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Your statements are both contradictory and not how any of this works. [1] Lobbying by CEOs is an incredibly frequent behavior - hell, Trump's administration has even kept visitor logs to the White House private so the public would have no idea who's being granted visits.

I've snipped the rest of your post since it's just a long rant about the same issue.

[1] This has been noted by numerous commenters in this thread, but it's still mind-boggling at how many take offense at Tim making political statements. Not only is there a suggestion that Tim has someone devolved and became incapable of multitasking, but it's also as if the commenters complaining suddenly develop some sort of acute myopia and ignore the world outside of what happens at Apple or what Tim says.

You've snipped the bulk of what I've said and are not addressing the whole thing. It's not a rant, it's my opinions, just like you have your opinion. Unlike you however I will address ALL of what you are saying, not just cherry pick out the parts that fit my own agenda like you just did.

You seem to misunderstand the core issue here. Most of us are not annoyed that Tim Cook is being an active Democrat and saying things publically. We are annoyed that he is abusing his position as CEO to do so. There was no need to send a letter to all of the Apple employees about this. Tim Cook could easily have used television or radio or some other form of media to push his own views.

Tim Can multitask and that's ok. You just don't seem to understand that Tim should be lobbying as Tim Cook private citizen and not Tim Cook Apple CEO. As a private citizen he can talk to as many politicians as he wants to get the issue out in the open and have as many rallies as he wants. But trying to rally his own staff on work time about political issues is wrong. This kind of thing is illegal in Australia for very good reason. It should be illegal in the USA as well.
 
Just don't be a science denier. Most folks, even the most irrational "science is fake news" proponents like using their computers and smartphones; these devices didn't magically appear. Scientific research, advanced engineering, and financial investment made them happen. Human-Induced climate change is real and it poses a threat to mankind. We already have plenty of issues to deal with here on earth; why not take prudent steps to minimize man's impact instead of talking up the real fake news, resurrection of the coal economy.

As for the guy hoping Trump will eliminate constraints on auto manufacturers... dude, did you ever visit Los Angeles in the 60's? Auto emissions regulation placed by governments cleared the once brown and noxious skies. No "Great Wall" will keep the wind from blowing pollutants into your and everyone else's backyards.
Since you mentioned LA and California has one of the most strict environmental regulations. Yet they always suffer environmental calamities and that drought thing they had for years which they called global warming. Now they call it climate change because weather is been changing since the dawn of time. How about your friend Al Gore global flooding prediction backed by scientists, that's been long overdue. Besides your friends from climate change Paris convention emitted 300K tons of CO2 just to fly there. Hypocrisy much!
 
Can you calculate the amount I owe in the time I have been alive? Based on the cars I have driven, etc.? Otherwise, how do I pay my fair share?

Were you under the impression that pollution is an individual payment problem, instead of a societal one?
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It's run by liberals. Of course it failed.
Since Liberal are always smarter than conservatives, of course you would think your educational system failed.
 
Yea, I want America to be great again, like in these pictures pre-EPA:

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New Jersey, 1973


Yea, this looks like a good world to live in.

To be fair, I think New Jersey still looks the same.

(NY native)
 
Were you under the impression that pollution is an individual payment problem, instead of a societal one?
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Since Liberal are always smarter than conservatives, of course you would think your educational system failed.
Lmao. "We have to pass it to see what's in it ". " she's going to win by a landslide " ....
 
Were you under the impression that pollution is an individual payment problem, instead of a societal one?
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Since Liberal are always smarter than conservatives, of course you would think your educational system failed.
Please now. We're not going to go in and on about who is smarter. Because only in the US are liberals and conservatives on different sides of the political spectrum.

Outside the US, in places like the UK, Australia and others the liberal and the conservative are similar and on the same right side of the political spectrum. The UK conservative and the UK liberal are totally different tot he US liberal and the US conservative.
 
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Since you mentioned LA and California has one of the most strict environmental regulations. Yet they always suffer environmental calamities and that drought thing they had for years which they called global warming. Now they call it climate change because weather is been changing since the dawn of time. How about your friend Al Gore global flooding prediction backed by scientists, that's been long overdue. Besides your friends from climate change Paris convention emitted 300K tons of CO2 just to fly there. Hypocrisy much!
You are missing the big picture my friend. It's like saying "It is cold today, climate change is a hoax!"

Of course the climate has been changing since the dawn of time. It's the acceleration created by mankind that worries me. Geological time and humanity are separated by many orders of magnitude. Read scientific works on this subject. You will learn.

PS: I don't know Al. Do you?
 
Good news is it takes a long time to get out of the Paris Climate Agreement, and the final step is after the next election.

Countries can't withdraw until three years after the Paris Agreement went into effect.
The Paris Agreement entered into force on November 4, 2016; so this means the US would have to stay with it until November 2019. After that, the rules mandate a one-year notice period, which would mean a withdrawal in late 2020; after the next presidential election on November 3, 2020.

Today, the Paris Climate Agreement is polling at over 70% in favor with voters (indicating Republicans are split on it, with Democrats and Independents strongly in favor), and well over 50% in favor among the whole US population. This will be a campaign issue in 2020, and Trump has set himself and his party up to be on the wrong side of it.

The agreement has no binding legal ramifications. It's an "agreement" on a voluntary basis. Yes, the paperwork for withdrawing won't finalize until much later, but Mr. T is only concerned about a show of force now.

I think, some industries/companies will use/abuse the framework and others, hopefully most, will pursue an environmentally conscious policy regardless. Nothing wrong with Tim standing up for what's right and positioning Apple on the right side of history.

This really isn't about politics but about the survivability of the human race, only ignoramuses want to make it about who's in W.H. right now. The global leadership baton is in the process of being passed on. My vote's on a certain female physicist.
 
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