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Apple CEO Tim Cook: ‘We Have Great Desktops in Our Roadmap'
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Of course the Mac Mini will be updated! The 2017 Mac Mini will be refreshed with a bright new Rose Gold chassis!
Or Jet Black.
Too little too late at the moment. Windows is now a competent alternative to MacOS and the desktop user has been neglected for too long. I personally have little desire for a closed system like an iMac on my desk, equally I cannot possibly justify the expense of a Mac Pro. A Windows PC tower which I can (and do) incrementally upgrade as time goes sits next to my desk with a nice IPS screen. The screen is not as glorious as my wife's 5K iMac but it is certainly a more functional package.
Now as I work at my desk on a windows PC and the most recent MacBook Pro lineup has been lacklustre a Surface book looks all the more attractive. After that it will be the iPhone and the Apple Watch which will not be replaced by products of their ilk.
For me the whole ecosystem looks a bit sad actually. The lack of a competent desktop mac which mere mortals can afford, gimmicky touch bar and thinness rather than a superior notebook and fairly ho-hum updates to the iPhone along with expensive cloud storage make me yearn for the days when a Mac was something special.
Now as I work at my desk on a windows PC and the most recent MacBook Pro lineup has been lacklustre a Surface book looks all the more attractive. After that it will be the iPhone and the Apple Watch which will not be replaced by products of their ilk.
For me the whole ecosystem looks a bit sad actually. The lack of a competent desktop mac which mere mortals can afford, gimmicky touch bar and thinness rather than a superior notebook and fairly ho-hum updates to the iPhone along with expensive cloud storage make me yearn for the days when a Mac was something special.
Jobs was a man who was convinced his ideas could be sold for a lot of money and people would love them. The Pepsi man was just another corporate business man with little passion for the products he sold. But both did it for profit, except SJ thought he could rule the computer world and turned up mortal like the rest of us.
Go back and check the prices of SJ ideas, they were never in the Dell market levels.
I'd love to hear what makes the Surface Book such a worthy replacement to the new MBPs considering they have the same processors, slower SSDs, same RAM maximums and higher price points.
That ecosystem you find sad, I find incredibly useful for keeping my life in order. Managing work files, personal things, my newborn son's photos and videos - all done through Apple products efficiently and effortlessly. My iMac handles anything and everything I throw at it. I don't care a newer model was released right after I got it. It doesn't somehow lessen the capability of my machine which will last plenty long enough without me pouring more money into it.
Plenty of mortals seem to be able to afford Macs just fine. Perhaps its the constant replacement of windows machines and upgrades and money poured into software to get even the most basic functionality of out a windows machine that mortals have trouble affording. At least that's what I see day in and day out in my profession as I continue to sell Macs to exasperated former Windows users.
Take a look at my post #266 up above regarding the Surface Studio. There are things I like and dislike about it.
It's a niche product ideal for graphic artists. Not necessarily for many photographers. If I had a retouching business it would be interesting.
I don't see Apple making a computer like this, although it's kind of neat - if you're drawing or retouching day in and day out.
Def not for me, would be too unwieldy a lot of the time.
That Surface Studio looks a lot like its design was influenced by the iMac.
But the key to any productive machine isn't its beauty it's the software. Does Windows have the innovative software to make people go through the huge learning curve of switching platforms?
The answer is normally no, because like looks many things are only skin deep.
But the key to any productive machine isn't its beauty it's the software. Does Windows have the innovative software to make people go through the huge learning curve of switching platforms?
The answer is normally no, because like looks many things are only skin deep.
I used to think panels Apple put in their ACD and iMac lineups were tip-top...
Until I just hocked my old 24" ACD and put the proceeds toward an entry-level Pro monitor from NEC and I'm stunned at what I'm seeing right now. I don't really have any vision problems ATM, but it was like night and day difference in terms of clarity. Everything is so crisp and clear on this thing. Text is brilliant and a freaking joy to read. And the color is just amazing. My only regret is not purchasing this monitor sooner, and I'm just a developer.
I say this comparing it to the built-in 13" retina on my late 2013 rMPB, the 24" ACD I recently divested myself of, and the 27" iMacs (non-retina) I used to use at work.
It sounds like you do a lot of multimedia stuff, and I bet you'd love this monitor (or it's 4k / 4k 10-bit siblings) over whatever Apple is offering. Obviously you don't want to chuck your entire iMac, but the next time you're looking for a tip-top monitor, just know that what Apple uses doesn't seem to be the best performing (at least from my experience) and that you can find some really, REALLY great 3rd party monitors for your rig.
12/10 A++++++ WOULD BUY AGAIN!!!
