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Apple CEO Tim Cook: ‘We Have Great Desktops in Our Roadmap'
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what is troublesome is that renewed focus on iPads was one of the reasons why the desktops have not been refreshed for over a year and those updates were not very impressive.
I have bought hundreds of thousands of dollars in the pro market area of Apple for the past 15 years. We are talking about hundred's of MacPro edit suites and a few hundred Macbook Pro editing systems around the world.
Apple has unfortunately it seems, to have become one of the most arrogant companies on the planet.
Our company is about to let go of Apple completely. We are looking at migrating to Adobe and Windows 10. It's such a shame though...
The first inkling I had about the downward spiral was just a couple of years before Apple released FCPX, they dumped their amazing hardware of X-Serves, X-RAID's etc...Most recently they seemed to have dumped the awesome Airport wireless ecosystem, Cinema Displays, Desktops and lets not forget the Mac Mini, expandable Mac Pro tower and the MagSafe!
It's all about Shareholders and Tim Cook making Apple a 'services' company that forces you into there iCloud eco system along with there consumer iPhone, Apple Watch and Apple TV eco systems. Speaking of services...how about the people on the planet that don't have internet speeds/plans like we have here in the US and South Korea for example. Unlimited? Most other countries have caps on data usage Apple.
Apple...one idea is to split up the Pro and Consumer markets into two separate camps within your new spaceship campus in Curpertino. Maybe, just maybe when you all move in and settle down, that you will come back down to earth and move forward gracefully as the best company on the planet that pro's and consumers will grow to love and trust, just like the old days of Steve Job's.
The point of Apple used to be about a brilliant ecosystem of it 'Just works' Not now - Cook, Ive - please wake up mates!
PS:Have you ever used that Photo's app? Replacement for Aperture? Are you kidding me? Oh, and the new Apple TV 4 remote...
Apple has unfortunately it seems, to have become one of the most arrogant companies on the planet.
Our company is about to let go of Apple completely. We are looking at migrating to Adobe and Windows 10. It's such a shame though...
The first inkling I had about the downward spiral was just a couple of years before Apple released FCPX, they dumped their amazing hardware of X-Serves, X-RAID's etc...Most recently they seemed to have dumped the awesome Airport wireless ecosystem, Cinema Displays, Desktops and lets not forget the Mac Mini, expandable Mac Pro tower and the MagSafe!
It's all about Shareholders and Tim Cook making Apple a 'services' company that forces you into there iCloud eco system along with there consumer iPhone, Apple Watch and Apple TV eco systems. Speaking of services...how about the people on the planet that don't have internet speeds/plans like we have here in the US and South Korea for example. Unlimited? Most other countries have caps on data usage Apple.
Apple...one idea is to split up the Pro and Consumer markets into two separate camps within your new spaceship campus in Curpertino. Maybe, just maybe when you all move in and settle down, that you will come back down to earth and move forward gracefully as the best company on the planet that pro's and consumers will grow to love and trust, just like the old days of Steve Job's.
The point of Apple used to be about a brilliant ecosystem of it 'Just works' Not now - Cook, Ive - please wake up mates!
PS:Have you ever used that Photo's app? Replacement for Aperture? Are you kidding me? Oh, and the new Apple TV 4 remote...
Well said, but so many will just say that you're a troll or whatever, and they don't seem to believe that some of us have been true Apple lovers for many years, and it's obvious that Apple is being run for profit instead of innovation. The people that call us trolls may not have been around long enough to know when Apple put customers ahead of investors. It's so blatant that Apple is not putting customers ahead anymore... magsafe is gone. One of the best inventions, and would benefit with any thiness. Gone. For the people that think we are trolls, tell me the benefit of not having something like magsafe.
It seems Apple as a company can only do one thing at a time. This sounds like a small startup company not being able to develop multiple products at the same time. Even smaller camera companies like Pentax, Nikon, Canon, Olympus or Fuji can deliver more products than the big cash throwing Apple company. What i see here: Apple is having management problems or problems of how their managers are working on projects.
