Why should we pay billions to countries who have no accountability as to how they spend it, all while spending even more money at home to change our energy sources while the biggest polluters on the planet can actually pollute MORE? If you care about the environment you should be blasting the global powers for making such a weak agreement that does absolutely nothing other than redistribute wealth that we should be investing into our own crumbling infrastructure before more bridges start to collapse!
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Apple CEO Tim Cook: Trump's Decision to Withdraw From Paris Accord 'Was Wrong for Our Planet'
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The Green Fund is supposed to be $100 billion a year. It's not a tax, and it's not mandatory. And the entire industrialized world -- the ones making the climate change by creating industrial wealth -- are supposed to chip in. No fixed amount specified. We are contributing $3 billion. Yes, that's the most. A 3% tax on the Koch's wealth would cover it.
I don't care about a global climate issue - what I'm really concerned is the extreme amount of plastics and garbage. Nearly all the plastics and wastes are dumped and end up floating in the water. You have China being #1 and will scale up within the next decade. Look up "Great Pacific Garbage Patch" - let's all focus on REAL problems like these instead of weather problems because your weather forecasters can't even predict the weather correctly within 3 days let alone 30 years.
All of these companies have some sort of financial investment or else why would they all cry about this. The USA isn't rich either look at the trillions in debt and the money in this stupid Paris accord will just line the pockets of other nations while these idiots complaining can sleep at night knowing how they "saved" this planet.
China & India are the ones who need to deal with their own problems. The smog in China doesn't come from the USA.
edit: I need to add that as a president of one country, your job is to look after the citizens living in your country first. Their welfare and well being come first. You take care of your own FIRST. That's why the hell I'm proud to be a US Citizen; but as of late, I'm ashamed. You have Hollywood comedians decapitating the President of the United States and showing everyone how mocking this is somehow funny. ISIS groups are just laughing at the USA - their own people don't even respect their own president to the point of holding their president's beheaded head. Right now being a US Citizen is the laughing stock of the world - we can't even manage our own problems yet we want to stand up and be known as some kind of "leader". It's not Trump's fault - it's the fault of these liberal no common sense dumb assses.
Right now the USA is trillions in debt and you take out your wallet to do what??? This is exactly the same mentality of people who buy apple products - can't afford them but will finance them going in debt for the "prestige" of owning something material.
I'm digressing....
All of these companies have some sort of financial investment or else why would they all cry about this. The USA isn't rich either look at the trillions in debt and the money in this stupid Paris accord will just line the pockets of other nations while these idiots complaining can sleep at night knowing how they "saved" this planet.
China & India are the ones who need to deal with their own problems. The smog in China doesn't come from the USA.
edit: I need to add that as a president of one country, your job is to look after the citizens living in your country first. Their welfare and well being come first. You take care of your own FIRST. That's why the hell I'm proud to be a US Citizen; but as of late, I'm ashamed. You have Hollywood comedians decapitating the President of the United States and showing everyone how mocking this is somehow funny. ISIS groups are just laughing at the USA - their own people don't even respect their own president to the point of holding their president's beheaded head. Right now being a US Citizen is the laughing stock of the world - we can't even manage our own problems yet we want to stand up and be known as some kind of "leader". It's not Trump's fault - it's the fault of these liberal no common sense dumb assses.
Right now the USA is trillions in debt and you take out your wallet to do what??? This is exactly the same mentality of people who buy apple products - can't afford them but will finance them going in debt for the "prestige" of owning something material.
I'm digressing....
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I'm always amazed by the high number of right wing nutjobs here... you can deny climate change all you want, or think Trump is right for this, but if any of you have kids, they're going to inherit a ******** world because we weren't better. That's what's sad.
You're pulling this "$400 billion" figure out of your ass. And you're a perfect example of someone driven to anger by alt-right propaganda, of which President Bannon is a master.
Plastic is a real problem, but so is climate change. The US is in the top 3 polluters, might be 2nd behind China.
