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There's obviously a reason. Apple and companies like it have a whole army of people who crunch numbers all day long. Just because the logic isn't immediately obvious to you and me doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

A valid point. It's not like Apple is tanking it. Let's see what the numbers continue to say.
 
Thanks to Steve Jobs programming of the faithful followers,

What an idiotic nonsense. Are you claiming that Steve Jobs had some secret mind bending rays and used them to sell products? So the ones buying Samsung today are the ones who wore tin-foil hats all the time?

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What happened to the tv set that Steve Jobs "cracked" the whole cable thing? I feel like that's been in the dark for a long time...

Did you ever hear of two guys named Fermat and Wiles?

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Um. What? You do realize that net profit was down year over year, right? Also, your theory that they are seeing what they can "get away with" is downright silly. Contrary to whatever impression you may have been given, Tim Cook and company do not sit at their desks all day coming up with ways to screw you.

The same quarter last year was the one where the first Retina iPad was sold. That's a problem with "year over year" comparisons: Apple's sales and profits vary quite a lot with product introductions. Introduce a new product, get a good "year over year" comparison. Downside: You'll get a bad "year over year" comparison the year after.
 
A busy fall? I thought the springs/summers were the major releases which brought skepticism on holiday sales.

Before the WWDC was the banner event that had a known short-rope release date of their latest and greatest. Now it's just a presentation just to show whats coming with a next season release date.

It will be nice to see that earlier rotation back in play.
 
If people will keep on buying whatever Apple sticks the "fruit" logo on and no matter how inferior the product might be, Apple will assume that having a 2 year cycle for iPhone releases is perfectly OK. "S" iPhones are just slightly updated versions of their 1 year old predecessors and physically identical. Apple just slaps in couple of updated components inside and presto - brand new iPhone...
Well it isn't and most people i have talked to see it as well. This is bad news for Apple, because smart phone market today is way more advanced and competitive than it was only a year ago.
Time to innovate again Apple, or you "can't innovate my ass" anymore...
 
It appears that this "nonsense" struck a nerve...

No, the nonsense didn't. People being stupid, that does indeed annoy me. And people spouting nonsense. And people repeating the same nonsense again and again and again. And having to respond to people spouting nonsense because they deliberately misinterpret my reaction to their nonsense.

But let me just ask this question directly: Do you actually believe that "Steve Jobs has been programming his followers", or did you post that to annoy people? I just explained why I posted, now you can explain your post as well.
 
The Problem with Apple is....

The problem with Apple is they tell the customers what they need or should need. Like Flash, Mr. Jobs said you don't need Flash or you don't need an SD card for the Ipad, just buy 32gb for $100 bucks more. Apple's first product releases are mapped out for upgrades over a three year period the first Ipad no camera the customers want a camera next Gen the camera comes. This goes on through out the product line. Apple is losing ground by not giving the customers what they want, and prices are high for less product. I know this sounds like I am a Apple Hater, but I am not just want more for less.
 
If people will keep on buying whatever Apple sticks the "fruit" logo on and no matter how inferior the product might be, Apple will assume that having a 2 year cycle for iPhone releases is perfectly OK. "S" iPhones are just slightly updated versions of their 1 year old predecessors and physically identical. Apple just slaps in couple of updated components inside and presto - brand new iPhone...
Well it isn't and most people i have talked to see it as well. This is bad news for Apple, because smart phone market today is way more advanced and competitive than it was only a year ago.
Time to innovate again Apple, or you "can't innovate my ass" anymore...

Funny how, in the attempt to troll or just plain willful ignorance, people would call doubling CPU speed and quadrupling (or more) GPU speed to be a "slight update". I can only wish my desktop computer could get a "slight update" as often :)

I'm sure Google would be happy to "innovate your ass" if Apple can't, or what were you referring to in that last statement?
 
Thanks to Steve Jobs programming of the faithful followers, Apples demonstrating that they know exactly what they can get away with.

The master of power, control & influence Apple has, and always will continue to do it their way. Even long after they've lost the top spot.

Right?? Especially since they're not gaining new customers. All those faithful followers continuing to buy hundreds of devices each to keep apple looking strong!

More talking points....