After being Apple since 1984, I have owned a Power PC 6500, G3, a G5 Tower (that still works today) and now my 2012 Mac Mini. I believe there still needs to be a desktop in the mid $800 that surpasses the Mini, (which is, from my perspective, just a headless notebook.)
Apple needs to remember that they need the 'gateway' entry item to convince the masses they need to enter the ecosystem. I came in from a different direction, however, these are different times, based on the tech that is now coming out.
What in the world do you find encouraging about that statement? To me, it is just more Timmy babble like he has been spewing for several years now. Pipeline / Roadmap / bla bla bla
Does it make sense to you why people who have trusted Apple for so many years is sticking it to us (running Apple for profit instead of innovation)?
Did you get the new MBPr and jump for joy that magsafe is gone?
Did you jump for joy on the huge price hike of the new MBP when it's not spec'ed higher than the previous few years of models, but hard drive, and memory prices have significantly dropped?
There's many more reasons you're gonna see a lot of other frustrated people all around the world.
Darth Timmy has apparently fooled you.
A new iMac would be nice. Price point is important for me though. The jump they made with the MacBooks has me somewhat nervous. Part of the "issue" is that I'm not suing the machine as much as I did while in school so it's harder to justify dropping $2k on something you might not use daily.
At one time I believe that Apple's desktop Macs were the best in the industry. I know that MacOS/macOS/OSX is the best OS around, but it can only really be used effectively/legally on Apple hardware. In the last 5 years Apple's desktops have become a sad joke--the iMac became unnecessarily thin and the Mac Pro got even more expensive and simultaneously less expandable.
Desktop users by and large do not care how thin and light their machine is. We are not carrying it around with us from location to location; that's what a laptop is for. Desktop users are more interested in increased performance and upgrade-ability/replace-ability. Laptop components in a desktop machine are not optimal. And no, not everybody wants an integrated display, either.
I for one would be quite happy with a true desktop-class system from Apple -- with a desktop-class CPU (i7 6700 or 7700), modern and user-upgradeable graphics (GTX 1060 or 1070), a couple of 2.5" drive bays for SSDs plus a couple of 3.5" drive bays for mass storage, no optical drive, at least one spare PCI-e 3.0 slot for add-ins (I happen to use an eSATA drive dock and no Mac ships with an eSATA port), with no built-in display and with enough ventilation to be able to run it at its full rated speed for things like, oh I don't know, video editing and compression--you know, like some kind of pro user.
The argument that the Mac Pro has not been updated for 3 years because of lack of available chips from Intel is just pure bunk. In the Xeon line there have been Haswell, Broadwell and Skylake parts suitable for a Mac Pro. There have also been 6- and 8-core HEDT chips based on Haswell and Broadwell which would also serve nicely and cost a heck of a lot less than Xeons. There have also been a couple of generations of both AMD and Nvidia graphics chips released since 2013 which could have gone into a refreshed Mac Pro. It cannot be assumed that general lack of interest in the 2013 Mac Pro means that nobody wants a headless desktop Mac--it only means people don't want that particular headless desktop Mac. It's too expensive, too out-of-date and offers the buyer zero upgrade path.
Desktop users by and large do not care how thin and light their machine is. We are not carrying it around with us from location to location; that's what a laptop is for. Desktop users are more interested in increased performance and upgrade-ability/replace-ability. Laptop components in a desktop machine are not optimal. And no, not everybody wants an integrated display, either.
I for one would be quite happy with a true desktop-class system from Apple -- with a desktop-class CPU (i7 6700 or 7700), modern and user-upgradeable graphics (GTX 1060 or 1070), a couple of 2.5" drive bays for SSDs plus a couple of 3.5" drive bays for mass storage, no optical drive, at least one spare PCI-e 3.0 slot for add-ins (I happen to use an eSATA drive dock and no Mac ships with an eSATA port), with no built-in display and with enough ventilation to be able to run it at its full rated speed for things like, oh I don't know, video editing and compression--you know, like some kind of pro user.
