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Very thoughtfully put! Shame more political discourse can't be as civilized as it is on a truck enthusiast website.
It confuses me how Trump is constantly referred to as some kind of emerging threat to Democracy, when his re-election seems like a textbook example of Democracy in action. People were generally very unhappy with the results of the Biden/Harris administration, and that was decisively reflected in the election. People were well aware of what Trump stands for and the majority of people agreed.

How much more democratic can you get?

Neither party is particularly beholden to average constituents anymore, which is another discussion.
 
Tim Cook is not MAGA. He is gay. MAGA is not gay-friendly.
It’s mostly the Christian-right faction that really cares. I don’t agree with Trump on many things, but I feel like it’s disingenuous to act like he’s this raving homophobe.

Many of his supporters are not… the nicest people, but that’s supporters vs. the actual person.
 
People still outraged over Tim's 1 mil donation which is really a gesture more than anything that can be put to use at scale, but have no issue, in fact non whatsoever, with Soros spending hundreds of millions perhaps even billions to influence elections and local politics because it perfectly aligns with lefty doctrine.

Brilliant.

...And let's leave out the tiresome identity politics canned rebuttal out of it that carries no weight. That it's a dog whistle to anti semitism when that has nothing to do with anything and no (valid) criticisms of him and his activities have anything to do with his heritage. Especially if you learn anything about the man and come to find that he hates Israel, doesn't think they have a right to sovereignty, and in fact looted from Jewish people before they were being sent off to concentration camps at a very early age and looks back on it fondly in 60 Minutes interview *as an old man adult* saying it was 'no problem, no problem at all' and 'happy making times' and 'if he didn't do it someone else would' so he has no moral stake in his actions and it is the period that 'defined him.' It makes even less sense with all that context in mind.


Go ahead and call Bloomberg anti-semitic if it makes you feel better.

How can you write paragraphs on George Soros and act like Elon Musk didn’t just buy the presidency?
 
It’s mostly the Christian-right faction that really cares. I don’t agree with Trump on many things, but I feel like it’s disingenuous to act like he’s this raving homophobe.

Many of his supporters are not… the nicest people, but that’s supporters vs. the actual person.
As a Floridian, I take offense to this characterization. Ron DeSantis and MAGA have banned discussion of any non-straight lifestyle in schools, and put drag shows in public parks behind closed doors “to protect the children”.

I’m not sure Tim Cook would be allowed to discuss his sexuality at all in a Florida school.
 
This response is in such bad faith...Trump won damn near every swing state
The swing state designation is meaningless when arguing about overall margin of victory. Harris got more overall electoral votes in states that weren’t considered swing states. Trump had to get most of the “swing state” electoral votes to win at all.
and even won the Popular vote lol
He won the popular vote by a smaller margin than Hillary or Biden.
I’m arguing against the notion that it was a “landslide,” I’m not claiming that Trump didn’t win… I don’t live in fantasy land like the large proportion of Trump supporters who said he won in 2020.

Edit: Not only that, he got less than 50% of the popular vote in 2024. If that qualifies as a “landslide” it’s hard to know what you wouldn’t consider a landslide, unless you determine that by whether they have an R or D by their name.
 
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Speaking as someone from the UK, it is somewhat sickening to see all these supposed ‘principled’ billionaire CEO’s capitulating at the feet of a convict and wannabe dictator. I guess the dollar is all potential for retribution from the orange toddler is all they see.
 
They r all showing their true asses now.

Don’t even get me started on these „donations“, I mean bribe money. What you could do with all that money instead! Sickening.

OT: this thread is great to weed out users to put on the ignore list.
 
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Apple SJW-CEO Tim Cook is a gigantic hypocrite for attending the inauguration of a president whose views oppose many of the political stances Cook has publicly taken while virtue signaling.
 
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I think this is less about Trump and more about America. No offence folks over there but when you have people lining up to pay favours to an incoming politician, regardless of who they are, either by presence, support or by hard cash, you have a serious problem with ethics in your society full stop.

The constitution supposedly separates church and state but somehow managed to forget business along the way. When you buy favour, you end up with an oligarchy.

I haven't met anyone, including Americans, here in Europe in the last few years that has a shred of respect left for America. Not because of the wars and geopolitical interventions, but the general population is in majority DUI all the time when making critical decisions. Now thats not all of you, but a lot of you.

I'm in the UK so this is to some degree hypocritical, and I was quite involved in the mess myself a number of years ago, but even we have a moral high ground at the moment.
 
I wish Trump had not accepted such donations. We don’t want the incoming administration to be encumbered by perceived obligations to such donors.

Maybe no one would consider $1M enough to be able to expect favors.
Too late. He took crap tons of cash from Isreali-zionist Mariam Adelson and fart-huffer Musk to fund his campaign. Now we're stuck with these bozos. Can't forget mister saved-by-the-bell-Vivek, the failed drug hype peddler either.
 
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