:rolleyes:
 
The problem with Apple is they tell the customers what they need or should need. Like Flash, Mr. Jobs said you don't need Flash or you don't need an SD card for the Ipad, just buy 32gb for $100 bucks more. Apple's first product releases are mapped out for upgrades over a three year period the first Ipad no camera the customers want a camera next Gen the camera comes. This goes on through out the product line. Apple is losing ground by not giving the customers what they want, and prices are high for less product. I know this sounds like I am a Apple Hater, but I am not just want more for less.

Apple "tells" customers what they need, but no one else does?

Why does Samsung tell me I need a 4.7" phone to have the best internals? Why do all of the decent Android tablet makers (forgive the oxymoron) tell me I can't have a 3:4 aspect ratio? Why do most non-Apple devices tell me I need to have an inferior GPU? Why does Samsung keep telling me I need to have a plastic phone?

Every company offers products with or without certain features and no product, as you can see, can please everyone. But why is it only Apple that "tells you what you want"? :rolleyes:
 
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Yes, that's it!! The next big thing is smart earrings.

Too bad for the uptight str8 dudes without piercings, but great for the rest of us.

Forget earbuds, the iEarrings will directly send data to your auditory nerves.

Apple stock will climb to $420, I'm sure.

LOL! Mine closed over a long time ago!
 
Let me help you with this...

A finger print sensor is not impressive. Maybe the tech improved but HP ipaqs had this back in 2003

Multi factor authentication, that is affordable, and not easily defeated, is QUITE impressive. Right now we know that it's affordable. The manufacturing process takes fewer steps to accomplish the same thing. This results in lower manufacturing cost. If when it's publicly tested it holds up under testing, and has >.5% false positive rate, I'll jump for joy.

Saying, "gee, this isn't impressive because someone else did a crappy implementation that was easily defeated" is a little silly.
 
The problem with Apple is they tell the customers what they need or should need. Like Flash, Mr. Jobs said you don't need Flash or you don't need an SD card for the Ipad, just buy 32gb for $100 bucks more.

Yes, get what you need, and if you WANT you can use this Apple created dongle, plug it in, and have access to an SD card. I just recently purchased an Olympus EP-5 so that I would no longer be dependent on SD cards. No internet? AirDrop.

I'm going to clean up the next sentence so that it makes sense:

Apple's first product releases are mapped out for upgrades over a three year period.

Okay, so Apple expects that technology is going to become obsolete, and doesn't try to B.S. people into believing something different.

The first Ipad no camera.

I wish I could get an iPad Mini right now w/o a camera so that I could use it when I go to court. In my opinion, customers were wrong on this one. Why in the HELL would I use an iPad as a camera when I can do it in a smaller device, with as much memory? I agree with Steve on this one.

The customers want a camera. In the next generation iPad the camera comes.

So the customers wanted something, and the customers..... got what they wanted. You just made the argument that contradicts what you are saying.

This goes on through out the product line. Apple is losing ground by not giving the customers what they want, and prices are high for less product.

First, YOU said Apple DOES give customers what they want. You said it yourself. Second, NO Apple is not loosing ground. Name one time that Apple has had to cut the price on iPads in order to incentivize people to purchase them. Even once...

Now let's talk about Microsofts origami, or the current tablet they've had to cut prices on. Who owns the tablet market? Apple.

I know this sounds like I am a Apple Hater, but I am not just want more for less.

As I pointed out Microsoft is happy to accommodate you. I prefer the reality of better and more, and yes I believe in paying people for their work. I'm not entitled enough to think I deserve more for free.
 
A finger print sensor is not impressive. Maybe the tech improved but HP ipaqs had this back in 2003

Agreed, putting a piece of hardware somewhere is almost never impressive, it's going to be the accompanying software, and the utility it provides that will be the impressive part.
 
What recession?

Ummm....I guess, what recession? All of this stuff, plus two new game systems? Do companies think people are made of money?

The only thing I guess I'd like to get is maybe an upgraded iPad or iPhone (assuming there's a better camera - i'd really like a larger screen like a 4:3 or 4:7 I love the feel and usefullness of the large screen android phones), my iPad 2 is a little long in the tooth, but retina isn't enough of a justification to upgrade and LTE still kind of sucks where I am. So I have no compelling reason to upgrade anything this fall.
 
