Aren't most specs/benchmarks for pretty much most things out there that get published or used in advertisements usually come from specific environments and specialized (almost lab, if not actual lab) settings anyway?
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Apple CEO Tim Cook Says Power Management Feature in Older iPhones Will Be Able to Be Turned Off in Future Update
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Are you seriously trying to say that the difference between lab and real world measurements is the same as slowing down the real world performance a year after launching the product?
Wow.
Tim Cook's response was suprisingly tone deaf.
The problem is Apple geniuses didn't suggest or offer battery replacements when 2 year old iPhones took major performance hits after os upgrades. The average customer wasn't aware of this option and there's no question Apple withheld this cheap and easy solution to sell more new phones.
This breach of trust which will surely make users hesitant to upgrade, in turn putting a dent apple's high OS adoption rates.
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The problem is Apple geniuses didn't suggest or offer battery replacements when 2 year old iPhones took major performance hits after os upgrades. The average customer wasn't aware of this option and there's no question Apple withheld this cheap and easy solution to sell more new phones.
This breach of trust which will surely make users hesitant to upgrade, in turn putting a dent apple's high OS adoption rates.
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Hey Tim! you know what?
although I love Apple products and I actually own more
than a dozen of them,
YOU ARE A BIG REPUGNANT LIAR!
dont' say "maybe we should have been clearer as well"!
When you secretely decided to throttling our iPhones you
knew for certain that was a policy to force people to upgrade
because THERE IS NO NEED TO THROTTLE AN IPHONE ALSO
WHEN IS CONNECTED TO POWER CORD!
Shame on you old liar!
although I love Apple products and I actually own more
than a dozen of them,
YOU ARE A BIG REPUGNANT LIAR!
dont' say "maybe we should have been clearer as well"!
When you secretely decided to throttling our iPhones you
knew for certain that was a policy to force people to upgrade
because THERE IS NO NEED TO THROTTLE AN IPHONE ALSO
WHEN IS CONNECTED TO POWER CORD!
Shame on you old liar!
Nothing related to that part of it was said or even implied in what I said.
Wow, indeed.
Utterly fake, he’s nothing but a corporate shell, spouting buzz words and phrases ... when he said everything they do is about the user he came across as utterly false. The man should be sacked, imagine thinking “taking something away from the performance” was an acceptable solution. He says they done it so you don’t miss out on that fleeting moment with your camera ...but if you slow my device down and the camera takes longer to open, I’ll still miss it, Tim!
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I can understand that logic for older phones but when you see iPhone 7, last years flagship, getting this “feature” then I call foul.
[doublepost=1516326334][/doublepost]I watched Tim speak on one hand about how all he does is for the user while belittling the same users on the other.
Not one ounce of genuine passion for the product comes from that man, yet listen to Scott Forstall recently, despite being sacked by the company, and his passion for the product is real, his eyes light up, he’s genuine.
I absolutely loathe the man (Cook).
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I can understand that logic for older phones but when you see iPhone 7, last years flagship, getting this “feature” then I call foul.
[doublepost=1516326334][/doublepost]I watched Tim speak on one hand about how all he does is for the user while belittling the same users on the other.
Not one ounce of genuine passion for the product comes from that man, yet listen to Scott Forstall recently, despite being sacked by the company, and his passion for the product is real, his eyes light up, he’s genuine.
I absolutely loathe the man (Cook).
Well, people are generally upgrading less often. Not only iPhone, but other smart phones too. Because there is simply little improvement from model to model.
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Same here, we have three iPhone 6's that had no battery issues for two years, then the throttling came. I don't expect there to be any problems with throttling off, but going to try to replacing the batteries after summer.
It is responses like this that make Apple look very guilty.
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Apparently (going by an old MacRumors articles I found -- https://www.macrumors.com/2015/06/29/applecare-mac-batteries-80-percent/) that's new as of 2015. Sorry for not being completely up to date on Apple services I have never used.
I assume your talking about Samsung? If so you do realize there are many other phone manufacturer's out there besides Apple and Samsung?
Apple posts benchmarks? I’ve only ever seen them compare performance to older iPhone models?
When Tim or Phil gets on the stage and shows how much faster iPhone 8 is than iPhone 7, I expect that to be the case for the life of the device! Not just the first year!
His argument is not defective. Your lack of critical thinking is.
