I agree. I said this in another thread several days ago. By Apple's argument it is perfectly reasonable for the cellular providers to apply a 30% tax on all apps. They deserve it as well. Apple is using cellular APIs and the providers have invested billions in infrastructure and R&D. I sure hope the judge agrees with this line of argument.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple CEO Tim Cook Testifies in Epic Games v. Apple Trial
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
But you can though. You're just not supposed to link to it. e.g. you can buy netflix on their website. You can buy epic bucks on their website and all of it gets reflected on the iOS apps no?
Suppose it depends on what tim was including in the denominator.
Tim is done for the open session. Now they are sealing the court room to talk some more.
So don't buy from that corporation.
"Customers don't buy operating systems, they buy devices," said Cook,
Strange. iPhone fans usually state they buy the phone for iOS as they don't want Android.
Strange. iPhone fans usually state they buy the phone for iOS as they don't want Android.
You have the option to jailbreak your device and do whatever you want.
Do you know whether or not we’ll be back today? Or is it over? Regardless, that was a LOT longer than 100 minutes!
Steam exists on macOS. Could someone explain to me how the existence of Steam has negatively impacted macOS users?
I am aware of the doctrine. Also it is important to point out that not all jurisdictions have adopted the doctrine. As I said, the elites have special rules.
"Steam allows macOS users to give money to corporations other than Apple. As a macOS user who loves to throw money at Apple, this disturbs me greatly. But I'm more upset that Apple is not allowed to levy income and property taxes. They absolutely should for the amazing services they provide. I don't like the government telling me what to do. Only Apple! I love the security they give me and because I am the only one that matters, other people should not be allowed to ruin my day. If you don't like it, build your own phone and move to a different planet." ~ said no one, ever 😂
Last edited:
Why can't Apple just treat Epic Games the same as they treat Uber? Apple allows some developers to do in-app signup to their own payment services. Apple wouldn't have to do anything but change their policy. It wouldn't require any additional work on their part at all.
"Cook says that third-party app stores would be "terrible for the user."
No Timmy. It would be terrible for YOU, not the consumer. It would mean more choice (something Apple has never believed in) for the end user. It would be the end of your extortionate cash cow 30% absurdness. It would be the end of the stranglehold you currently have over users and companies.
Your fearmongering isn't stopping the backlash wave rolling into the App Store
No Timmy. It would be terrible for YOU, not the consumer. It would mean more choice (something Apple has never believed in) for the end user. It would be the end of your extortionate cash cow 30% absurdness. It would be the end of the stranglehold you currently have over users and companies.
Your fearmongering isn't stopping the backlash wave rolling into the App Store
This is a disingenuous point. First, prove to me that iPhone fans usually say that. Second, even if they say that, they “buy the phone.” The phone is a ”device.“
the extortion that every other major platform charges and is less then was taken during the physical era?
did you think a company should design, build, develop, market and run one of the biggest stores in the world for free? They should take care of support, user experience, processing fees, etc too? People don’t go to the iPhone because of a certain app. Apps go to the App Store because of the users.
Does disposable income not come into play, too? iPhones are generally more expensive than, or at least on par with, the premium competition. Many people who go with iPhones do so purely for the brand recognition, rather than the value they'll gain from the features.
You have to see it in a bigger context I guess. How does allowing sideloading apps impact macOS users ? Think the argument during the trial was something in line with "there are way more malware and viruses on OS X than there are on iOS" for an example, which of cause have an impact on users.
That is also something i have no evidence for. “Conspicuous consumption” is definitely a thing, but I don’t know a lot of iPhone owners who aren’t happy with the value they get. But who I know is just anecdote. I am not aware of any hard data.
Yet✌️integrated link between hardware, software and services? Shame my airpods max won’t work with Apple Music Hifi when wired
No they don’t. ISPs & cell providers are classified as utilities, Apple’s App Store is not. It’s a digital retail outlet. Companies & individuals already pay ISP’s & cell providers, on a recurring basis, for use of their infrastructure. Just like App developers have to pay Apple to be in the App Store, an infrastructure & ecosystem that Apple invested billions into in order to make it easy & convenient for developers & consumers to engage in a transaction.
Just this week I read an article about how Betsy DeVos will submit to questioning for three hours in some investigation. I despise DeVos and all she stands for, and I think three hours is woefully insufficient, but I understand that there are people who will do a lot just to get someone rich & powerful on the stand.
It's reasonable that they have a say in how much time they're there because they're not integral to the case and you certainly can harass people through the legal system. I think the term is barratry.
By the same the same token you could say Steve Jobs & Phil Schiller didn’t like each other at all (going by the same emails)
This was all agreed upon before it went to trial. This is a civil case, therefore, there are a set of predefined rules and restrictions the lawyers can do. A criminal case does not have these restrictions.