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Your statement is amazing. They did not cut the price on the MBP!! They took out the graphics card and thus cut cost. They did cut the cost of the macbook air and that is it.

You are wrong. Only MBP that kept it's price was $1999 15" MBP. Hi-end model was reduced in price by $200, 17" MBP was reduced by $300. How exactly can you claim that MBP saw no price-reductions, when in fact they did? Every single model was reduced in price, apart from ONE model!

ALso, the 13" saw reduction, if we compare it to it's immediate successor, the 13" Unibody-MacBook.

Sheesh....
 
As a happy iMac owner (on my second now) who has built his own PCs in the past (and won't go back), I beg to differ.

You want uninformed consumers? Try Windows.

I am pretty sure you are just saying you built PCs:D If you did build PCs they must have been pretty slow.
 
Classic!! It is a desktop when it uses desktop components!!!!

The use-scenario of the device decides whether it's a desktop or a laptop, not the components it uses. iMac might use laptop-parts (apart from the HD), but that does NOT change the fact that it's a desktop! You use the computer on your desk, it's not a portable computer, therefore it's a desktop.

iMac is a desktop, period.
 
The use-scenario of the device decides whether it's a desktop or a laptop, not the components it uses. iMac might use laptop-parts (apart from the HD), but that does NOT change the fact that it's a desktop! You use the computer on your desk, it's not a portable computer, therefore it's a desktop.

iMac is a desktop, period.

Keep telling yourself that. Also click your heels together when you say it and maybe someday your laptop will become a desktop!!:eek:
 
Classic!! It is a desktop when it uses desktop components!!!! I bet you didn't even realize everything in your imac, except the hard drive, is a laptop part.

Sorry, your accusations of ignorance do not apply here.

WTF does it matter if the mobo on my computer fits the form factor of a laptop instead of a desktop machine? I know it probably drives you to a rage to know that you can't OC an iMac and stuff a bunch of extra cooling fans (and LED lights) in there. Sadly (for you), the iMac is a perfect machine for many of us. Fast, whisper quiet, runs all OSes with ease, takes up very little space on the desktop, and looks great doing so.

Funny how agitated some people get when they realize their needs aren't necessarily the needs of everyone else.

Me, I'll be helping a neighbor set up his new iMac this week after a virus wrecked his Windows desktop machine and the repair shop compounded matters by torching his hard drive.

I'm sure he cares that his new computer sports a laptop-style mobo. :rolleyes:

I'm still not sure why all the anti-Apple griefers like to congregate in MacRumors these days...do I smell the pungent aroma of astroturf? Or is hanging out in Windows forums to discuss Steve Ballmer's favorite antiperspirant or the latest/greatest malware scanner just not exciting enough for you?
 
You are wrong. Only MBP that kept it's price was $1999 15" MBP. Hi-end model was reduced in price by $200, 17" MBP was reduced by $300. How exactly can you claim that MBP saw no price-reductions, when in fact they did? Every single model was reduced in price, apart from ONE model!

ALso, the 13" saw reduction, if we compare it to it's immediate successor, the 13" Unibody-MacBook.

Sheesh....

You are right on the 17" model but my anger with the price cuts was the blatant lie told at the conference and by people on this forum. The 15" did not receive a price cut at all. They made a big deal of saying look we cut the 15" price to $1699. They didn't.
 
This is for brick and mortar stores only. I'd wager that if online sales were included, that the percent would drop significantly. I'd even say it would be less then 50%.

I would have to agree with this. You're not going to walk into any old store and find the shelves full of Lenovo and Alienware machines. I'm not sure if it would drop below 50%, but it likely wouldn't be close to 91% either.
 
Keep telling yourself that. Also click your heels together when you say it and maybe someday your laptop will become a desktop!!:eek:

Are you REALLY going to claim that iMac is a laptop just because it uses some laptop-parts? Do you even know what a "laptop" is? Do I need to show you a picture of a laptop?

Of all the stupidity I have seen, this takes the cake....
 
Sorry, your accusations of ignorance do not apply here.

