What's become painfully obvious in these threads is that Cook and company now have a massive credibility problem. Cook has over-promised and under-delivered too many times. The "great products in the pipeline" line has been so overused it's ridiculous. The notion of "Pro" has now become so watered down that when Cook says it it's virtually meaningless. And Schiller is as clued-out as ever and proves himself to be completely tone-deaf concerning how what he says will be perceived or is just plain out of touch. There is, right now, quite simply no Mac I can recommend to people - even the new MB Pros seem to have too many issues (not to mention the price). For the first time in my life I feel more like I'm stuck with Apple (because of software investments) than I feel like I want to stay with Apple because I like their products so much.