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Funny you say that. During Easter I was in Yorkshire dales in an information centre and I overheard a discussion by the manager and some tourists, the manager said that she had so many people turn up to the wrong location cause of iPhone "maps" and could not understand why people did not verify where they were going instead of just trusting thier smartphones.

Apple maps badly needs an offline mode . Google maps saved my bacon on tHe weekend.
Yep sure is. My preference still though from a performance POV would be Tom Tom, Built in nav, Google Maps, Garmin………Apple Maps, Co Pilot.
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The best way to get rid of traffic jams is to get rid of cars.

The better solution would be to develop housing around a public bus, train or subway transit system and to make our communities more walkable and bikeable.
..and more restrictive.
 
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Tim, while solving the traffic jam in China, you just created an Apple mothership that will force 5000 people travel to the office creating traffic jam on the roads near to the office! Wish you had thought about that before building your new headquarter.

I work in a building right next to the spaceship, and I dread the thought of what the roads will be like when it officially opens. I could start biking to work, but the extra traffic means it'll be more likely I'll get hit by a car. I guess I can be happy that the spaceship might drive my nearby house's value up even further.
 
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Mainly what would help right now is staggering shifts. At least in the city where I am we've got a huge percentage going to work around 7-8am and then going home around 4-5. Companies need to get away from this everything taking place between 8 and 5 routine.

I don't see many family oriented people dying to work 12-9pm. 7/8 - 4/5 are the desirable hours to work, that won't change because it just doesn't mesh as well with the rest of life.
 
The flip phone is a weird analogy for this. You usually use it to describe an outdated technology.

Anyway, sounds cool. Speaking of that, I've been thinking about improving traffic if you make people take unintuitive routes. Maybe alter most of the 4-way intersections to only allow straight and right one way and right only the other way, and also add some left-only intersections... then you take out most of the traffic lights because they'd be no longer needed, or reprogram them to statically indicate the intersection type. So, in some cases, you'd make three rights to do a left, but you wouldn't have to stop.

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Waze has done a good job showing commuters the route using known traffic conditions and all available roads, but the pushback has grown as it leads commuters through residential neighborhoods.

Drivers looking for short cuts through residential streets are known as rat-runners in the UK.

Residents on my street in London have been campaigning for the street to be closed to through traffic and apps like Waze were very useful as supporting evidence why the number of rat-runners was increasing.

Anyway, we were successful and the road was closed to through motor traffic (it is still open for bikes) and the street is now access only for motor vehicles. Google maps were very quick updating when we reported this... Apple maps took a lot longer...

Cars now use a main road where they are meant to be and they can use Waze to tell them how long they will be stuck in traffic. Many of them could cycle or use public transport instead so this is more incentive for them to do so.

If there is too much traffic, then there is too much traffic and there is nothing an app can do about this.

Except, if the app technology is used for a road pricing scheme so every motor vehicle journey is charged based upon origin, destination, route, type of vehicle and time of day. If I travel on public transport then I have a travel card or credit card and every journey can be charged. In cities, I think you will see similar schemes for motor vehicles so in effect, every motor vehicle must have the equivalent of a travel card so they can be charged. The city can then use pricing to help manage traffic.

That is where this technology should be positioned IMO...
 
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I'll be that guy..... wow! Smart, successful, and gorgeous.....

On topic, if her algorithms can indeed lessen traffic jams, that'll be quite an accomplishment.

My feeling is any promise to solve traffic jams entirely is sensationalised and probably mis-reported. Traffic jams are an inevitability when there's too much traffic for the available capacity.

It's probable her software can help to lessen congestion by predicting and routing people away from trouble spots in an intelligent way (i.e. not all the same way) and modelling the flow on effects from re-routes. Software that understands capacity, can monitor current usage/congestion and provide this predictive capacity is what's required. Something existing GPS software and services like Apple Maps do incredibly poorly. I never use the congestion feature of these services for that reason. Very often they make the situation worse!

I don't think it's rocket science but the systems would require some talented programmers and those familiar with network theory to set up, so it's not exactly easy either.
 
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Yea thats odd... But Timmy loves China, im not surprised.

Not really that odd considering Apple bought around a billion dollar chunk of this company. I wouldn't expect Mcdonald's to talk about whoppers either.
 
Flip phones ?
Those things that were really small, light, folded in half, and the batteries lasted for a week ?

I'm sure glad we left all of that nonsense behind , and everyone is now using blackberries .
 
lol the comments in this thread.

Man, I wish I could hire you guys to run my company... you're all so very smart.
 
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I work in a building right next to the spaceship, and I dread the thought of what the roads will be like when it officially opens. I could start biking to work, but the extra traffic means it'll be more likely I'll get hit by a car. I guess I can be happy that the spaceship might drive my nearby house's value up even further.

Nothing wrong with the city re-prioritizing road space: build bike lanes.
 
Flip phones represented extraordinary useful targeted technology that was brushed aside because it couldn't support ad-revenue producing audio and video. Just sayin'.
 
No algorithm in the universe can overcome the stupidity of a human driver. To reduce/eliminate traffic jams, the cars would need to be driverless and coordinated through a system encompassing a particular area.
 
The flip phone is a weird analogy for this. You usually use it to describe an outdated technology.

Anyway, sounds cool. Speaking of that, I've been thinking about improving traffic if you make people take unintuitive routes. Maybe alter most of the 4-way intersections to only allow straight and right one way and right only the other way, and also add some left-only intersections... then you take out most of the traffic lights because they'd be no longer needed, or reprogram them to statically indicate the intersection type. So, in some cases, you'd make three rights to do a left, but you wouldn't have to stop.

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Detroit has a similar system when I visited 15 years ago. I found it annoying having to make a right turn, then a U-turn to turn left. Dunno how folks living in Detroit feel about it, but as a visitor, it made finding my way around a bit more confusing.
 
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Anyone notice this quote by Tim Cook:



What kind of person hijacks praise of someone else into some self-congratulating drivel?

and not only self serving drivel, drivel that is completely anti-thesis to his own actions. His behaviour IS purely bottom line first. you can see it by his involvement in TPP, his catering to wallstreet. The constant reminders about profit and pipelines and sales, and forced margins.

I had a lot of hope when Tim Cook took over Apple, that we'd see a far more progressive leadership that does truly put people first (lets be honest, Jobs was a dick). But instead we got a corporate thug who has no qualms about putting profits first while talking out of the other side of his face about progressive values that barely line up with his own companies behaviour

He turned out to be a bigger ******* IMHO that job's was apparently. At least Job's didnt pretend to be the loving kind caring person. Tim COok has ended up being nothing but a hypocrit
 
Nothing wrong with the city re-prioritizing road space: build bike lanes.

There's already a bike lane going into the Apple Campus. It's unfortunately shared by two other car lanes which will soon become some of the busiest streets in the area. Absolutely no protection for bikers, and I've seen a lot of people hit by cars around here over the years.
 
I don't see many family oriented people dying to work 12-9pm. 7/8 - 4/5 are the desirable hours to work, that won't change because it just doesn't mesh as well with the rest of life.

It would be plenty workable with a family, especially 2 parent families. One parent would have the luxury of taking the kids to school and getting some errands or things done at home until noon, and depending on the other parent's schedule, they could pick up and do the evening meal and activities. Right now too many parents stress about getting out of work at a certain time to get to school activities and stuff. I think schools should also stagger as well, that would get rid of the stress around that too.
 
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