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I find it funny as hell at how all these big tech giant CEOs like Zuckerberg and Cook once hated Trump along with 99% of other tech giant CEOs. But now they are lining up to personally go visit Trump at his house in Florida so they can be buddy buddy with him ever since he won the election by a landslide.

The irony here.......
I think they're all desperate. The consumer is tapped out. Grads can't find jobs. Hiring has slowed. Layoffs after layoffs. Everyday groceries have barely stabilized. Housing prices are astronomical. Constant money printing. They need someone to come in and juice the economy to keep consumers buying, and they need tariff favors.

These Tech CEOs are looking off the edge of the cliff.
 
Should someone who looted from Jewish people before they were sent to concentration camps, and later boasted how proud he is to have done it as an old adult, and also hasn't created any products or services but yet has an entire organization designed to 'opening society' in vague terms while actually contributing to getting hellacious DA's elected/installed who repeatedly free violent criminals back into the public across the nation to cause further harm to innocent people, be allowed to intricately influence our elections with his vast wealth?

Does that seem reasonable to you?

Does it seem like he and his counterparts in his organization are on the good side of the moral compass, just if you had to take a wild guess?


The question is where is the outrage from people who are still pissed at Tim for donating a million to a frigging inauguration - which we can all concede doesn't really move the needle at all - when Soros has influenced much more heavily for elections? It simply isn't there for the reason that they don't actually have moral objections, they are just posturing.

If that's not the case- they upset at Musk and Tim, but Soros as well? I very much doubt that, based off of everything I've skimmed so far in these related threads. Not so much as a mention.
I don’t think the outrage isn’t there, just might be slightly off topic from this current thread which is why you don’t see it much in these particular comments.
 
That’s fat shaming…not a very liberal or inclusive position. And yet the current guy literally had to drop out because he can’t string a sentence together and his party kicked him off the ticket.
Not many loved Biden and those that did admitted his age was an issue. Trump is also very old and yes is technically overweight from an objective medical perspective. Trump will be as old when he leaves office as Biden was, and in the same mental capacity.

Whataboutism isn’t helpful for discourse. Trump is now president, not Biden. Talking about Biden’s age doesn’t make sense.
 
There are more than just people's political alignments at stake here. I'm not going to comment on the politics of a country I don't live nor voted for but I do know that Apple are a big, easy target for regulators. Towing the line for 4 years is a protectionist measure ultimately designed to safeguard the internal culture at Apple and crucially the jobs of people who work there. Cook making a token donation and attending a social event pales in comparison to the spineless actions of Meta just up the road after all.

If in 4 years time Apple is still in roughly the same form its in now and Meta has gone the way of the Dodo, well I'm sure we will all pop a cork!
 
I wish Trump had not accepted such donations. We don’t want the incoming administration to be encumbered by perceived obligations to such donors.

Maybe no one would consider $1M enough to be able to expect favors.
You must not know this administration very well.
 
Not many loved Biden and those that did admitted his age was an issue. Trump is also very old and yes is technically overweight from an objective medical perspective. Trump will be as old when he leaves office as Biden was, and in the same mental capacity.

Whataboutism isn’t helpful for discourse. Trump is now president, not Biden. Talking about Biden’s age doesn’t make sense.

Well you lot just changed one sneeze away from a corpse for another one. Not like it still isn’t an issue.
 
Correct, we no longer operate in a functioning democracy when private business must kiss the ring to the king.
Did you think it was not a functioning democracy when Obama (2x) and Biden had an inauguration fund with donations from Microsoft, AT&T, Comcast, AirBnb, Salesforce, Boeing, GE, Lockheed, Pfizer, BOFA, AMEX, Ford, Dow, GM, Walmart, Lockheed, Chevron, Exxon, Coke, Raytheon, ad infinitum?
 
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Really?

Did you read the whole article? It does not support Trump as a supporter of LGBTQ rights.

Watch what they do, not who they appoint or what they say. It’s no different than Clarence Johnson ruling against the rights of minorities.
 
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Apple SJW-CEO Tim Cook is a gigantic hypocrite for attending the inauguration of a president whose views oppose many of the political stances Cook has publicly taken while virtue signaling.
Trump is the incoming president. That is set. It’s unlikely to change for 4 years.

These guys can either cry about it or they can try and influence change via cordial discussion.

Snubbing the invite to this is not the time to make some stand.

Get an audience with him and present your case.

Like it or not, pissing trump off for no good reason is going to be detrimental to both apple’s business and their customers.

Maintaining contact will at least give opportunity to explain privacy and manufacturing issues, import issues etc.

