Which is not really the case, I would guess that Porsche's market it share is at most 20% in the +$70,000 market. BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Lexus are the volume producers in the high-end market (plus there is Jaguar, and all the other smaller producers like Maserati, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, RR).
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Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June
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Walk into Best Buy. Alienware (now a part of Dell) is perhaps the only brand you won't see there. IBM (Lenovo), Dell, and especially Toshiba are sold frequently in physical stores. And lets not forget the other king of $1,000 computers, Sony (who actually makes a decent product), which is sold heavily in stores. While on the other hand, Apple also has very strong online sales.
91% really is impressive. I never want to see Apple slashing the quality of their products in an effort to complete with these terrible low-price computers. I can't even imagine the field-day the media would have with the 'Apple' word if their products were released with as many problems as most of these other brands (though admittedly not as common in the $1000+ computers). HP tossed out a delightful surprise nearly every two months (such as a computer released with faulty video drivers, or another computer with a button that broke for many within weeks). Unsurprisingly this was a little while after they announced to their shareholders that they'd be cutting money spent on quality/premium parts, and focusing on aesthetics and marketing (at lower price points). It was a 'success'.
In other news:
"Apple Claims 100% of Mac Computer Market"
Although the implication that the high end buyer is far more likely to buy a Mac is somewhat interesting. But this stat alone does not prove that implication.
It's not only good, it's the HIGHEST market share in the history of personal computers for that segment. Apple is, as usual, firing on ALL cylinders and teaching money-bleeding companies such as MS and Dell how to manage a global IT corporation. Why buy a stupid PC when you can have the BEST computer out there? There is ABSOLUTELY no appeal or justification to buy Windows today.
The naive ones that don't believe me when I say MS is DEAD will eat some high-grade crow sooner than later...MS is a train wreck while Apple leads the pack in ALL areas where it conducts its business.
Dell, it's time to close up shop and give the little money you have left back to shareholders...or perhaps to MS, so that it can survive a little bit longer.
MS IS DEAD.
The average user gets their comp from stores, Best Buy being one of the major ones.
Those Laptop Hunter abortions are in what setting? Stores. Large outlets. Apple is beating the competition on their own turf. What does it say when you can't unload your best, top-end $1000+ notebooks? Bargain bin! Where consumers go because they MUST, not because they WANT to.
If Apple is ruling this store setting in the Premium end ($1000+) that is very impressive, and comes as no surprise, as Apple has had a lock on the Premium end of the market for quite a while now.
And really, THIS is how you measure "market share." It isn't one big market. There are segments to it. There are different levels to it. It's a pyramid. Does not bode well for the competition when Apple rules the Premium end. Apple is getting the creme-de-la-creme of consumers. This type of consumer propels your product into the high-desirability sphere - where consumers aspire to be.
Makes MS look like they're operating out of the bargain bin. And they are.
People will pay for a better computing experience, for something that costs more initially but gets them greater satisfaction in the future.
Those Laptop Hunter abortions are in what setting? Stores. Large outlets. Apple is beating the competition on their own turf. What does it say when you can't unload your best, top-end $1000+ notebooks? Bargain bin! Where consumers go because they MUST, not because they WANT to.
If Apple is ruling this store setting in the Premium end ($1000+) that is very impressive, and comes as no surprise, as Apple has had a lock on the Premium end of the market for quite a while now.
And really, THIS is how you measure "market share." It isn't one big market. There are segments to it. There are different levels to it. It's a pyramid. Does not bode well for the competition when Apple rules the Premium end. Apple is getting the creme-de-la-creme of consumers. This type of consumer propels your product into the high-desirability sphere - where consumers aspire to be.
Makes MS look like they're operating out of the bargain bin. And they are.
People will pay for a better computing experience, for something that costs more initially but gets them greater satisfaction in the future.
That's probably one of the DUMBEST statements I've read in a long time here...you absolutely ignore why Apple computers are bought in droves nowadays, something that has little to no connection with the fact that a MOBO is made by Asus or whatever XPYRB company you prefer.
In a nutshell, enjoy your inferior PC, Sir.
You do realise that at best its around 20 PC's sold for every 1 Mac? In fact its probably closer to 30. (Assuming a 3-5% world market share)
So Apple are dominating? Your post is cute though...
Not only was this statistic limited to physical store sales, but it was also limited to the month of JUNE.
It did rise 3% from MAY (according to NPD's last report made that was just as limiting), and perhaps the price cuts that started June 9th helped with that extra 3%. Or maybe it rose because more people starting buying cheaper computers during the recession?
