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Self driving cars and algorithms won't fix traffic jams as long as you've got millions of surbanites trying to get into a relatively small space in the city at the same time followed later in the day with the same people leaving simultaneously. You may be able to cut down on some inner city traffic congestion, but the traffic jams like you find on the California highways aren't going away without major road construction.

Waze has done a good job showing commuters the route using known traffic conditions and all available roads, but the pushback has grown as it leads commuters through residential neighborhoods.

Didi Chuxing may work in China where cars are still a relative luxury, average income is only about $5,000 per year, and people still live fairly close to where they work. In most American cities though, the problem is primarily a matter of capacity. Either we build more roads or we find a way to move jobs out of the city.
 
And Cook is a globalist, I don't think he cares just about America.

Not globalist but a traitor and national threat to the West for hiding money offshore and not paying fair share of taxes while bankrupting or swindling companies and transferring intellectual property offshore like with UK Dialog Semiconductor, UK Imagination Technologies, US GT Advanced, US Qualcomm, etc. Timothy Cook should be locked up in Gitmo more than anyone else.
 
I understand the frustration, but it was really positive to see Apple last month admit the shortcomings they've had recently. It means they're starting to take feedback more seriously.

I don't think Apple is starting to 'Seriously' listen to customer feedback, as they always have been open to feedback from their customer base through email, chat and or phone. It's a matter of how they're are addressing that feedback.

Apple also understands there is a disgruntled following that would like answers to the products they Were once faithful too and they are acknowledging their current projects. We all know Apple makes a great product, Apple's following just wants to be in the loop of what is going on and where they currently stand.
 
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Self driving cars and algorithms won't fix traffic jams as long as you've got millions of surbanites trying to get into a relatively small space in the city at the same time followed later in the day with the same people leaving simultaneously. You may be able to cut down on some inner city traffic congestion, but the traffic jams like you find on the California highways aren't going away without major road construction.

Waze has done a good job showing commuters the route using known traffic conditions and all available roads, but the pushback has grown as it leads commuters through residential neighborhoods.

Didi Chuxing may work in China where cars are still a relative luxury, average income is only about $5,000 per year, and people still live fairly close to where they work. In most American cities though, the problem is primarily a matter of capacity. Either we build more roads or we find a way to move jobs out of the city.

Mainly what would help right now is staggering shifts. At least in the city where I am we've got a huge percentage going to work around 7-8am and then going home around 4-5. Companies need to get away from this everything taking place between 8 and 5 routine.
 
I don't think Apple is starting to 'Seriously' accept or listening to customer feedback. Apple has always been open to feedback from their customer base through email, chat and or phone.

Apple also understands their is a disgruntled following that would like answers to the products they Were once faithful too and they are acknowledging their current projects. We all know Apple makes a great product, Apple's following just wants to be in the loop of what is going on and where they currently stand.
I wouldn't agree with this.
After all the negativity about the 2016 MBP and the so called "hello again" event, Apple leadership was first dismissive about the complaints. Not just about the MBP, but about Macs in general. It wasn't until recently it seemed that Apple has done a complete 180 about the Macs, displays, and the Pro market.

The only other time recently that Apple has give info about a future Mac release was in 2012, after the negativity brewing from the pitiful Mac Pro update. Now, I think the negativity is so much worse.
 
Sure, maybe in China where the government spends billions on infrastructure to keep GDP numbers high. But not in the US (if that's where Tim is referring to). Here you'd be lucky for a road to have the lines painted on it visibly.
 
I wouldn't agree with this.
After all the negativity about the 2016 MBP and the so called "hello again" event, Apple leadership was first dismissive about the complaints. Not just about the MBP, but about Macs in general. It wasn't until recently it seemed that Apple has done a complete 180 about the Macs, displays, and the Pro market.

The only other time recently that Apple has give info about a future Mac release was in 2012, after the negativity brewing from the pitiful Mac Pro update. Now, I think the negativity is so much worse.