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Aye - I purchased mine right before the 5k became the norm across the line, but no worries. That bad boy has a super fast SSD, 32GB of RAM and a quad core I7. It'll be a great machine for my son to use in through primary schooling in a few years. And it handles everything I do effortlessly.
Yeah, totally forgot about the 5400 goodnes they've been dishing out since 2000...Takes courage, I guess
Apple CEO Tim Cook statement is great for any dedicated employee works in the organization. I'm very sure that organizations like Apple mainly focus on two factors 1) Employee motivation, 2) customer satisfaction.
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Being able to replace the iPad and a Macbook at the same time puts the price point into relation. Apart from that, a fully spec'ed Surface Book (i7, 16gb or RAM and 1tb SSD) costs about 500$ less here than the mid-range 15" TB MBP or about 200$ more for the 13" model, which does not have a dedicated GPU. So yeah, the Surface Book is better value - and comes with a fantastic touch screen (and yes, that's useful, even though Tim will argue against it), standard ports and a pen, which is also very useful, especially since Windows 10 has tools built-in that make great use of it (OneDrive, the Inking Tool etc.). I own the 15" TB Macbook and it's a great machine - however, the price is so insanely high that I wasn't able to justify the purchase of a decently spec'ed version.
I am sorry. I do not believe a word Tim Cook says. Four years ago Tim and the bunch made a similar boast and the only thing we got was the current Mac Pro which has not be refreshed in 3 years and the Apple Watch. Now we get this Macbook Pro which is a gimmick (touch bar) with less components (4 USB-C/TB3 ports) for more money. Whatever Apple has up their sleeves will come by the end of year 2017 and just cost more. The desktop??? will have it's customary Apple created shipping delays to show everyone how much of a demand there is. Ha, Ha. The company moves in one speed... very slow. It will be another wasted year waiting for Apple to do what it claimed it was going to do. Actually Apple hopes you forgot their boasts. Same old routine. I am tired of it. Good Bye Apple and all your gamesmanship.
Until sales grind to a halt, which is already happening. Engendering the ill-will of customers and squeezing them for profit may work in the short run, but in the long run, it can be ruinous.
Actually people have very valid reasons for their complaints against Apple as of late. Case in point https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12593867
Apple has ignored the pro community ever since Cook became CEO. Cook cares more about social causes and coasting on Job's legacy than he does about the Mac line & their now-former pro customers.
Here's an idea...yes, make the iMac thinner. Make it more powerful with the latest hardware. Make the computer bezel-less, with no aluminum piece below. Make it tilt and swivel in all directions. Keep the great 5k display...but make the front of the iMac 100% display like the thunderbolt display, but without a thick black bezel. And one more thing...don't make it all USB-3 / Thunderbolt ports. Keep some of the legacy ports because regular USB and Thunderbolt are still relevant. And one more thing...ditch the blocky aluminum look and make the chassis from carbon-fiber. AND Keep the Mac boot chime! 
I hadn't used a windows machine from 2003-2016. When my old MBP became too slow, I purchased a cheap $300 Lenovo until Kaby Lake / Cannonlake MBs were released.
I was very impressed with how far Windows had come. No longer is Apple's software worth the price of perpetually [very] outdated hardware.
While the Apple Watch, iPhone, iPad and Apple TV are still the best in its respective product category, Apple has fallen way behind with its PCs to focus on those other products along with it's services. Sad.
As a shareholder I really hope they're able to get all those people who have Apple Watches, iPhones, iPads and Apple TVs to purchase Macs... They have huge room for growth.
I was very impressed with how far Windows had come. No longer is Apple's software worth the price of perpetually [very] outdated hardware.
While the Apple Watch, iPhone, iPad and Apple TV are still the best in its respective product category, Apple has fallen way behind with its PCs to focus on those other products along with it's services. Sad.
As a shareholder I really hope they're able to get all those people who have Apple Watches, iPhones, iPads and Apple TVs to purchase Macs... They have huge room for growth.
'zero actual reason'. Wow.
There's People troubled by the actual lack of updates, and disappointing updates, or you - who defend them, because of the fantasy lineup of great stuff you think they're about to release?
Who's more out of touch?
I've compared the prices - must be a conversion thing because here the Surface Pro is always more expensive.
And sure, if you take the cost of my iPad into account, the Apple pair is more expensive. But the Surface Book is a dreadful tablet compared to the iPad Pro. No way around it. It really doesn't function as a tablet for more than showing off various things for a short time.