All in all, putting strict limits on statistical boundaries until you get a crazy high number, skews the truth, and draws attention away from the full picture and ultimately means nothing.
competition? well, it is only in US. it;s working well. but when you compare with overall market share in the world, Apple is still tiny. for most people in the world, over $1000 is still expensive. closed 10% market in US is only good for americans. for world, it's like less than 4-5%. so it's not competition. there are plenty of PC laptop is, which has better spec than mac, sold less than even $800. mac is still overprice. as a matter of fact, when Apple suddenly hit the market like this situation? since ipod? probably. you never know what will be happening. at least Apple has been lucky for recent 7-8 years. I know that mac os x and design of product is better than PC (actually, I have used mac for 12 years, and own couple of macs, PC both now). it is ease to use, very intutitive UI, attractive. but Apple will be still occupied in tiny market whatsoever if they don't cut more price like PC. for the record, I love Sony Vaio. it's good looking PC, well design, doesn't broke. I am not sure whether you know or not. Sony Vaio is one of the most reliable PC in the market. that's why repair rate is very minimal. actually, their's price is flexible not like mac. anyway, it's good to see Apple market share is growing.
You should work on your economics skills then...I wouldn't be happy if I sold 20 PCs for 1 dollar each, while Apple sells 1 Mac for 100. These inferior companies are not exactly happy for selling those crappy bottom-of-the-barrel netbooks almost at cost-based levels...and this is exactly why Apple won't enter that stillborn market.
My macbook isn't a high end machine. So, yeah Apple, keep ripping me off....
Funny how everybody who was crying for cheaper macbooks and voted negative when they were released with the unchanged high price now vote positive when all these news are saying is that Apple is an expensive company. Heck, the whole portable lineup is $1000+!
Who else is buying "highend" laptops, besides Mac-Users? Just professionals, and they don't have a choice if they need the Mac Os. I guess the other few percent Non-Macs are game-nerds.
So what this is saying is that in the US retail market that Macs make up the bulk of purchases in excess of $1,000?
And this is news?
Sorry, but since most people don't spend $1,000 on a laptop, there are hardly any Macs under $1,000 and as on-line sales - which account for the vast majority of high end gaming laptops - and corporate purchases aren't counted this ain't rocket science.
I would be interested to see what the $700 - $1,000 tranche looks like as I'd wager the vast amount of non-netbook sales fall in there.
And this is news?
Sorry, but since most people don't spend $1,000 on a laptop, there are hardly any Macs under $1,000 and as on-line sales - which account for the vast majority of high end gaming laptops - and corporate purchases aren't counted this ain't rocket science.
I would be interested to see what the $700 - $1,000 tranche looks like as I'd wager the vast amount of non-netbook sales fall in there.
The problem is most people who buy computers over $1k are techies and they rarely shop in stores. They either buy online or build one themselves, neither of those are included in the 9%.
Still impressive numbers.
Still impressive numbers.
Weren't the laptops all updated in May/June?
That could account for an increase in sales as people were buying the fresh model or perhaps getting the older one at a lower price from resellers (though this doesn't happen all that often). One month, especially that month, is not a good indicator of very much.
Not to mention that a lot of machines, cheap and expensive, are bought online.
The statistic offers no explanation as to why, in June, 91% of all personal computers costing over $1000 and sold in brick-and-mortar stores in a defined area were made by Apple. It just says that they were.
That could account for an increase in sales as people were buying the fresh model or perhaps getting the older one at a lower price from resellers (though this doesn't happen all that often). One month, especially that month, is not a good indicator of very much.
Not to mention that a lot of machines, cheap and expensive, are bought online.
The statistic offers no explanation as to why, in June, 91% of all personal computers costing over $1000 and sold in brick-and-mortar stores in a defined area were made by Apple. It just says that they were.
Check Made out to Apple, Inc. still uncashed...
Check Made out to Apple, Inc. still uncashed...
While I agree this is good news for Apple's profit margins, it's bad for some people wanting to buy a Mac, especially in a bad economy and especially for some potential PC switchers.
I'm still waiting for that somewhere around $1500 range mythical mid-range Mac tower.
A check is written and waiting to be cashed, only the product does not exist!
I know most people are switching to laptops, but more and more people also have multiple computers. I still want a decently powered mid-range desktop in addition to my laptop. I want something that has some expandability and can drive my HDTV with video or I can add a Blu-Ray drive to and has somewhat close to Mac Pro power, but slightly smaller than my G5. And I'm stubborn, I'm never going to buy into the iMac All-In-One Disposable computer model nor have I ever. At least with a desktop, if my LCD goes down, I can replace it, plus I can more easily run 2-3 displays or buy a bigger display at some point in the future or upgrade video or memory. Apple is seriously missing out on this market and lots of these people represent potential PC switchers too. I just don't get it.
Why not?
I'm shocked Microsoft hasn't done a commercial where they lambast Apple by searching for a desktop computer and find that Apple has NONE in a certain price range which strangely, would be easy for Apple to produce.
Are you listening Microsoft?
(Disclaimer: The iMac is NOT a desktop, it's an ALL-IN-ONE, there IS a distinction.)
Check Made out to Apple, Inc. still uncashed...
While I agree this is good news for Apple's profit margins, it's bad for some people wanting to buy a Mac, especially in a bad economy and especially for some potential PC switchers.
I'm still waiting for that somewhere around $1500 range mythical mid-range Mac tower.
A check is written and waiting to be cashed, only the product does not exist!