$1m is about the cost of one of Zuck’s watches. It’s a token gesture to maintain dialogue. It is not financially relevant.
 
This response is in such bad faith...Trump won damn near every swing state and even won the Popular vote lol Republicans also won the House and the Senate too...
The original poster provided facts and data. Trump telling you something does not overcome facts and data. The reason it was such an upset is because Trump wasn’t expected to win.
 
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The original poster provided facts and data. Trump telling you something does not overcome facts and data. The reason it was such an upset is because Trump wasn’t expected to win.
The actual vote results is also facts and data. Trump didn't just win above expectations (which he actually did in about 95% of voting precincts in the country), but he flat out won in total count too.
 
The actual vote results is also facts and data. Trump didn't just win above expectations (which he actually did in about 95% of voting precincts in the country), but he flat out won in total count too.
Again, no one is denying Trump won the election, popular vote, or popular vote. Trump was expected to lose the election, and won the election. The part that is untrue is that it was not a landslide victory, especially when compared to 2020. His popular vote margin was not significantly higher than Kamala’s, as noted above by another poster.

If you’re saying it was a landslide because Trump was expecting to lose but performed better, then that is also true but not defined as a landslide.
 
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Again, no one is denying Trump won the election, popular vote, or popular vote. Trump was expected to lose the election, and won the election. The part that is untrue is that it was not a landslide victory, especially when compared to 2020. His popular vote margin was not significantly higher than Kamala’s, as noted above by another poster.

If you’re saying it was a landslide because Trump was expecting to lose but performed better, then that is also true but not defined as a landslide.
It was a landslide in that he won a majority of districts and counties, states, total votes, and his party won in their respective apparatuses. There is not a metric or dimension of the election that his opposition could credibly be proud of.
 
I stopped reading/watching "news".

PoliticalWire.com ? I have stopped going. Haven't visited the site in more than a week now. It's like quitting an addiction.

X? Deleted.
Threads? Deleted.
Tik Tok / Instagram vertical videos? Deleted.

Drudge Report? No longer go.

CNN? Don't watch anymore.

I don't want to see his face. I don't want to hear his voice.

Constantly watching "news" and being outraged at all the crap he is doing is just not healthy. He and his supporters thrive on trolling and saying outrageous offensive things. Best to just pay no mind.

I will go to MacRumors. I will do software development stuff.

I will read more books, and go on "news" less.

Just stop paying attention to this stuff.

Has there been any "news items" from the past 8 days? Well guess what, I have no idea what happened, and I don't want to know.

It's going to get a lot worse. Jan 20 I will be going to work, focusing on learning more software development stuff, paying attention to family, and just not checking sites or news or anything.
Good for you, this is the best way to be at peace too. More free time for exercising, crafting your skills and advancing personal projects while others just lose their time (giving you an advantage at life by basically having to do nothing).

Myself I doubled down on that 4 years ago, I didn’t want to see the other face and those antics, same outcome though. Becoming apolitical ultimately makes everybody undivided.

MacRumors sadly becomes political news at times, and while they can be pertinent, maybe it’s better to skip these articles too.

Thrive on.
 
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Honestly, the tech bros kissing trumps ass has me concerned with not just the ethics of everyone involved, but with the security of the products itself. I fully expect apple products to have their security severely compromised during the next 4 years and will be looking to leave the apple ecosystem.
 
I wish Trump had not accepted such donations. We don’t want the incoming administration to be encumbered by perceived obligations to such donors.

Maybe no one would consider $1M enough to be able to expect favors.
Trump is showing off his oligarchs. His support and control of big business. The 1-million is simply an accountment, to show the public. Yes, they are toeing the line.
 
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Cook on the other hand has some very serious challenges when it comes to manufacturing being overseas in locations that Trump is likely to engage in new "fair and balance" strategies that could impact sales of Apple products such as the iPhone.
FYI: Trump put tariffs on Chinese soybean imports in his 1st term and China responded by putting tariffs on U.S. soybean exports to China. The end result was the U.S. soybean farming industry needing a U.S. taxpayer funded bailout because they lost so much business. That seems more like "stupid and wasteful" than "fair and balanced".
 
Let's go, Tim Apple! Major tech firms have rapidly changed their position regarding President Trump, as they are eager to align with him now. Let's goooooo!
 
This is the result of the foundation of economics:

That's not really the result of economics. It's the result of corruption and endless tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations. Trump's first term featured a $2 trillion tax cut that primarily benefited the wealthy and corporations. To put that in perspective, the stimulus for the Great Recession was less than $1 trillion. That first Trump tax cut is due to expire in 2025 and the GOP will likely renew + add even more giveaways to the wealthy/corporations on top of it.
 
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