The argument that the Mac Pro has not been updated for 3 years because of lack of available chips from Intel is just pure bunk. In the Xeon line there have been Haswell, Broadwell and Skylake parts suitable for a Mac Pro. There have also been 6- and 8-core HEDT chips based on Haswell and Broadwell which would also serve nicely and cost a heck of a lot less than Xeons. There have also been a couple of generations of both AMD and Nvidia graphics chips released since 2013 which could have gone into a refreshed Mac Pro. It cannot be assumed that general lack of interest in the 2013 Mac Pro means that nobody wants a headless desktop Mac--it only means people don't want that particular headless desktop Mac. It's too expensive, too out-of-date and offers the buyer zero upgrade path.
It's not just about having the most raw performance.
Look at the Surface Studio and the excitement around it.
It's not even a particularly powerful PC.
I think there's more honesty and substance in a Donald Trump campaign speech than in Cook's "Pipeline" platitudes.
apple does programming, they will be able to do apple work on imacs for the next 25 years
Well, I hope your right and I hope that they listen. I'm not very hopeful that they will however. Greed and arrogance will destroy Apple.
I'm convinced Tim is either incompetent, lazy or just doesn't give a damn and is milking Apple for all the cash he can get. First, they make a wireless rechargeable mouse that can't be used while it's being charged. Imagine what kind of fit Steve would have thrown if he'd seen that. Then, it's the questionable decision to take the headphone jack off the iPhone. That may be the future, but I'm not willing to deal with a tiny dongle I will probably lose and I'm a fan of my $350 Bose headphones and like to listen to music while charging my phone. I upgraded from a 6+ to a 6S+ to avoid that. It makes me wonder how many more there are like myself. The most recent evidence is the ridiculous MacBook Pro update. If anything, that POS laptop is a major downgrade and a slap in the face to everyone waiting for the machine to update their laptops. I'm still rocking a late 2011 that is running like a champ. I'll be upgrading to last year's model with the regular USB ports so I can plug my phone in using the cables that are everywhere and also work with the chargers that I plug into outlets. Sorry, but there's nothing pro about dongles and I'm NOT buying a laptop without MagSafe and with EVERY. DAMN. THING. SOLDERED. I'm sure Steve would have lost his $/!? over the new MBP as well. I've lost faith in Apple and I'm just happy to pick up the best of what they produced last year for a slightly discounted price. Hopefully it lasts long enough for someone to replace Tim. I like Tim, but he's seriously screwing up big time over there.
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Sounds like Darth Timmy is not just pissing off customers and the media, but also his employees.
That's what happens when you increase profit margin but reduce quality and functionality. Magsafe is gone... just gone... Really Timmy?... did that increase your profit margin? What other possible reason could there be to get rid of magsafe? Waiting for the reality distortion answer.
your a brand enthusiast; thats fine as far as it goes. many here need to to get stuff done and will choose between windows and macs based on power and economy. enjoy the bubble
Only an idiot would buy a Dell. They are utter garbage. I've had a few for work and their "business class" machines are garbage.
At least Microsoft takes their pro customers seriously...
Unfortunately is call "running a business for profit". The company I work for use to be an innovator, then GE bought us for profit, ran us dry, and then sold us off to the high bidder. It's standard business practice to run a business either for profit (make investors happy) or for investment (make customers happy). SJ ran it for investment both times he was CEO. The Pepsi CEO in the 90s and now Darth Timmy run it for profit.
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Without airing of grievances, how will things get better? If you hide the frustration, the root cause of the frustration won't get fixed.
He means great desktops like the new MBP is a great pro laptop.
Or like the 2014 mini is better than the 2012 mini. Or the trashcan is better than the MP tower.
In other words, Timmy's definition of "great" is "total crap with high margins."
Or like the 2014 mini is better than the 2012 mini. Or the trashcan is better than the MP tower.
In other words, Timmy's definition of "great" is "total crap with high margins."