I know most people are switching to laptops, but more and more people also have multiple computers. I still want a decently powered mid-range desktop in addition to my laptop. I want something that has some expandability and can drive my HDTV with video or I can add a Blu-Ray drive to and has somewhat close to Mac Pro power, but slightly smaller than my G5. And I'm stubborn, I'm never going to buy into the iMac All-In-One Disposable computer model nor have I ever. At least with a desktop, if my LCD goes down, I can replace it, plus I can more easily run 2-3 displays or buy a bigger display at some point in the future or upgrade video or memory. Apple is seriously missing out on this market and lots of these people represent potential PC switchers too. I just don't get it.
Why not?
I'm shocked Microsoft hasn't done a commercial where they lambast Apple by searching for a desktop computer and find that Apple has NONE in a certain price range which strangely, would be easy for Apple to produce.
Are you listening Microsoft?
(Disclaimer: The iMac is NOT a desktop, it's an ALL-IN-ONE, there IS a distinction.)
Every time you post you show your ignorance. Your blind faith to a computer company is amazing and is one of the reasons why apple can charge a high price for inferior equipment. If you read my post you would see that I use macs everyday and they are great. What I am arguing is that the computer itself is overpriced and the parts used are on par or below average with everything out there. You would not know this because surfing the internet and checking email is all you do all day on your macbook. It can handle these activities quite well.
Good luck trying to get somebody to actually talk to you about these points, sir.
Oh wait, I will
I agree with that first paragraph, completely.
It's interesting because B&M for Apple is their own stores and of course a sizeable chunk of Best Buys. So what is their criteria that constitutes a B&M store.
Apple does have a decent lineup. They aren't perfect, but they are perfect at what they do... and that's what matters to them and of course their investors.
This sounds great (and it is to an extent), but exclusively obtaining data from brick-and-mortar big box and retail stores is fatally flawed for premium level computer sales. I'm sure Apple still has an enormous market share, but it won't be anywhere near that big. The reason being that most $1000+ PCs fall into three categories that will NOT be picked up in their data:
1) Gaming PCs - Most high-end gaming desktops/laptops are purchased built-to-order online from the likes of Dell, HP, Alienware, Falcon northwest, and other many other smaller boutique vendors. You will NOT find these at a BestBuy©.
2) Ultraportable laptops - These would be laptops from Sony (TT, Z, etc) Panasonic (W5, T5, etc), Toshiba (various models), IBM (X300, X200, etc), Dell (adamo), etc. You would be hard pressed to find many at retail stores besides a few of the Sonys. Many are available online-only, and a lot of them are purchased grey-market from Asia.
3) Workstation and Workstation laptops - high-end workstation PCs from the likes of Dell (Precision), HP, Lenovo, and others are definitely not found in retail stores. They may also not be included anyways as they are seen as "business" computers, although many consumers buy them because of their quality/durability/performance.
Lastly, even regular, mainstream consumer desktops and laptops found in most retail stores and big box stores are of the budget and average variety as that is the clientele they are servicing. Rarely do you ever see $1500-$2500 PCs at a Best Buy, Frys, or Walmart.
1) Gaming PCs - Most high-end gaming desktops/laptops are purchased built-to-order online from the likes of Dell, HP, Alienware, Falcon northwest, and other many other smaller boutique vendors. You will NOT find these at a BestBuy©.
2) Ultraportable laptops - These would be laptops from Sony (TT, Z, etc) Panasonic (W5, T5, etc), Toshiba (various models), IBM (X300, X200, etc), Dell (adamo), etc. You would be hard pressed to find many at retail stores besides a few of the Sonys. Many are available online-only, and a lot of them are purchased grey-market from Asia.
3) Workstation and Workstation laptops - high-end workstation PCs from the likes of Dell (Precision), HP, Lenovo, and others are definitely not found in retail stores. They may also not be included anyways as they are seen as "business" computers, although many consumers buy them because of their quality/durability/performance.
Lastly, even regular, mainstream consumer desktops and laptops found in most retail stores and big box stores are of the budget and average variety as that is the clientele they are servicing. Rarely do you ever see $1500-$2500 PCs at a Best Buy, Frys, or Walmart.
You seem to be missing the fact that we are talking about marketshare, not profit. apple may make more then a lot of the major PC manufacturers, but their marketshare is still in the low end.
We'll see this afternoon
Microsoft's earnings announcement is after close of markets today.
We'll see if their "bleeding" matches the $4.4 billion in income on $13.6 billion in revenue last quarter.
I think that around 95% of computer buyers disagree with you.
Microsoft's earnings announcement is after close of markets today.
We'll see if their "bleeding" matches the $4.4 billion in income on $13.6 billion in revenue last quarter.
I think that around 95% of computer buyers disagree with you.
I maintain my statement, as you continue to ignore completely why Macs offer by far the best computing experience, with the best build quality, lowest return rates and most efficient customer service as confirmed by a billion reports out there.
Besides, if you really think that "parts" are what matter to define "best", you should go back to school and study a little more about economics and market behavior.
And no, I don't have a MB.
Not in the segment that indeed brings earnings to a company, as the article shows.
