Apple CEO Tim Cook: Trump's Decision to Withdraw From Paris Accord 'Was Wrong for Our Planet'

[AppleFan360]

By the way, science isn't a belief system. You must not hang out with scientists much.

LOL! Now that's funny. As long as science is "consensus" based, it will ALWAYS be a belief system and influenced by political ideology. Get your head out of the sand.

 

[magicschoolbus]

Even sadder is the DNC's assassination of Seth Rich, the leaker. Russia didn't leak anything, it was Seth. Podesta made an example of him alright.

No tinfoil. Time will reveal all. Cross Clintons, end up mysteriously dead. That's how it's always worked.

And Tim, please stick to making gadgets. Trump doesn't want to "cook the earth" he just cares about protecting Americans and finding a better way to go about environmental protection. But I guess he will be blamed for every single climate change headline for the next century. Cool.

Yup. RIP Seth Rich. Killed by the DNC and Clinton Crime Family.

Trump never said he didn't want to be in a climate agreement, and said he was open to negotiating for a new deal.

Trump could cure cancer himself and ascend from the clouds as the second coming and he would still be responsible for everything wrong in the world.

 

[brueck]

Why don't Tim Cook, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk and Bob Iger just bankroll the entire thing themselves then....

Elon Musk already is...

 

[JGRE]

By your logic, Obama was a dictator also then. He failed to go through Congress like our Constitution requires and did it on his own as an "agreement" with other countries rather than a treaty.

That's why Trump is able to undo it just as easily. So, in a round about way, it's Obama the dictators fault.

You are applying reversed-logic, reversed-logic does not work.

 

[satchmo]

Because the future is coal.

Trump doesn't care about Americans, he only cares about his approval rating by Americans.
It's about looking beyond his narcissistic self. About future generations. But he can't look past his reflection on his phone.

 

[BornAgainMac]

Well, look on the bright side. The Russian story is now on the back burner.

 

[slimothy]

**** off, Tim. Go make products and get your head out of your ass. No one cares about your opinion. It didn't change anything when you begged Trump previously, and bitching about it isn't going to change anything. Get prepared for WWDC and make products.

 

[tooltalk]

This is the saddest day in American politics since the assassination of MLK. If you don't think that, I doubt your sanity.

why JKF? Why not McKinney or Lincoln?

 

[coolbreeze]

Yea, I want America to be great again, like in these pictures pre-EPA:

New Jersey, 1973

Virginia, 1974. Looks like a health job with a long life expectancy.

Oil slick around Lady Liberty

Burning old car batteries in Texas 1972. Must smell like America greatness.

Maryland 1973

Yea, this looks like a good world to live in.

While we are cherry picking scary photos, here's one of Salt Lake City...taken by me 2 yrs ago.

Thanks Obama, EPA, and the Paris Accord!

(the sarcasm should be very apparent, anyone can use scary handpicked photos to drum up FUD)

 

[s2mikey]

I still cant believe there are so many suckers that want us to stay in this terrible agreement. Alls it does is cost us jobs, money, and stimies business while allowing other countries to spew crap at will into the atmosphere. The USA is already the world leader in keeping things reasonably clean. Gimme a break.

 

[jkcerda]

I still cant believe there are so many suckers that want us to stay in this terrible agreement. Alls it does is cost us jobs, money, and stimies business while allowing other countries to spew crap at will into the atmosphere. The USA is already the world leader in keeping things reasonably clean. Gimme a break.

liberals quit reading after the word "climate", they simply don't care.

 

[H2SO4]

Is he though? Apple tries to make it so that you replace your computer more often, and they try to make it so that you do it through their own Apple Store's or certified resellers. Same goes for all servicing on the phones, if you want to keep your warranty it must be done through certified service partners.
By doing it this way, Apple has much better control over the entire recycling process and that gives them a much better opportunity to do it in an environmentally friendly way.
How exactly would upgradeable notebooks be friendlier to the environment compared to the one's Apple is currently offering? The technology becomes more power efficient for every generation, having people shrug along their old computers with degraded batteries and higher power requirements is not benefitting anyone.

One can always argue that the whole “use and toss” mentality that we have going on is not good for the enviroment. But claiming that Apple is somehow doing worse for the environment just because their products are not easily upgradeable or serviceable for people outside Apple doesn’t really make much of difference.

