Nope. The truth of the human role is only debated because people ignorant of the science debate it.Being caused by man is very debatable.
Nope. The truth of the human role is only debated because people ignorant of the science debate it.Being caused by man is very debatable.
Good decision. Climate change is a political money grab. You can't predict the weather for my neighborhood but you want me to believe you can predict it for the entire planet. There is no evidence that man is causing climate change. The climate changes on its own. We didn't populate the earth until the end of the last ice age. What caused the change then?
Being caused by man is very debatable. Interestingly, because we don't feel that intense heat of the fireballs that are forming as a result of Global Warming, they changed the name to Climate Change because we don't feel the created and perceived warmth we were supposed to feel from Global Warming come as drastically as Al Gore said it was going to be by this time. I don't deny that man has had some effect on the globe, but I also believe nature takes it course and cycles.
What I don't understand is the mindset that the best way to do this is to continue the stifling regulations over here that make manufacturing at reasonable costs impossible, so we ship it overseas and continue having China do it unregulated while growing their economy and indirectly support them ruining our planet?
I think the other problem is the reporting these days gets delivered in extreme black and white versions. Trump is lifting some regulations, this gets reported as Trump has removed ALL regulations and we are back to dumping toxic sludge in the water and releasing all filters off the smokestacks and pushing toxins in the air. He puts an immigration ban on a few Countries, and this gets reported as all muslims throughout the world are no longer welcome. And because this is "legitimate news", this gets received as it must be true. Trump goes on his first international trip, he makes some great speeches. He meets the pope, what do we take out of this meeting? The photo of the moment Trump was smiling and the Pope was not. He goes to the NATO HQ and calls all countries out, this made him an oafish boar. Rules and expenses only seem to apply to us. And what did we get out of all these meetings? Trump chose not to listen to the Italian President in headphones as everyone was using.....he was listening on an earpiece.
Tell a lie often enough and the people will believe it.
Why do people say stuff like this?
If Tim is a citizen of the US. Then he has all rights to address his government. The constitution gives ALL citizens of the US the right to do so.
Hey Golden Joe, have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger effect? Because you are a fantastic example. It's obvious to me that you literally don't know the first thing about anthropogenic climate change or supercomputer models, but that apparently doesn't stop you from saying whatever you like.Because we learn about the dinosaurs' climate through material evidence, and the only "evidence" we have for man made climate change are computer models that don't work when you plug in known temperatures from the past? Because we know that CO2 does not historically correlate with global temperatures, especially if you go back to the ice age and beyond? Because so much "evidence" of mmcc is fake (hockey stick, NASA editing historical temp records, putting temp sensors near a volcano, etc. Why fake evidence if it is real). Because there is a HUGE financial incentive to support the politics of the people who give you your funding? Because Christina Figueres of the UN accidentally let slip that climate change is about transforming (controlling) the world's economic model? Because it was warmer in the 90's when there was less CO2? Because CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas, and anyone with half a brain knows that water vapor is both much more abundant and much more effective at trapping heat in our atmosphere? Because "oh, but if you're wrong the world will be destroyed" is a kindergarten-level BS scare tactic that no thinking adult should seriously entertain?
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WOW. Now you're just completely making stuff up aren't you? The United States is NOT the "cleanest" country in the world. Not by essentially any measure.Sure, everyone is on board with a clean environment. People tend to forget that the US is the cleanest industrialized nation in the world. We were the cleanest before the Paris agreement (it's not a binding treaty), and we'll be the cleanest afterwards. This is just another unjustified attack on Trump. Obama should have been attacked for circumventing our legislature in the first place.
Why did so much Americans vote for the disaster called trump?!?
I can't believe all the negative comments towards this, are people so stupid they don't realise the massive consequences of climate change, the whole fact that it will effect our very existence on this planet? Of course Tim should be concerned, we all should, even that cretin called Trump, the I e caps are melting fast, how is America going to be be great again if half of it is underwater, or being destroyed by more and more ever powerful storms, the man is an imbecile! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
It's over-exaggerated by the media and consumed by average people who don't really do any critical thinking. So to be honest, no, I'm not worried. And everyone who is ought to do a little bit of research.Hence, we should not care, right ?
Which is it, "poor and uneducated" or "rich 1% ers" (who would be folks educated enough to build and manage huge corporations and businesses), that the conservatives are? Cant have it both ways. Guess it depends on the narrative for the moment for you guys huh? Seems to me that if the conservatives were "poor and uneducated" they would advocate more for the liberal policies to get all the freebies.As usual, the poor and uneducated screwing us all. Thank you, Trump supporters.
THAT'S what a lot of the "knowledgeable" folks here don't seem to be able to comprehend. And China has until 2030 to do anything at all.What I don't understand is the mindset that the best way to do this is to continue the stifling regulations over here that make manufacturing at reasonable costs impossible, so we ship it overseas and continue having China do it unregulated while growing their economy and indirectly support them ruining our planet?
I am definitely not an expert on the Paris Accords, so my original post was really more philosophical about the need to deal with global environmental impacts via international agreements. If we can agree to that, then maybe it would be better to propose amendments to the Accords, rather than bail-out of them and the international environmental community all together. In this way, we could continue to be a leader of the free world rather than appear to be a superpower without an international role in making the planet better.
