company.
 
No point blaming Trump or Farage. They're only doing what the majority of people voted for. The fact is milions of people in the UK & US voted against the establishment for whatever reason. You have to blame the political class for that failure to connect with their own people. The next few years are certainly going to be interesting.
 
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