You're sort of on a different tangent from where I'm going with this. My point was, is that Apple has always been open to their customer base with concerns or feedback, rather that be good or bad. They are finally addressing the long winded questions of the future of the iMac/Mac Mini and Mac Pro. Those are the products that have seem to be long lost along the way. There will always be negativity even when they do release those products, because it won't meet everybody standards or expectations. Nonetheless, their open to the future of those products is moving forward.

But judging from your post(s)on the first page of this thread, you seem to be the one of the many that want to throw punches at Apple without actually seeing what they produce for results first. So perhaps Patience is a virtue in your situation and seeing what they do produce in the long run. Now, most won't rest easy until they see those changes, but nonetheless, Apple came forward and did so gratuitously.
 
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I was very confused at first, thinking Didi Chuxing was the name of the woman pictured in the article, until I started reading then realized I had no clue what Didi Chuxing even was, and the article didn't bother to let the reader know.

I guess I can go research that, then come back and re-read this article...
 
And Apple may go the way of Nokia!

You know, Nokia, the Leading phone maker that was "untouchable"

Maybe that's why they're working on an electric car?

What I think is interesting is the decision companies have to make. Apple says focus is important, but most people agree Microsoft missed the boat on mobile. What if Microsoft were just focusing on the PC and Xbox? How do you make sure you're focusing on the right things?
 
Mainly what would help right now is staggering shifts. At least in the city where I am we've got a huge percentage going to work around 7-8am and then going home around 4-5. Companies need to get away from this everything taking place between 8 and 5 routine.
I agree with this.

I work for a very large organization, and there was a huge consolidation of manpower a decade ago. The road to get into the very large campus became so congested, that it would take about 30min - 1 hour of time to drive the last 1 mile of the commute.

Things that were done to help alleviate this was: staggered work schedules, between 6am and 9am. Telework option for one day a week. Alternative work schedules so basically get one extra day off every other week. And compressed work schedule where you work 10 hour days for four days.

Usually, most people choose a combo of a few options from above, for example, some people telework one day a week, and work a compressed work schedule so they are only in the office 3 days a week.

These options could lead to other issues, but as for the traffic, there is hardly ever a time that you have to wait for than 5 minutes to get on campus.
 
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Apple CEO Tim Cook Says Didi Chuxing 'May Help Traffic Jams Go the Way of the Flip Phone'

Wow, Timmy is a humiliation to Apple every time he opens his mouth. Magically awesome how he's doubled down on losing the ability to speak like a normal person.
 
More reason Timothy Cook should be fired since he should be back home in California solving problems before going abroad.

That's why Tesla is king since AI and autopilot will remove the flaws of human driving from the equation and being based in the heart of Los Angeles they know traffic better than anyone else.

same practices can be applied to usa traffic. also, who said they're not focusing in the USA? they have cars driving around USA as we speak gathering data. https://maps.apple.com/vehicles/
 
Apple's Didi Chuxing investment provides Apple with access to data...

So Apple's not collecting data on anyone it's just having its lackeys do it for them.
 
It's very interesting to see the evolution of transportation through Tesla and Lyft and Uber and such here in the US. I look forward to the day when my fully automated electric car drives me around. :)

"my fully automated electric car" => "Ride-sharing companies' fully automated electric car"

, and, at a total cost lower than owning and maintaining a car in person.
 
You're sort of on a different tangent from where I'm going with this. My point was, is that Apple has always been open to their customer base with concerns or feedback, rather that be good or bad. They are finally addressing the long winded questions of the future of the iMac/Mac Mini and Mac Pro. Those are the products that have seem to be long lost along the way. There will always be negativity even when they do release those products, because it won't meet everybody standards or expectations. Nonetheless, the open with me to the future of those products is moving forward.
I can agree with this, as I misunderstood your post at first.