WTF does it matter if the mobo on my computer fits the form factor of a laptop instead of a desktop machine? I know it probably drives you to a rage to know that you can't OC an iMac and stuff a bunch of extra cooling fans (and LED lights) in there. Sadly (for you), the iMac is a perfect machine for many of us. Fast, whisper quiet, runs all OSes with ease, takes up very little space on the desktop, and looks great doing so.

Funny how agitated some people get when they realize their needs aren't necessarily the needs of everyone else.

Me, I'll be helping a neighbor set up his new iMac this week after a virus wrecked his Windows desktop machine and the repair shop compounded matters by torching his hard drive.

I'm sure he cares that his new computer sports a laptop-style mobo. :rolleyes:

I'm still not sure why all the anti-Apple griefers like to congregate in MacRumors these days...do I smell the pungent aroma of astroturf? Or is hanging out in Windows forums to discuss Steve Ballmer's favorite antiperspirant or the latest/greatest malware scanner just not exciting enough for you?

Funny how I have owned and currently own more computers, macs as well, then you have ever owned. I just prefer to think for myself and not follow the coolest trend. Enjoy your iMac it is very pretty and well a great consumer product. I do require more from my computers then hello kitty and email. I have never understood how so many people on this forum have a friend who blew up their hard drive. I guess what you are saying is Apple makes computers for people who have no idea how to manage a computer. I agree.
 
Are you REALLY going to claim that iMac is a laptop just because it uses some laptop-parts? Do you even know what a "laptop" is? Do I need to show you a picture of a laptop?

Of all the stupidity I have seen, this takes the cake....

Then you should try reading your posts more often. They are riddled with stupidity.
 
You are right on the 17" model but my anger with the price cuts was the blatant lie told at the conference and by people on this forum. The 15" did not receive a price cut at all. They made a big deal of saying look we cut the 15" price to $1699. They didn't.
Now you seem to be telling a lie. If they did cut the price of the top 15" model, how can you say 'the 15" did not receive a price cut at all'?
 
As was said on the recent earnings conference call, "We don't want to make the most computers, we want to make the best computers."

Profitability is key to surviving - not overall numbers. In the end, Apple is a company out to make money...and with the quality products that have shown up in the last many years, I am happy to pay whatever is asked.

Pretty much exactly how I feel !

Congrats APPLE !!!
 
You are right on the 17" model but my anger with the price cuts was the blatant lie told at the conference and by people on this forum. The 15" did not receive a price cut at all. They made a big deal of saying look we cut the 15" price to $1699. They didn't.

They said that the 15" MBPs start at $1699, which is $300 less than before. And that claim is 100% true. The midrange-15" saw n o price-reduction, while the hi-end model was reduced in price. So how exactly can you claim that they did not reduce prices, when in fact they did? Only MBP-model that was NOT reduced in price was the midrange 15"! Yet here you are, claiming that they did not reduce prices.

To use simpler words: Before WWDC, there were two 15" MBPs. In WWDC, they bumped the specs of the low-end 15" and kept it's price intact. They also bumped the specs of the hi-end 15" and LOWERED it's price. They also added a new low-end model that was $300 cheaper than the previous low-end model.

While you are arguing that "Apple did not lower prices" and "iMac is a laptop!", why not argue that "sky is green!" as well? It would be just about as intelligent and pointless as your current arguments....
 
Funny how I have owned and currently own more computers, macs as well, then you have ever owned.

I seriously doubt this. We're all terribly impressed by your braggadocio though.

I do require more from my computers then hello kitty and email.

LIKE CRYSIS!!! LAN party this weekend homies! Most LED lighting wins a prize!

I guess what you are saying is Apple makes computers for people who have no idea how to manage a computer. I agree.

Since the now-dead, virus infested computer that is being replaced was a Windows box, apparently Microsoft (and their hardware-making collaborators) makes computers for idiots too. Computers that, sadly, just don't work right...
 
They have an $800, Core 2 Duo, with 4 GB of RAM?

How much notebook do they need?

Except that your processor probably has a slow clock speed and your ram isn't DDR3...you see when you get a mac you get it for the high end components...it's like getting a audio cable with gold plugs instead of copper to make an analogy. Now an $800 laptop from Dell or another company is gonna be made out of plastic instead of machined aluminum...the display isn't going to be covered by glossy glass and the soundcard is going to be weak...all mac laptops come standard with optical output on their sound cards. Plus to keep the costs down the majority of PC laptops are built with the cheapest components not the best. THATS the difference.
 