As it relates to China, I found this from the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions:
"China committed to the following actions by 2030:
- Peaking of carbon dioxide emissions around 2030 and making best efforts to peak early;
- Lowering carbon dioxide intensity (carbon dioxide emissions per unit of GDP) by 60 to 65 percent from the 2005 level;
- Increasing the share of non-fossil fuels in primary energy consumption to around 20 percent; and
- Increasing the forest stock volume by around 4.5 billion cubic meters from the 2005 level.1
Based on analysis by some of the world’s leading energy institutes, China’s INDC represents a significant undertaking beyond business-as-usual and will help slow the rise in global greenhouse gas emissions. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), International Energy Agency (IEA), Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and Tsinghua University, peaking carbon dioxide emissions around 2030 would reduce China’s emissions by at least 1.7 Gt or 14 percent from the most optimistic business-as-usual (BAU) scenario"
In order to hit these 2030 targets, China will have to do something soon to turn the tide and change the way they do business. The point is: Just because the goals are measured in the year 2030 doesn't mean action isn't required immediately to meet those goals. So, it might not be completely accurate to say "China doesn't have to do anything until 2030".
Unfairness about global warming? What? Also, capitalism is the greatest type political system. What is unfair about it? People compete. Products are therefore better. Do you think Apple would exist without capitalism, let alone any other company?
These comments are terrifying. I can't believe how infested this country is with idiot right wingers...
The elite you speak of, are in political power, and use their power to indoctrinate people into believing climate change is a hoax, all to enrich themselves, at the expense of people like you.
It's infested with idiots. FTFY.These comments are terrifying. I can't believe how infested this country is with idiot right wingers...
Yeah, total agree about the lying thing....such as: largest inauguration audience, 3 million illegal voters, wiretapping by former president, carrier group steaming to N Korea..... the list goes on and on! And, we are just in the first 4 month.
Democratic party at its weakest point since the 30's.
Sorry, nobody is listening to you.
And your point is?Trump did not win a majority. He won the electoral college. Take a look at the amount of activism his unpopular positions have created.
As for the comment about the Democratic Party, you probably are referencing the Gallup poll about the Democrats being referenced by Right wing publications. You actually have to read the entire article to understand what it actually said.
"So far Trump's unpopularity as president has done little to erode Americans' views of the GOP, perhaps because they were already quite negative."
"The decline in Democratic Party favorability is mostly a result of lower ratings from self-identified Democrats. In November, 83% of Democrats had a positive opinion of the Democratic Party; now, 77% do."
"Over time, Democratic Party and Republican Party favorability have averaged 50% and 44%, respectively. Republicans have yet to enjoy a sustained period of time in which their favorable ratings significantly exceed those for the Democratic Party."
Only idiots would refute the findings and serious warnings of scientists world wide. Then again, we're talking about the extreme right wing.
One other thing, renewable energy and climate change initiatives are actually good for the economy. It will not only preserve jobs, it will create them. Again, that's probably too much for you to understand.
That one is Peter Thiel. He is a Trump supported and spoke at the Republican convention in 2016. You don't seem to know anything.
They say it because Apple doesn't wow anyone more because the leadership there is more concerned about what people (a small minority) think about them i.e. diverse workforce, climate responsibility, wages, ect. That's great and all...but I don't come to MR to read about politics or social experiments, I want to see what the next device is that will make daily life tasks easier.
Trump did not win a majority. He won the electoral college. Take a look at the amount of activism his unpopular positions have created.
Correct - and they will sign it without us regardless. So China who is the main polluter does something about the problem while the US protects its jobs and does not foot the bill.
Sounds like a good compromise to me.
Largest inaugural audience....who cares, they also reported that he got rid of the MLK bust that a photographer was standing in front of. Who cares? Small stuff.
3 million illegal voters.... very plausible. Without voter ID and the constant fight against it, it's very plausible.
Wiretapping by the former president is unwrapping before your very eyes, you just don't know about it because your media is still too focused on trying to find the non existing evidence of Russian Collusion. Those wiretaps were what got Flynn in trouble, and it appears Obama is under his own investigation for tapping quite a few wires right now. By the way, how does a community organizer that becomes a senator followed shortly by becoming president afford an $8.1 million dollar home on a salary of $400k per year? But I digress...
Carrier steaming North Korea? What are they steaming, carpets?
The big lies are the constant reports from "sources" unchecked, not investigated, and they just pile it on over and over, but pay no attention. This giant story about Russian collusion. They build something up, work with it, nothing comes of it, knock it down and try something else. Nobody can say what the crime is, and the investigation has not produced anything. Next up, reports are serving up the newest and biggest, "Comey is going to testify about Trump's interference 3 weeks after he testified under oath that there was no interference. So they will continue to feed the story on how they see it playing out when the reality is, if Comey testifies that Trump interfered, A. He goes to jail for perjury, B. He adds to that punishment as it is illegal to NOT report someone trying to interfere with an investigation. Next up after that?
By the way, does anyone recall the live Microphone when Obama got caught colluding with the Russians? Why wasn't there an investigation there? Augh the blatantly obvious double standard.
Repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.
Some of the opinions expressed here make me despair for humanity's future.
Whether or not you think global warming is a myth – and boy, there really are some of you out there – I simply can't understand the aversion to leaving the world better than you found it. I'm genuinely unable to wrap my head around why there's so much opposition to renewable energy and these sorts of pacts.