HomePod ($300) sounds a lot better than Sonos One ($200).What do you consider the "class" of the HomePod to be?
When you can get a Sonos One for about $150 less, the HomePod is trash.
They are related. Don't pretend that keeping your identity a secret has nothing to do with privacy.That is anonymity, not privacy.
Apple is also the only one who doesn't depend on monetizing your data to generate their revenues. Take Google, for example. They were fined by the FTC for writing malware to bypass Safari to continue tracking. A company that DEPENDS on your data for its very survival should never be trusted to keep your data safe.Cause apple is the only one loudly saying they are pro privacy/security.
Please give some examples that specifically relate to the data that Apple sends to Google when performing a search. Or are you just ASSUMING that Google is able identify you just so you can claim Apple isn't protecting your privacy?If you're online then Google gets your identifying information. There are countless techniques they use to digitally fingerprint users.
This is true, but it isn't just about being paranoid. Think about it this way. Apple says (in Jan 2019) they have 1.4 billion active iOS devices, and several hundred million Macs.
I suspect a huge percentage (99%+) store backups and/or at least use iCloud services for things like Safari history and the like. However, whether it is 50%, or 99%, the total number is between 700 million and 1.4 billion iOS devices, plus macOS. How are all these stored? On other servers, such as Azure, AWS etc. They are of course encrypted so are not much good right now, but the number of hacks we've seen and employees with access to the data is huge. All it would take is one employee to make a backup of all these or make a mistake and leave them accessible which has happened a large number of times. Or one employee to be blackmailed, or just click on a bad link ... . Then all the backups and search histories etc are out there somewhere. There are plenty of government agencies who could be doing it. USA, China, Russia, Australia, Canada, UK - many would like that kind of data.
After they are compromised, all it takes is one person out of a somewhat large group with access to the keys at Apple to be compromised - criminal, blackmailed, stupidly clicking a link, huge payday, heart bleed or other software bug letting someone in etc - and then all those backups and histories are available. They don't have to occur simultaneously. The backups could've been compromised in 2015 or 2016 and just sit there until the key is compromised. 700 million to 1.4 billion is a huge target that would be worth a lot to the right people.
Contrarily, if you accomplish all of the above above, but only for one key individually, sure it would be bad for the one person compromised by losing their key, but it wouldn't be bad for the other 699.999999 million devices.
It isn't just being paranoid, it is thinking about how the ecosystem can be compromised and the consequences of having it happen.
A huge data breach would be terrible for everyone involved, and would devastate Apple's reputation for caring about privacy and consequently the stock price.
Just think about the number of CVEs for bugs each year and the number of security updates for all devices to close them and then all it takes is 1 to hit the wrong person and hundreds of millions of people lose their privacy.
Tim Cook for President 2020.
Apple is also the only one who doesn't depend on monetizing your data to generate their revenues. Take Google, for example. They were fined by the FTC for writing malware to bypass Safari to continue tracking. A company that DEPENDS on your data for its very survival should never be trusted to keep your data safe.
Those companies can't talk about privacy because they'd get laughed at. So they keep quiet so as not to draw attention to themselves.
This is true, but it isn't just about being paranoid. Think about it this way. Apple says (in Jan 2019) they have 1.4 billion active iOS devices, and several hundred million Macs.
I suspect a huge percentage (99%+) store backups and/or at least use iCloud services for things like Safari history and the like. However, whether it is 50%, or 99%, the total number is between 700 million and 1.4 billion iOS devices, plus macOS. How are all these stored? On other servers, such as Azure, AWS etc. They are of course encrypted so are not much good right now, but the number of hacks we've seen and employees with access to the data is huge. All it would take is one employee to make a backup of all these or make a mistake and leave them accessible which has happened a large number of times. Or one employee to be blackmailed, or just click on a bad link ... . Then all the backups and search histories etc are out there somewhere. There are plenty of government agencies who could be doing it. USA, China, Russia, Australia, Canada, UK - many would like that kind of data.
