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Apple CEO Tim Cook: ‘We Have Great Desktops in Our Roadmap'
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Yeah true...but we need to something to get our mind off this with happier articles. In all honesty, Tim is actually trolling us with bs comment. Editors posting something positive and avoid posting sad. Avoiding posting sad news might help but that would be pretentious if mr did so. Sigh....
Nothing wrong with being an outlier but the touch bar has been cooly received, even by brand enthusiasts.
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If it is a disappointment I won't be buying it... simple as that.
Tim's comment was intended( but not clear it succeeded ) to allay concerns without revealing anything substantive because saying "desktop" obviously ducks the issue( with the Mac Pro and Mini ). Net result: didn't allay any concerns because most think he is referring to the iMacs and everyone assumes they will be revved early next year( so no big deal ), so his pronouncement is no news at all except that( and this is just a guess, FWIW ) Apple might now recognize their planning impacts Mac sales.
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I have a late 2015 imac 5k maxed out and really like it. I do heave photography and final cut editing on it. He is right about the screen. OMG! I hate looking at anything else. My only complaint is that I wished they used more space inside to give it a bigger heatsink. With all that aluminum and surface area this thing should be whisper quiet at load or at least barely audible.
What does that mean? It means you have a preference for MacOS. The functionality in windows 10 and macos is so similar at this point, it really comes down to preference. I use both and prefer windows--in daily use it seems far more elegant. But I see macos as essentially equivalant
Say something like this, and then launch a GTX 1070 iMac with a Kaby Lake i7 in two months. That's the right thing to do, Tim. Make us proud.
Not entirely unjustified complaints... don't you think people have some legitimate beefs with the iMac team ?
Do the iMacs already have soldered in memory and non replaceable hard drives? Hmmm.
I hope when he says desktops he is including the Mac Mini.
I hope when he says desktops he is including the Mac Mini.
I'd like to see a new, more powerful Mini with desktop CPU options and replaceable parts. Then a newer and more expandable Mac Pro.
Perhaps even ditch the iMac altogether and make a really nice Cinema Display instead. Make the Mini mountable to the CD.
No reason to have the internals inside the display these days. Causes thermal throttling, causes you to have to replace everything when you might just need a smaller upgrade/fix.
Perhaps even ditch the iMac altogether and make a really nice Cinema Display instead. Make the Mini mountable to the CD.
No reason to have the internals inside the display these days. Causes thermal throttling, causes you to have to replace everything when you might just need a smaller upgrade/fix.
It's the fact the price has remained the same for systems that are 1+ years (some 3 years) old. No price adjustments or improvements at all. That is what is absurd. When they do come out with an update, they make it a new line, charge more, and still continue to sell the old model (1+ year) for the same.
Apologies. I re-read my comment and it's intent was unclear. I was simply listing examples of things related to the topic of macs. What you'd like to see was just an example, same as what you think of the state of mac hardware. Things unrelated to complaining about complaining.
I'm pretty sure no one thinks internet forums are a place where companies answer feature requests. They're typically used for the exchange of ideas. Not all of the ideas will be agreeable to all participants.
Here's the thing though. Whining about whining is just as annoying as the original whine. What's worse than the whining? The pre-whining like: Apple haters in 3, 2,... in before the haters start... this thread is going to be filled with negative... and so on. It seems like some of the fan-complainers think their comments are somehow okay since they're complaining about people complaining about Apple. It doesn't work like that. Both groups are just as annoying and equally drag the level of discourse down to the lowest levels of Dante's Hell. Both groups are an ouroboros of complaint/counter complaint. Forever eating it's own tail in an infinite loop.
Cook has been hanging out with President-Elect Cheeto a bit too much, seriously, his quote sounds exactly like a Trumpism:
"Some folks in the media have raised the question about whether we're committed to desktops," Cook wrote. "If there's any doubt about that with our teams, let me be very clear: we have great desktops in our roadmap. Nobody should worry about that."
"Some folks in the media have raised the question about whether we're committed to desktops," Cook wrote. "If there's any doubt about that with our teams, let me be very clear: we have great desktops in our roadmap. Nobody should worry about that."
I don't think Tim conveyed just how important Macs are for Apple. Heck, without them, iOS is dead. The Mac is the heart of Apple. Hopefully Apple comes to their senses and renews their focus.
What would those beefs be?
My 5K iMac has the latest i7 4 GHz Skylake CPU, a super fast 1TB SSD, 24 GB of RAM, a gorgeous wide gamut hi-rez display, Bluetooth 4.2, is quiet, cool, not throttled, and is a joy to use. Day in and day out, totally reliable. Being a photographer it's especially great for processing photos.
I have zero complaints.
As suitable Kaby Lake processors are becoming available I imagine the next version of the iMac which will soon be released will have a small bump in speed, with faster TB 3/USB C 3.1 ports, Bluetooth 5.0, and a still faster SSD.
So what exactly is the problem?
Sure Tim. Had to scrap your plans to replace the iMac line with a gigantic neon-emoji with USB-C ports after Microsoft introduced the Surface Studio?
That's an asinine comment considering there are likely lots of actions taking place that the whining MacRumors community isn't privy to.
How often do you people update your desktops? I mean really? I think the mobile age has us all clamoring for crazy updates far more often that necessary. Personally I bought my 27" 5k with the intention of having it at least 8 years. SSD, plenty of RAM, dedicated graphics. What more am I going to get out of a 7th generation processor? Desktops and laptops are mature products. They don't progress anywhere near as rapidly as smartphones and tablets (and even those are plateauing).
These forums have really degraded over the couple of years. I haven't been around here much, but the few times I have its been nothing but whining and complaining often with zero ACTUAL reason.
We sent men to the moon with computers the size of rooms with a fraction of the power you have in that 2 year old iPhone 6. And somehow the current iMacs aren't enough for ya'll to check Facebook on....unreal.
Well said. I use a 2010 Mac Pro for various video, audio and photo projects. I had previously worked on PC's but moved to Macs for the quality build, computing power, and that lovely big case that offers almost endless expandability.
I do believe the professional line is being neglected for the lure of commercial consumer profit. Their one stab at improving the Mac Pro resulted in the trashcan model and what a joke.
I would love to see Apple split their product lines into a consumer line and a TRUE pro line. But I am afraid the pro line will not generate enough revenue to keep the shareholders happy.
Exactly. That type of machine is likely to suit you well for quite some time to come. So why do we need annual updates to products that last 8 years? If you need a computer, buy one. The current iMacs are every bit the powerhouse 99.9% of people need.
For the 0.1% who REALLY need to step it up, continue to complain. But I know the folks doing the griping here don't really fall in that category.
I largely agree with you and I have a similarly spec'ed iMac as you do. But if you need to ask what the problem is, the answer is this:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio/overview
Creative professionals (including photographers like ourselves) will start flocking to this once it's globally available in a month or two.
People aren't burning for an upgrade in this segment as they had been burning for a Macbook Pro update, but the competition has dramatically upped its game - and considering that my iMac cost over 3000$, the Surface Studio is about in the same price range. And you really get a crapload of innovation, speed and truly useful features (for a creative pro that is) with it. Anyone I've talked to who has one says it's an absolute eye-opener.
The question is how Apple goes about this at this point: if they raise the prices for the iMac by 500$ as they did with the Macbook Pro, the average consumer won't be able to buy this anymore. The creative pro will likely lean towards Microsoft's offering - so who will buy the iMac?
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Well said. Totally agree. Sounds like we have the same 5K iMac - an excellent computer.
That is scarily accurate to how I felt when using Apple Maps on a recent trip. It managed to take me the long way around and couldn't estimate the time properly either.