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Apple CEO Tim Cook: Trump's Decision to Withdraw From Paris Accord 'Was Wrong for Our Planet'
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Well, if we set aside all the ways in which average Americans are screwed by the government and look at this in a vacuum, an increase in your electric bill of 20% is probably really small compared to the damage done to the environment.
There are differences between saving the planet and saving humanity. The planet will be fine, no matter what we do. We will not be fine unless we change some of the things we do, pollution is one of them.
I can't respect the tax/ money argument that people in this thread have. We spend billions on crap, continually, things that won't help anyone, ever. If you're so concerned about money how about taking a stab at things that really take a toll on our day to lives, like unnecessary defense spending or corporate subsidies. Don't complain about spending money on clean water and clean air, without those things you can't continue to complain about all the other things that you wake up angry about.
You don't need to look at this on a global level, you need to look at this like, you're walking down the street and get a mouthful of exhaust, how'd that taste? Is that the natural state of your existence? Can you go to the beach and drink a glass of salt water?
Forget climate change altogether and you'er still left with the fact that pollution sucks and fossil fuels are finite. Get busy living or get busy dying but don't drag me down with your ignorance.
I can't respect the tax/ money argument that people in this thread have. We spend billions on crap, continually, things that won't help anyone, ever. If you're so concerned about money how about taking a stab at things that really take a toll on our day to lives, like unnecessary defense spending or corporate subsidies. Don't complain about spending money on clean water and clean air, without those things you can't continue to complain about all the other things that you wake up angry about.
You don't need to look at this on a global level, you need to look at this like, you're walking down the street and get a mouthful of exhaust, how'd that taste? Is that the natural state of your existence? Can you go to the beach and drink a glass of salt water?
Forget climate change altogether and you'er still left with the fact that pollution sucks and fossil fuels are finite. Get busy living or get busy dying but don't drag me down with your ignorance.
I agree with you. We made a conscious decision to have one child and the state of the environment and the world in general played a role in that decision.
The problem is that people who can't afford to have children, or shouldn't have children, are the ones having children.
Hitch up the Big Boy Pants and follow Musk off the President's Council!
As your Apple board member, Al Gore, said yesterday, "If the President won't lead, the people will!"
As your Apple board member, Al Gore, said yesterday, "If the President won't lead, the people will!"
So Apple putting all their $ overseas in Ireland is ok? I don't know what our President would do IF such a thing was true , but I know his opponent got a congressional subpoena and IMMEDIATELY destroyed 30,000 email of evidence. That we do know...
.....Did you respond to the right post? I didn't say anything about Apple's ******** wealth hording.
The agreement is voluntary, there are no penalties for breaking it and has not been codified into US law. So, apparently it takes three years to withdraw from a nothing agreement that can be ignored right now without consequences. You are falling for the pomposity of it all - this agreement is nothing more than feel good BS.
There are some deep issues within the USA, it appears the USA is at war with itself, between it's citizens. Putting America first is a fight that has forced people onto warring sides of a debate that should never have been a debate.
Perhaps this was always inevitable. There is such misunderstanding of basic facts here that make it incredibly difficult for outsiders to understand how this kind of discussion is even possible. Be it climate change, flat earth, religious beliefs, governmental conspiracy, it all appears to originate from the same place.
The issue here seems to be a miscommunication of the economic benefits of renewable energy. It creates jobs, and lowers energy prices. However those jobs need educated people, and perhaps it is unskilled labourers who are not seeing the benefits.
The Paris accord was an entirely voluntary agreement, with no financial implication. It was about getting a head start on renewable energy whilst preventing climate change from getting any worse. Coal/Oil will dry up, whilst prices are pushed up in return. You need to transition from one to the other, and getting a head start offsets the economic disadvantage later. Pulling out of this agreement will remove American leadership, and lead other nations to produce those renewable sources of energy which the USA will be buying at an increased cost.
But arguing this appears to be pointless as reason and logic have been replaced by political ideals within the US. The world will carry on without America, but it is saddening how this can occur in a modern developed nation, the richest nation on earth.
Perhaps this was always inevitable. There is such misunderstanding of basic facts here that make it incredibly difficult for outsiders to understand how this kind of discussion is even possible. Be it climate change, flat earth, religious beliefs, governmental conspiracy, it all appears to originate from the same place.
The issue here seems to be a miscommunication of the economic benefits of renewable energy. It creates jobs, and lowers energy prices. However those jobs need educated people, and perhaps it is unskilled labourers who are not seeing the benefits.
The Paris accord was an entirely voluntary agreement, with no financial implication. It was about getting a head start on renewable energy whilst preventing climate change from getting any worse. Coal/Oil will dry up, whilst prices are pushed up in return. You need to transition from one to the other, and getting a head start offsets the economic disadvantage later. Pulling out of this agreement will remove American leadership, and lead other nations to produce those renewable sources of energy which the USA will be buying at an increased cost.
But arguing this appears to be pointless as reason and logic have been replaced by political ideals within the US. The world will carry on without America, but it is saddening how this can occur in a modern developed nation, the richest nation on earth.
gazillion post already on it, paying billions into the scam is simply not worth it.
I personally get all my climatology advice from millionaires, billionaires, Hollywood stars and $1 junk poly-sci books.
How could Leonardo DiCaprio and Cher not know better than me?
How could Leonardo DiCaprio and Cher not know better than me?
Also, the agreement is voluntary and there are no penalties for breaking it. It is nothing but feel good BS that no one is going to comply with, except for the European leftist nuts.
You mean that China will be the leading country in lying through their a-- and cooking their books on their efforts to combat climate change.
If that's the case, then what's the harm of staying in and enjoying that "feel good bs"?
Either it has teeth and would cost us tons of money, in which case he can't withdraw for 3 years; or it has no teeth, in which case staying in would be harmless. You can't have it both ways.
I can't believe people are even for this.
I guess there are people that believe the US should send taxpayer dollars to third world countries while shipping its jobs overseas due to the regulation it imposes unable to track those same taxpayer dollars to make sure they are being used for what they should without penalty to the countries that may use the money for something completely different than what was originally intended.
HOW IS THIS A GOOD IDEA!
I guess there are people that believe the US should send taxpayer dollars to third world countries while shipping its jobs overseas due to the regulation it imposes unable to track those same taxpayer dollars to make sure they are being used for what they should without penalty to the countries that may use the money for something completely different than what was originally intended.
HOW IS THIS A GOOD IDEA!
Fine. If you don't love what trump did then leave
You know, they only mean that one way. Hypocrites.
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He could have just ignored it without consequences, but I think he wanted to send a message. From Vox (a site probably in line with your views): "the Paris agreement is largely symbolic".
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Nope. I strongly encourage Mr. Cook to speak out on this at WWDC. For people who don't like that, simply switch brands. Easy. Except people will first need to muster up some courage that's most likely lacking.
He probably means both.
I'd like him to go to say Tuvalu and talk to the locals there about rising sea levels. Perhaps he might change his mind? I don't know but at least it would be a more informed decision.
As someone who has travelled the world these past 40 years, I have seen the changes in places even in 20 years. For example the retreat of the Glaciers on the East coast of Greenland. Seeing that sort of thing made my mind up years ago.
I do know one thing and that is that some deniers will never change their mind no matter what evidence is put in front of them.