I've come to terms with the fact that there are folks out there who think a touch screen on a laptop is useful. But I will never understand why and hope Apple doesn't compromise macOS just to merge it with iOS or make it touch-friendly. My trackpad does everything I would do on a touchscreen.
I have a 1TB, 2.6GHz i7 with 16GB RAM. $2999. I believe the identical specs for a Surface Book put it at $3299. And the MBP's SSD is FAR faster. And I have a larger display. I also have software built in for document, spreadsheet, keynote creation, photo, video and music creation/editing and mail/contacts/calendar management.
How much does office365 cost? How much does a decent photo editing program cost? Video editing? Music? Add those prices all in as well.
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I'm out of touch because I KNOW that there are things happening at Apple that I'm not privy to? People "troubled" are so because they choose to be. The VAST majority complaining here have no reason to be troubled.
That's saying nothing about what I think Apple may or may not release. I have no clue and don't care to even guess. I know my iMac is a beast. And I'm enjoying my MacBook Pro so far after not having used a 15" laptop in some time due to the size. And I know both machines will last me a good long while.
Sanctification? They want to make us holy?!?!
Wikipedia: Sanctification is the act or process of acquiring sanctity, of being made or becoming holy
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Here's what I think. You bought that new macbook pro as you say, and you came on here hoping to get some confirmation bias that it was a good purchase, having spent an un-holy sum for that throttled piece of art. Instead, most of us find it majorly lacking, and you - having spent that much money on the damn thing - are frustrated with us for not making you feel better about your purchase.
So while you keep trying to dismiss everyone's complaints, it just makes you look more desperate.
The number of people affected by the linked article amounts to the very small percentage I made mention of earlier.
And at the very beginning of the post, the annual upgrade cycle is presented as a major problem. Which is exactly my point.
You're telling me that even a 2013 Mac Pro can't last more than 3 years for the type of work you do? If that's the case, you are in a VERY select group that shouldn't be determining how the rest of us receive hardware and software updates.
There just seems to be such a disconnect from some here versus the vast majority of users around the globe. Consider that a MAJOR portion of Windows users/machines are ages old machines on Windows 7 because corporations move at a snail's pace when it comes to upgrades. Yet somehow Windows is the answer?
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Actually, I came to MacRumors looking for updates on AirPods inventory and happened across an article in which Cook talks about the desktop. Being in the industry, I'm interested and decide (unadvisedly since I know what I'll find) to dive into the comments.
I don't need you or anyone else to justify my purchases. But nice try.
Lets see, battery life, detachable screen, touch screen and pen.
iCloud is no doubt easy, but the storage offered for the price is quite paltry compared to the alternatives.
As for constant replacement my desktop has sat next to my desk for 4.5 years now. It has a new graphics card and an SSD drive and I changed the case (for purely aesthetic reasons), but everything else is as the same (even the original hard drive is still there as additional storage). I also upgraded the monitor 12 months back. If I wanted to do any of those things with an iMac I would have to buy a whole new computer. I anticipate that it will be next to my desk for some time to come.
I pay two subscriptions for the 'basic functionality' software (Office 365 and Adobe Lightroom/Photoshop). If I couldn't afford that then I certainly couldn't afford a Mac.
Anyway, I am glad that you get what you want out of your Mac, however to my mind nothing in the Mac field has made me want to open my wallet, and ultimately for Apple to continue to justify the Mac they need people to do just that.
yes Tim and Ive, the iMac will have one USB-C port and will be even thinner
we are all ready for this, like you crippled the mac pro, mac mini and the mac book "pro"
what an hippocrate "apple doesn't do things for return on investment"
Tim all you care is $$$$$ and your polical agenda, nothing else
we are all ready for this, like you crippled the mac pro, mac mini and the mac book "pro"
what an hippocrate "apple doesn't do things for return on investment"
Tim all you care is $$$$$ and your polical agenda, nothing else
Guess what, you're not convincing anyone on the other side. HOWEVER, many of us do still believe (hope may be a better word) that if we voice our complaints, there is a chance they will be heard by some influencers who can affect some change at apple - it's our best shot, maybe our only shot.
And yea, I know you're going to come back with 'no one is reading posts at macrumors', bla bla bla. That may be true, but consider that this is the pre-eminnent site for mac fans, and as I listen regularly to the Accidental Tech Podcast with John Siracusa and friends, I think there are in fact plenty of people from apple who glance at this site and listen to the tech press in general.
And after all why is Tim Cook bothering to make this statement in the first place if he weren't trying to quell what he felt like was a growing dissatisfaction with the mac? Between apple fans like us and the tech press at large, he's clearly getting the message. Whether he really gets it, and makes mac that people want, is the big question.
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