...and conservatives are totally fine with $800B being gutted from Medicaid....
Wow! Nuclear is the answer.
I am sure you have it all figured out:
1. What is the half-life of Uranium 238 isotope required for fission? [Hint: In billion-years.]
2. How long ago did the dinosaur extinction event took place? [Hint: In million-years (three orders of magnitude less)]
3. What is the depth of the lithosphere crust? [Hint: In 10s of miles]
4. How and Where are you going to store safely the concentration of spent Uranium ore, protected from unavoidable natural catastrophes as well as human-made events? [Hint: In miles underground]
And, you say that fissionable nuclear energy is the way forward? Please illuminate us all.
You misunderstand, this isn't an either-or proposition. To start, we can change zoning laws that give berth to suburbs instead of higher-density urban areas. We can stop subsidizing highway construction and instead use those funds to build out affordable and desirable public transportation, sidewalks, and bike paths that aren't in the middle of 4-lane traffic. We could raise taxes on gas incrementally so that people begin to find it more economical to carpool or use alternative transportation. The idea that "we can't change" things like the one person/car commute to work everyday is just nonsense. If you can't even support common sense proposals like that then let's just burn the planet up and die.
Nuclear power is fine, but it's not ideal and it's not the only possible solution. And building nuclear power plants is but one component of a sensible environmental sustainability strategy that can be put in place to ensure we don't destroy the planet for human beings.
because we borrowed money to stay in war and we are 20 trillion in debt...that's why.
We are richer than any other country and 20 Trillion in debt? What have you been smoking?
You want to help in this issue - it's an easy problem to fix. Have every publicly traded company on Wall Street dig in their own treasury and pull out tens of millions (based this on their capital net worth) - and every single one of these companies pull out the cash and pay to fix these climate issues. Simple as you can get.
What's not so simple is that these companies especially apple will never do that. It's all about the money pure and simple. Ain't one human being on this planet can't see past that if you destroy the planet it's all over. But you know the top 0.5% richest will use their wealth to ensure they survive any climate issues in the future.
Most of these companies including apple are all talk. Take out your wallet and do something. It's not like the USA has any money to deal with it. A bunch of hypocrites.
What's not so simple is that these companies especially apple will never do that. It's all about the money pure and simple. Ain't one human being on this planet can't see past that if you destroy the planet it's all over. But you know the top 0.5% richest will use their wealth to ensure they survive any climate issues in the future.
Most of these companies including apple are all talk. Take out your wallet and do something. It's not like the USA has any money to deal with it. A bunch of hypocrites.
We can afford the debt.
There's a difference between paying your debt and defaulting on your debt.
As big as Apple is, it would take more money than they have to fix climate change. The sole reason of Apple's treasure chest is to keep the company alive. Apple was 90 days from going bankrupt.
I'm not angry about anything. I'm a realist. I know the Paris agreement is a meaningless piece of wealth distribution disguised as a way to save the climate because "who could be against that?!"
I want to do away with all fossil fuels and I recognize and accept that the ONLY way to do that is to push nuclear in a big way. Pretending this Paris accord was going to save the world and acting like now we are dooming everyone on earth to an early death is ridiculous. Based on a lot of comments here and on Reddit there a more people being driven by anger over an issue they absolutely do not understand.
Not quite sure why North Korea is being mentioned so much but I'd ask people to read a history book on that one.
Essentially, after WW2 the continuation of the Chinese civil war led to the collapse of the ROC, which in turn created a power vacuum on the Korean Peninsula (Following Japanese surrender of held territory). This led to a surge in communism, with the Korean War being supported by PRC and Soviet backing. America, following WW2, was looking to increase their sphere of influence whilst stopping Soviet influence. So they (And the UN) backed South Korea and had a war. This was ended in stalemate, leading to the formation of North/South Koreas and a continuing American presence in the area.
Several decades on we are dealing with the aftermath of that initial failure. Nothing to do with Trump/Obama/China/America or anyone but the actions of the West 70 years ago.