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with the amount of people taking advantage of everything they can against apple, I don't blame them for not disclosing it at all. you'll see people whining and complaining when their battery drops to 95% and they want to change the battery. that just creates more environmental waste. if only some of you worked at a call center / retail then you will see how unreasonable people are. they expect to have the future in the palm of their hands because it cost them their entire month's salary to purchase the phone. those people are so disgusting and what apple has done is protect themselves by disclosing need to know information only because the general public doesnt have knowledge like someone with IT background to be able to understand how tech works. heck even 80% of MR users doesnt even know how a battery works but they still whine about it.
[doublepost=1516337099][/doublepost]with the amount of people taking advantage of everything they can against apple, I don't blame them for not disclosing it at all. you'll see people whining and complaining when their battery drops to 95% and they want to change the battery. that just creates more environmental waste. if only some of you worked at a call center / retail then you will see how unreasonable people are. they expect to have the future in the palm of their hands because it cost them their entire month's salary to purchase the phone. those people are so disgusting and what apple has done is protect themselves by disclosing need to know information only because the general public doesnt have knowledge like someone with IT background to be able to understand how tech works. heck even 80% of MR users doesnt even know how a battery works but they still whine about it.
[doublepost=1516337099][/doublepost]with the amount of people taking advantage of everything they can against apple, I don't blame them for not disclosing it at all. you'll see people whining and complaining when their battery drops to 95% and they want to change the battery. that just creates more environmental waste. if only some of you worked at a call center / retail then you will see how unreasonable people are. they expect to have the future in the palm of their hands because it cost them their entire month's salary to purchase the phone. those people are so disgusting and what apple has done is protect themselves by disclosing need to know information only because the general public doesnt have knowledge like someone with IT background to be able to understand how tech works. heck even 80% of MR users doesnt even know how a battery works but they still whine about it.
It is faster for the life of the device. Because the old device slows down too
I guess that help dramatize the increase in performance of each introduction of new iPhone.It is faster for the life of the device. Because the old device slows down too
There are just too many ways apple can play with our device. "You want a toggle for performance slowdown? Sure. But that doesnt mean your phone will feel any faster."
I see this kind of argument used all the time — if two people are suspected of committing a crime, would you not prosecute the 2nd if the 1st got away? You’re holding your logic wrong
Whhhhhaaat? Where exactly anywhere did Apple suggest upgrades to people having this issue?
Cite the source.
The problem here is that they decrease the performance of your iPhone without your consent. If my iPhone suddenly starts to restart or shut down I can take it to a service provider, change the battery and use it a few years more with the same performance as the day I bought it. If the iPhone becomes slow and I'm unaware that this is caused by battery problem (only Apple has the appropriate diagnostic tools), I have no other option but to buy a new iPhone. There are obviously deficiency in the power management of iOS if you have to reduce performance in order to avoid shutdowns on a battery that is 80% healthy. The fundamental true is that each iPhone becomes slower with each new iOS even with the basic apps as Safari, Mail, Calendar, etc. I want to change my iPhone because I want a new feature available on the new iPhone, not because my older iPhone has become slow crap. If Mercedes reduce the performance of their cars after certain mileage you wont be happy, that for sure even if the reason is to avoid any damage to the engine or something.
Many cars will go into a 'limp mode' if a problem is detected with the engine but unlike the iPhone, a warning will flash up on the dashboard telling you to get it fixed.
Except the iPhone battery design life is half that of an iPad. Something has been compromised.
Apple's test will show the battery as OK even when it's dead and CPU is throttled.
Wonder if they use coconut battery as well.
thats exactly what it is for the most part. people now feel justified about the whole apple is slowing down my phone to make me buy a new phone. These asshats make me sick.
That’s one way to look at it. Another that’s been said repeatedly in this thread is: users were never made aware that a $79 battery swap could potentially “rescue” their phone that was often aggravatingly slow. I had a 5S that was so very snappy for years then almost overnight seemed to pause and drag to the point of unusability, often after one of the recent iOS upgrades which left me thinking my 3 year “old” phone just couldn’t work with this fancy new iOS upgrade anymore and my only option was another damn expensive phone after only a few years of good use for the one I had. Not unlike Ford never communicating to owners the “option” of tune ups and oil changes to address operational issues that are likely to arise after a few years of use.
Whether it’s this “withholding” of key info by not communicating it effectively, or not giving the option/ability to easily swap/upgrade batteries and give owners more flexibility to prolong the life of their hardware - THOSE are deserved critiques even for those of us who understand the point of the energy management thing.