But judging from your post(s)on the first page of this thread, you seem to be the one of the many that want to throw punches at Apple without actually seeing what they produce for results first. So perhaps Patience is a virtue in your situation and seeing what they do produce in the long run. Now, most won't rest easy until they see those changes, but nonetheless, Apple came forward and did so gratuitously.
I could also agree with this, as I am losing my patience with Apple. I have been a very long-time Apple fan, but as of late, I find myself getting very annoyed with Apple, even at little stupid things that would have never bothered me before. Example, all the MR articles of Apple/Cook getting involved in some political thing. Normally, I couldn't care less about this, and would probably agree with Cook on a lot of topics, But now, I feel like Apple's leadership puts too much focus on the silliest things, and not on the things that made me love Apple in the first place.

you seem to be the one of the many that want to throw punches at Apple without actually seeing what they produce for results first.
Normally this isn't me, as you could always check out my early posts when I first switch to MR, defending Apple on the then rumored ATV4 and the rumored TV service.
Jaded people putting down Apple's rumored products before they came out and not knowing the details of them. Little did I know then, that many of them were right.

I could agree with you that I am becoming a little more jaded when it comes to Apple, and their products, mostly due to the recent direction that Apple seems to be going in.

Don't get me wrong, I am happy about Apple's refocusing of the Mac line. I just can't help but think about how excited I was about the "hello again" event. More excited that I have been about any recent Apple event, thinking that this was going to be an epic event.

Only to be epically let down.
was very confused at first, thinking Didi Chuxing was the name of the woman pictured in the article, until I started reading then realized I had no clue what Didi Chuxing even was, and the article didn't bother to let the reader know.

I also was confused about the same thing, and I might have to re-read the article again.
 
Self driving cars and algorithms won't fix traffic jams as long as you've got millions of surbanites trying to get into a relatively small space in the city at the same time followed later in the day with the same people leaving simultaneously.

In most American cities though, the problem is primarily a matter of capacity. Either we build more roads or we find a way to move jobs out of the city.

Disagree. AI and autopilot can offer more immediate and long term benefits than increasing capacity alone. For example, they will help with traffic load balancing and scheduling to reduce bottlenecks, automate ride sharing via crowd sourcing to reduce # of cars on the road, improve energy consumption and decrease wear and tear by eliminating constant stop and go with auto distance buffering, eliminate human induced accidents that jam up freeways with lengthy delays, reduce cars on the road with affordable autopilot ride sharing, etc. This is where Tesla and Google Waymo are leading. On the other hand, increasing capacity alone usually worsens traffic a lot since they do surprise freeway shut downs, detour millions of cars through one residential exit and construction is never ending.
 
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Self driving cars and algorithms won't fix traffic jams as long as you've got millions of surbanites trying to get into a relatively small space in the city at the same time followed later in the day with the same people leaving simultaneously. You may be able to cut down on some inner city traffic congestion, but the traffic jams like you find on the California highways aren't going away without major road construction.

Waze has done a good job showing commuters the route using known traffic conditions and all available roads, but the pushback has grown as it leads commuters through residential neighborhoods.

Didi Chuxing may work in China where cars are still a relative luxury, average income is only about $5,000 per year, and people still live fairly close to where they work. In most American cities though, the problem is primarily a matter of capacity. Either we build more roads or we find a way to move jobs out of the city.

or LARGELY improve public transportation systems.
 
Careful Cook, or you'll soon start believing your own ********.
 
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Waze does a fine job with this, routing hundreds of cars through residential shortcuts, pissing the homeowners off.

I love it.
Yea, though parking a car on both sides of the street to limit traffic to one way would help congest enough to route traffic elsewhere. Just need to be innovative to address the issue.
 
Didi Chuxing may work in China where cars are still a relative luxury, average income is only about $5,000 per year, and people still live fairly close to where they work. In most American cities though, the problem is primarily a matter of capacity. Either we build more roads or we find a way to move jobs out of the city.

Umm... China has a 50 lane highway:eek::eek:. And the biggest traffic jam ever in history was on that 50 lane monster that stretched for 60 miles and lasted 10 days. Don't say China doesn't have traffic problem.
Vehicles-stuck-in-traffic-jam-due-to-check-point-in-China.jpg
 
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