Well said I will think before I write

[ QUOTE=kd5jos;17625531]Yes, get what you need, and if you WANT you can use this Apple created dongle, plug it in, and have access to an SD card. I just recently purchased an Olympus EP-5 so that I would no longer be dependent on SD cards. No internet? AirDrop.

I'm going to clean up the next sentence so that it makes sense:



Okay, so Apple expects that technology is going to become obsolete, and doesn't try to B.S. people into believing something different.



I wish I could get an iPad Mini right now w/o a camera so that I could use it when I go to court. In my opinion, customers were wrong on this one. Why in the HELL would I use an iPad as a camera when I can do it in a smaller device, with as much memory? I agree with Steve on this one.



So the customers wanted something, and the customers..... got what they wanted. You just made the argument that contradicts what you are saying.



First, YOU said Apple DOES give customers what they want. You said it yourself. Second, NO Apple is not loosing ground. Name one time that Apple has had to cut the price on iPads in order to incentivize people to purchase them. Even once...

Now let's talk about Microsofts origami, or the current tablet they've had to cut prices on. Who owns the tablet market? Apple.



As I pointed out Microsoft is happy to accommodate you. I prefer the reality of better and more, and yes I believe in paying people for their work. I'm not entitled enough to think I deserve more for free.[/QUOTE]
 
I hope the Mac Pro is being released as well? I'm eager to find out what the new ones will cost, as my early 2008 is giving increasing signs that it's ready to be taken outside and shot :)

Well, it's probably still perfectly repairable (and a lot more cheaply than whatever the new Pro will cost), but as usual with Apple's pro offerings I'm starting to outgrow it and I'm also addicted to buying shiny new things, not a healthy combination for my funds!

I'm hoping the new Pro won't cost more than the current price brackets, but with two GPUs as standard they'll need to have a great deal in place to keep the low end Mac Pro affordable. Hopefully eliminating a second processor helps balance things a bit, as well as less materials for the case. Probably wishful thinking, but hopefully Apple knows they can only squeeze so hard on pricing.
 
So we're not expecting a Retina MacBook Pro refresh until October???? I thought it could be any day now, if you look at the Buyer's Guide…

The Buyer's Guide is not a crystal ball. It doesn't know when they products are going to be updated. Just because something is long overdue for an update, doesn't mean it will get one. Case in point - the iPod Classic and Shuffle, both of which 'update soon' according to the Buyer's Guide.
 
Without iPhone 6 released now (this year), with bigger screen, I can see Apple shares falling to sub $250 this year :(
Now, will that piss off shareholders off or what...
iPhone 5S will NOT cut it anymore I'm afraid...
Those days are over...
P.S; Just watch these shares coming down.
I predict Apple shares to be sub $250 by the end of this year alone...
Mark my words ;)

If you care to put your $ where you're trolling mouth is, I'd be PLEASED to use an escrow site to hold $1,000 of each of our money until Jan 1 of 2014, then releasing it to you if APPL is at or below $250 & to me if (well.. let's be honest- when) it is above $250. Please feel free to PM me. I'm serious about my post... though I doubt you are.
 
The Buyer's Guide is not a crystal ball. It doesn't know when they products are going to be updated. Just because something is long overdue for an update, doesn't mean it will get one. Case in point - the iPod Classic and Shuffle, both of which 'update soon' according to the Buyer's Guide.

Yes but those are all old products, no one really expects regular updates. But the Retina MBP is definitely a flagship product, and it would make sense for Apple to update it as often as they did until now. But then they haven't updates the iPad Mini in a long time either, even though its a well-selling iPad, so who knows…

I'm only curious because I'm planning on buying a rMBP soon :D who knows, the price may be lower, the low-end model may be better, the image retention problem may be fixed… And if the CPU is faster or the battery life is better, I'm waiting for the update.

But if the rMBP already appeared in benchmarks, it means the product is complete, so why wait three more months before releasing it? Sure production has to ramp up but they're already producing the current generation models fast enough, it's not like they have brand new technology to iron out.
 
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