This seems more like an argument people use because they don’t like the fact that they can’t easily upgrade their Apple products. They use “environment” as an excuse to get back user replaceable components even though it doesn’t really have anything to do with the environment.

Yes it is. Even they recycle products, but not completely. Recycling a whole lap top rather than replacing a single small component, (even if Apple do it), is not environmentally friendly.
Look here. Even if it was Apple that did these repairs it would be massively more green than the current Apple way.

 

[npmacuser5]

Uh, but if you're not trading with anybody else that doesn't matter at all.

So you are just going to file bankruptcy and ignor the debt? Not realistic.

 

[Tinmania]

To be fair, I think New Jersey still looks the same.

In fairness, it all depends on which exit.



Mike

 

[gnipgnop]

Obviously, Trump couldn't afford to abandon the two greatest allies the U.S. has ever known: Nicaragua and Syria. Without them, the U.S. can't be great again.

 

[2ilent8cho]

O Tim, when Steve was CEO of Apple he played the orchestra, your job was to take over this role. The Mac is so out of tune now my ears bleed, the iPad is playing the wrong note , and the iPhone is sounding very flat.

So stop getting distracted with these political issues and do whats required and play the god dam orchestra!

 

[MistrSynistr]

This thread is the best.

All it is is virtue signaling due to people reading headlines and not actually doing any research as to why this is a good thing for America. Many of you are very intelligent. Many of you also don't do your due diligence.

Times have changed. Parties have shifted. This is not a Dem/Repub issue. This is a us against the Global Elite one.

We are all on the same side. A good brunt of you just haven't been woke yet.

You will.

 

[nt5672]

This is the saddest day in American politics since the assassination of MLK. If you don't think that, I doubt your sanity.

The problem is not the idea of making the environment in the world better. Everyone including the most die hard conservatives believes in that.

The real problems with the whole environmental movement are; that the world thinks America should pay for it, and the world governments have fooled the people into believing that the only way to have a good environment is to create excess regulations, reduce freedom, pay higher taxes, and pay more for goods (all of which are false).

The problem with the environment today is China, Russia, Africa, Central and South America. Europe and America have largely passed on the environment problem by moving all industry to places that don't care about the environment.

Having been a member of most of the popular environmental movements, I can say without a doubt that the leaders of these movements don't care one bit about the environment. They have lavish lifestyles, big homes, and will willing pay to have the comfort and freedom they want to take from us. These organizations have exactly the same goals as the government of the world, control what people and organizations can do and think.

Take for example Al Gore, he has not reduced the number of planes he owns, or reduced his carbon usage, he just wants to put in place a way for him to pay for his usage and for the rest of us, to lose our comfort and freedom, if we can't pay for it. Another example of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. This is what the environmental movements of the world are about today.

 

[jmpage2]

You can't possibly be serious.

The screamfest over Trump's withdrawal from the Paris accord is amusing beyond words. Among the complainers is Tim Cook who I remind you makes his iPhones in China which was immune from mandatory carbon emission cuts. If Tim Cook cared about carbon emissions he would make them somewhere else.

But he hasn't and he doesn't.

Then there's Elon Musk, who stomped off in "indignation" when the announcement was made. The truth is a bit more complex; Musk is a welfare queen and Tesla, including all that it produces (batteries, solar panels and roofs and of course cars) is utterly dependent on both government subsidy and force to make you buy them under penalty of paying more. Tesla loses money on every car it sells and without both government subsidies and a belief they will continue the company is literally at risk of collapse.

Don't take my word for that, by the way -- if you're too lazy to read the company financials for yourself Musk himself has said so.

“I do believe this market cap is higher than we have any right to deserve," Musk said to The Guardian. "This is not some situation where, for example, we are just greedy capitalists who decided to skimp on safety in order to have more profits and dividends and that kind of thing. It’s just a question of how much money we lose. And how do we survive? How do we not die and have everyone lose their jobs?”

Got it folks? Tesla is a money-losing firm. It always has been. There are no profits. It exists because it can steal from the taxpayer and Wall Street believes it will be able to continue to do so and thus lets Tesla float bond issues in the market.

So is Musk truly indignant for the future of the planet or is the real problem that he smells brimstone and the end of his charade? It's not like you have to guess as Musk has told you in plain English (both in interviews and in his quarterly filings) what the truth is.

