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If it's in the roadmap, is it in the pipeline? Maps show roads, directions places........, substances flow through pipes and come out of the pipeline. Sometimes they are foul substances. I'm confused.
 
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And I'm just one guy. Imagine a company whose purchasing department has place $10,000+ orders to Apple. It's got to be getting harder every day.

I work at a college, and our department has a dozen Mac Pro trash cans. I actively dissuade against buying any Apple products at this point. Meanwhile, I was one of the ones who pushed to convert one of our PC-based faculty development labs to iMacs years ago.
 
There aren't any products to buy, thats the point of the complaints.
Then create your own. That would solve all of your problems. Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak did it, Linus Torvalds did it, Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie did it. There is no reason you can't do it as well.
 
Did he really just say the ~£2000 iMac is better than the ~£3000 Mac Pro? How about a price drop on the latter then Tim!?

Yup, Tim is starting the PR machine for the early 2017 iMac & iMac Pro, similar to his "stay tuned" note for MBP.

For many, the iMac Pro will be a great workhorse - especially if some R&D focus is spent on thermals.

"The desktop is very strategic for us. It’s unique compared to the notebook because you can pack a lot more performance in a desktop — the largest screens, the most memory and storage, a greater variety of I/O, and fastest performance. So there are many different reasons why desktops are really important, and in some cases critical, to people.

The current generation iMac is the best desktop we have ever made and its beautiful Retina 5K display is the best desktop display in the world."
-Tim Cook 12/19/2016

Read the above as:
Attention Apple store staff, please sell the current iMac w/ pride & confidence to holiday buyers, and get ready to be excited when we show off the new iMac (for) Pros next year.
 
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Something, something, MacOS, something... :)

But seriously... it's threads like these that make me glad I never got bitten by the Mac bug.

I've never owned a Mac... so maybe I'm missing out. Then again... I'd hate to be chained to ONE manufacturer who makes questionable decisions regarding the hardware they want us to buy.

And I'm just one guy. Imagine a company whose purchasing department has place $10,000+ orders to Apple. It's got to be getting harder every day.

Makes sense to me, Michael. Thanks!
 
Yup, Tim is starting up the PR machine for the early 2017 iMac & iMac Pro - similar to his "stay tuned" note for MBP

For many, the iMac Pro will be a great workhorse - especially if some R&D focus is spent on thermals.

"The desktop is very strategic for us. It’s unique compared to the notebook because you can pack a lot more performance in a desktop — the largest screens, the most memory and storage, a greater variety of I/O, and fastest performance. So there are many different reasons why desktops are really important, and in some cases critical, to people.

The current generation iMac is the best desktop we have ever made and its beautiful Retina 5K display is the best desktop display in the world."
-Tim Cook 12/19/2016

Funny how he says desktops "can pack a lot more performance inside"

And then they go and make them thinner with almost no airflow.

Wanna know what's not good for performance? Thermal-throttling! :D
 
I've been saying this for months now: if you think Apple is done making desktops, you're insane. The internal need for them alone would prevent this from ever happening. Until the day where everyone at Apple can get their work done on an iPad Pro arrives, the Mac ain't going anywhere. I think some form of AR will likely supplant the need for all screens before this ever happens.

If that were the case then why did Apple stop making servers? They have some insane needs for servers...
 
The fact that he's having to defend himself/explain the roadmap internally to his own employees shows how little faith they have that the desktop line will continue. I mean ****, if your own employees are having to ask, then you know it's bad. But no, Tim has pulled out the "we've got a great pipeline" on his employees that he's typically reserved for investors/customers.

Good luck Tim, I wish you'd get kicked out sooner rather than later but I'm diversifying and leaving the Apple ecosystem. It started with your ****** online services and now I'm left with only an iPhone and Macbook Pro. More than likely will switch to the Pixel 2, but will stay with the 2012 Macbook Pro a few more years.

As for those saying you build your workflow around an ecosystem, this is the exact reason you don't. With cloud services there is no excuse on why you can't be OS independent. I used to use iWork but I'm all MS Office now, I can use it on any OS whether desktop or mobile. If you're creative, Adobe is cross platform. The list goes on. The stranglehold of being platform dependent is no longer the case for the vast majority of users whether home or business.
 
You are too late Tim.
I have hesitantly switched to Windows PC and starting to really like it. Extremely powerful machine with the latest components available and didn't cost too much. Windows 10 is very solid.
I missed Mac OS, but I have invested too much time and money into a new Windows based workflow at this point and will never come back to the mac ecosystem. It is to uncertain and the worse possible scenario for professionals.

People: Do switch to Windows, you won't regret it! My machine has been running for months without malware (the new built-in Windows defender does a great job at eliminating potential threats). I found replacements for most apps, shortcuts and functionalities.
 
Hey Tim,
Learn the adage "Actions speak louder than words."
We've had 5 years of "we've got great products in the pipeline" and yet all we got was a Watch and overpriced iPad "Pro". Where is your AI Smart Speaker? Why doesn't iCloud work better? Why did you price gouge loyal customers starved for a laptop replacement?
Maybe you could rephrase your epic quote "we've got incredible emoji in the pipeline".
 
Sorry, Tim, but the delays are inexcusable. And they are probably caused by the difficulty of upgrading machines that are stuffed into ridiculously tight spaces and balanced on a thermal knife-edge. Prepare to duck if more of this is what’s up your pipeline.
 
Funny how he says desktops "can pack a lot more performance inside"

And then they go and make them thinner with almost no airflow.

Wanna know what's not good for performance? Thermal-throttling! :D

Well... I'm really happy with my 27" 5K iMac with 4 GHz i7 Skylake CPU and Radeon M395X GPU.

As a photographer it's superb for editing photos, especially with the gorgeous wide gamut hi-rez screen. Fast, thin, relatively cool (compared to my 2012 thicker iMac) and it doesn't throttle. Zero complaints.
 
The paragraph above could have been written by a consultant or maybe a Wall St. professional in order to justify a plan to cut costs, but it is a misunderstanding of the Apple brand.

What's the difference between Mac and Windows? Many people would (still) say a Mac is better for graphics professionals, whether true or not. People have believed that for many years, and it has provided tremendous brand value to Apple. I would argue there is a massive risk in alienating these professionals, even though I agree they are a niche.
I myself am a graphics professional doing very high end work for Fortune 100 companies. I don't say that to brag, but to illustrate that computers have outpaced the requirements of the users. I use an older MacBook Pro than the newest one. It has 16GB of RAM and an SSD. I've never waited on it. Video, 3D, and gaming are the only ones left who need beefier machines. Most of the graphics community is very well served by MacBook Pros and iMacs, already.
 
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Thanks for checking in Tim. Unfortunately for us, there are lots of people who would eagerly buy a non-gimped mac mini, or are still holding out hope for a actually powerful Mac Pro machines. You just sadly don't give a $%^&@ about us.

No one is writing apps for iOS, with an actual iOS device, and people aren't suckers enough to buy something they don't need - iMac with a screen, or a super expensive laptop, when a mini fits the bill perfectly.

Read my sig VVVVVVV it get more and more true, every day.
Not that many. Apple has the numbers. MacBook Pros and iMacs are the big sellers. You and your cohort don't justify mini and pro lines. There's not many of you.
 
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