After they are compromised, all it takes is one person out of a somewhat large group with access to the keys at Apple to be compromised - criminal, blackmailed, stupidly clicking a link, huge payday, heart bleed or other software bug letting someone in etc - and then all those backups and histories are available. They don't have to occur simultaneously. The backups could've been compromised in 2015 or 2016 and just sit there until the key is compromised. 700 million to 1.4 billion is a huge target that would be worth a lot to the right people.
Contrarily, if you accomplish all of the above above, but only for one key individually, sure it would be bad for the one person compromised by losing their key, but it wouldn't be bad for the other 699.999999 million devices.
It isn't just being paranoid, it is thinking about how the ecosystem can be compromised and the consequences of having it happen.
A huge data breach would be terrible for everyone involved, and would devastate Apple's reputation for caring about privacy and consequently the stock price.
Just think about the number of CVEs for bugs each year and the number of security updates for all devices to close them and then all it takes is 1 to hit the wrong person and hundreds of millions of people lose their privacy.
I guess it’s fitting to point this out again.
https://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2017/4/26/apple-isnt-a-tech-company
Apple isn’t a tech company. Warren Buffet gets it. Perhaps in time, the rest of Macrumours will too.
They are related. Don't pretend that keeping your identity a secret has nothing to do with privacy.
Apple is also the only one who doesn't depend on monetizing your data to generate their revenues. Take Google, for example. They were fined by the FTC for writing malware to bypass Safari to continue tracking. A company that DEPENDS on your data for its very survival should never be trusted to keep your data safe.
Those companies can't talk about privacy because they'd get laughed at. So they keep quiet so as not to draw attention to themselves.
Please give some examples that specifically relate to the data that Apple sends to Google when performing a search. Or are you just ASSUMING that Google is able identify you just so you can claim Apple isn't protecting your privacy?
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Ah, yes. The old "what if" doom & gloom scenario.
These nightmare cases could happen to anyone. The real difference between Apple and everyone else on privacy is that Apple doesn't need your data to survive (unlike Google or Facebook who make virtually all their revenues from your data).
Funny typo.He does not have Facebook, Instagram Wahstap, anything!
have you ever consider that Tim is totally unfair to some of us, prices, products, etcMost of you are totally unfair to Tim Cook. Ridiculous.
If google was to let other 3rd parties access "our data", those 3rd parties would have no reason to pay google to show ads. Google has a strong monetary incentive to keep "our data" safe. Google's main business is ads. Google doesn't sell more ad space by selling/losing "our data".
Apple on the other hand makes their money selling hardware. They already got paid. They have no real strong incentive to keep "our data" safe. There are no negative consequences if apple was to lose our data on purpose or accidentally.
Is that the reason enough not to buy hardware (tech) from them?I guess it’s fitting to point this out again.
https://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2017/4/26/apple-isnt-a-tech-company
Apple isn’t a tech company. Warren Buffet gets it. Perhaps in time, the rest of Macrumours will too.
Apple isn’t a tech company. Warren Buffet gets it. Perhaps in time, the rest of Macrumours will too.
Cook is an engineer, so I think it’d go well, actually. But you won’t give him credit for that.have you ever consider that Tim is totally unfair to some of us, prices, products, etc
the only thing i find ridiculous is mr cook being apple CEO
the man can’t run a keynote but he can do interviews and public relations
he can talk and answer questions as long as they are not about technology and how their devices work
ask mr cook a technical question about software or hardware and see how that goes
"...if we can't make the best product, we don't go in"
*Except for smart speakers.
Exactly! I don't know where people get off always saying Google sells your data because they don't. Those comments are laughable to say the least.If google was to let other 3rd parties access "our data", those 3rd parties would have no reason to pay google to show ads. Google has a strong monetary incentive to keep "our data" safe. Google's main business is ads. Google doesn't sell more ad space by selling/losing "our data".
It’s easy for Tim to say this now when the bulk of apples revenues and profits come from selling hardware. But what happens now that Apple is getting into the subscription business? How do they offer a compelling TV product if they know nothing about me and what I like to watch and can’t share that with the content creators making the shows? Also how does Tim propose non-hardware companies make money when people don’t want to pay for things? The reason the advertising model exists is because people want services like Facebook and Google search to be “free”.