Then there's Goldman's Blankfein. He, of course, was looking forward to financing "opportunities" (underwriting bonds and similar) for the trillions of dollars that America was going to be forced to give to other nations such as India. You don't really think they'll just wait for the money, do you? Oh no, here comes Goldman with the "opportunity" to get that money now -- for a price, of course. That just went "poof" like a fart in the wind.

The list goes on, of course.

The truth about the Paris Accord is that it was a scam from the outset, just like Kyoto. I wrote on it at the time. The fundamental scam is that it did not impose hard caps on the plurality of the population of the world -- specifically, India and China. Neither had hard caps nor requirements to spend. India, for example, only had to make "reforms" if they were paid to do it by the Untied States and others. Otherwise, no obligation. China -- same deal.

Of course India and China are the two most-populous nations. Between them they're over a third of the world's count of people and India's population continues to rapidly expand. Both China and India will eventually start to see population declines, but not for a good long while, and in any event they'll still be about a third of the planet by 2100.

Exempting either of these nations from any so-called "carbon limits" makes the entire exercise a joke.

I maintain that none of the people backing this crap actually believe that (1) the climate is warming and (2) humans are responsible for it. Remember that you have to believe both; if you believe the first but not the second then nothing we do matters, so both are essential.

If you believe both and you also believe the impact will be catastrophic you have to be flat-out nuts to exclude from carbon limits the fastest-growing nation and between it and the next-largest the two that comprise more than a third of all the people on the planet.

It's clear that if that block of people continue to rapidly emit more CO2 rather than cut it back you will fail.

Therefore any support of such a pact is obviously a scam.

Today, the scam went down in flames -- and so did the pipe dreams of quite a few CEOs and banksters, among them Blankfein and Musk.

You're going to Hell boys, and while there might be some kegs down there I understand there are no taps.

PS: Tesla is a zero.

 

[amegicfox]

says the man who:

- purposefully kills iPhone/iPads and Macs with Planned Obsolescence
- solders ram on the iMac, Mac Mini and laptops so you can't upgrade
- lobbies Washington to fight the ‘right to repair’ legislation
- use child labors and dumps all toxic minerals in rivers and landfills
- ridicule Apple users that have a 5 year old Mac (but didn't update the mac pro in 4 years)
- fly in his private plane spewing all kind of fumes and consume fossil fuel like a mad man instead flying commercial

 

[iMi]

Better focus on "APPLE" and upcoming "WWDC" event Tim!.Give your politics a rest for some time.

Let me get this right. So, one "businessman" (more like a conman) running his business while holding the office of the President of the United States is fine, but God forbid a tech CEO takes a stand on an issue of importance to his employees and his company is wrong.

Something doesn't add up...

 

[amegicfox]

again Tim keeps shoving down Apple's employees throat his liberal SJW agenda. Please stop all this.

Half of Apple employees do not care what your position is on political issues and actually DISAGREE WITH YOU AND YOUR IDEOLOGY

 

[That70sGAdawg]

I'm getting real sick of hearing Tim's politics. Trying out the new Android Blackberry KEYone right now . I know one defector won't hurt Apple, but the number of people sick of his globalists socialist crap is growing and growing..

 

[neutralguy]

Nobody else seems to give a **** about thinking towards the future, I say good on Cook, musk, zuckerberg and others.

I don't think those three are the last people on earth that give a **** about the climate. They all are doing these because of their companies profits and ambitions. They care crap about us or the climate. Just analyze what they do and why they support these international pacts!

 

[gnipgnop]

Having been a member of most of the popular environmental movements, I can say without a doubt that the leaders of these movements don't care one but about the environment. They have lavish lifestyles, big homes, and will willing pay to have the comfort and freedom they want to take from use. These organizations have exactly the same goals as the government of the world, control what people and organizations can do and think.

Take for example Al Gore, he has not reduced the number of planes he owns, or reduced his carbon usage, he just wants to put in place a way for him to pay for his usage and for the rest of us, to lose our comfort and freedom, if we can't pay for it. Another example of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. This is what the environmental movements of the world are about today.

So, on the one hand, you're chastising the wealthy for having comfort and freedom and not really committing themselves to individual change, but on the other hand you're saying that everyone should have comfort and freedom and not have to commit themselves to individual change. Not exactly a rigorous exercise in personal philosophy you've got there.