Just saying, what happens today always comes back to haunt you or your children.
Also nuclear fission energy is seriously not an answer, ask the people of Chernobyl or Fukushima, or even 3 mile island in the US. Then there's the substantial issue of what to do with the waste (Burying for future generations). Fusion could be a viable solution but there is still a long way to go on that one.
Essentially, after WW2 the continuation of the Chinese civil war led to the collapse of the ROC, which in turn created a power vacuum on the Korean Peninsula (Following Japanese surrender of held territory). This led to a surge in communism, with the Korean War being supported by PRC and Soviet backing. America, following WW2, was looking to increase their sphere of influence whilst stopping Soviet influence. So they (And the UN) backed South Korea and had a war. This was ended in stalemate, leading to the formation of North/South Koreas and a continuing American presence in the area.
Several decades on we are dealing with the aftermath of that initial failure. Nothing to do with Trump/Obama/China/America or anyone but the actions of the West 70 years ago.
Just saying, what happens today always comes back to haunt you or your children.
Also nuclear fission energy is seriously not an answer, ask the people of Chernobyl or Fukushima, or even 3 mile island in the US. Then there's the substantial issue of what to do with the waste (Burying for future generations). Fusion could be a viable solution but there is still a long way to go on that one.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...o-what-exactly-is-in-the-paris-climate-accord
it's nothing more than a "pledge" conservation wise.
When Timmy became more interested in pushing a political agenda than running Apple.
So the dirty rotten secret of American environmental cleanup has been to outsource pollution to poorly regulated China and now the poster child of outsourcing manufacturing to China wants to point his sanctimonious finger at whatever convenient target of opportunity he can to divert attention from his own sins. I wish I could say I am surprised.
We'd have to attack climate change from all angles. Solar, Wind, Nuclear, life style changes, and transportation infrastructure changes.
What I don't understand is this coal/oil vs renewables line of thought. It's not an either/or sort of thing. The US can and does make use of varied energy infrastructure. We already do have a head start. But a transition isn't going to happen over night, and contrary to popular belief you do actually need sources like coal to make steel, or oil for heavy machinery and any number of consumer products. Coal and oil use will likely never be totally reduced to zero.
You're from the UK and I'll give you a pass for thinking there were no financial implications that would be imposed upon us Americans. True to form and like most global deals and agreements, we, the American taxpayers, would have shouldered the burden of having to pay billions to other nations. We're not made of money. To be frank, I'd like to see our tax money spent on our country, not yours or anyone else's.
Then apple needs to ShutTFU. Do you know what runs any country in the world? It's MONEY. Apple may not have the power of executive branch in govt but they have the money to influence. Of course they worry about the bottom line which is money that's why you see their profit margins increase YoY because that's what they do best so Tim Cook needs to just run his own business or pay for this garbage treaty he sees as so important. What's apple, inc in 30 years if there is no planet left?
I'm not trying to be offensive towards you in particular but I'm sick of having to take care of other countries while my own country can't even take care of me.
the day DiCaprio stops using a private jet to fly around the world giving speeches about climate change, is the day i will put solar panels on my roof. oh wait, i already have solar panels. now it's your turn DiCaprio...
Except that Apple makes some of the greenest products and most Apple products have the longest useful like in their respective categories. They've already been using green energy etc...but you all and the rest of the MacRumors conservatives complained made these changes. Now you want to make the claim that someone else is a hypocrite who won't put their money where their mouth is.
Secondly, the rich can't stay rich by simply surviving climate changes. The rich need people to sell products to in order to stay rich. They need people who will do the work of building the products etc.... Suddenly it's in their financial interest to clean up the climate because that is the most profitable thing to do.
You'd think the poor conservatives would like to save money on gas as a result of better fuel efficiency. You'd think poor conservatives would like to take one of those high paying green jobs. Nope they just sit around pointing fingers making excuses for why they refuse to become contributing members of society.