They said that the 15" MBPs start at $1699, which is $300 less than before. And that claim is 100% true. The midrange-15" saw n o price-reduction, while the hi-end model was reduced in price. So how exactly can you claim that they did not reduce prices, when in fact they did? Only MBP-model that was NOT reduced in price was the midrange 15"! Yet here you are, claiming that they did not reduce prices.

To use simpler words: Before WWDC, there were two 15" MBPs. In WWDC, they bumped the specs of the low-end 15" and kept it's price intact. They also bumped the specs of the hi-end 15" and LOWERED it's price. They also added a new low-end model that was $300 cheaper than the previous low-end model.

While you are arguing that "Apple did not lower prices" and "iMac is a laptop!", why not argue that "sky is green!" as well? It would be just about as intelligent and pointless as your current arguments....

You are right I apologize. They lowered the price of the 15" MBP. Most consumers, like you, have no idea what a dedicated graphics card is. Why would they need it? Most consumers have no idea what that little M after their graphic card means. Most consumers have no idea they are getting 2 year old mobile processors in their "desktop". Just like you they will only watch a movie or surf the internet on their computer. They will come to the forum and say how great their experience is and how amazing the OS is. I was arguing for the educated consumer. Unfortunately there are very few left.
 
... But According to Apple Legal the "Laptop Hunters" ads are misleading?

I believe these figures proves the Microsoft Laptop hunter ads correct and not misleading. In the commercial, one goes on a hunt for a sub $1,000 laptop, and exclaims, "there is not Mac for this price". Yeah - way to go Apple. How is this news? I wonder who they are going toss out a 12 story window next? *That* won't even be news, either.
 
Except that your processor probably has a slow clock speed and your ram isn't DDR3...you see when you get a mac you get it for the high end components...it's like getting a audio cable with gold plugs instead of copper to make an analogy. Now an $800 laptop from Dell or another company is gonna be made out of plastic instead of machined aluminum...the display isn't going to be covered by glossy glass and the soundcard is going to be weak...all mac laptops come standard with optical output on their sound cards. Plus to keep the costs down the majority of PC laptops are built with the cheapest components not the best. THATS the difference.

See this post is the only reason that I have even tried to stir up a fight. Fine hate me for what I say but please think of the children!! This kid thinks apple uses some fancy magic computer parts in their systems that are better than all other computers. Other than the case THEY ARE THE SAME PARTS!!! Most of the time they are inferior to the $800 computer.
 
I guess what you are saying is Apple makes computers for people who have no idea how to manage a computer. I agree.

I started using computers when I was about 6 years old, back in 1983. I started with C64, moved to C128, Amiga 500, various PC's (mostly self-built in later stages), until I bought a Mac in 2005. I have used Linux since 1999, and at one point I built my OS practically from scratch (although Gentoo Linux took SOME of the hardcore-macho out of it). My work is all about managing computers, servers and software they run. And I use a Mac, which I use for various tasks, including gaming and digital photography.

But hey, I guess I know nothing about computers...
 
Keep telling yourself that. Also click your heels together when you say it and maybe someday your laptop will become a desktop!!:eek:

You must be able to win every argument you get in if you can change the meaning of words at your whim! :rolleyes:

You are right on the 17" model but my anger with the price cuts was the blatant lie told at the conference and by people on this forum. The 15" did not receive a price cut at all.

The high end 15" did receive a price cut.

They made a big deal of saying look we cut the 15" price to $1699. They didn't.

The lowest priced 15" MBP is $1699.
 
THAT's The Difference?

Except that your processor probably has a slow clock speed and your ram isn't DDR3...you see when you get a mac you get it for the high end components...it's like getting a audio cable with gold plugs instead of copper to make an analogy. Now an $800 laptop from Dell or another company is gonna be made out of plastic instead of machined aluminum...the display isn't going to be covered by glossy glass and the soundcard is going to be weak...all mac laptops come standard with optical output on their sound cards. Plus to keep the costs down the majority of PC laptops are built with the cheapest components not the best. THATS the difference.

The difference is that PC users can pick and chose what parts go into a computer. I for one build my own. When is the last time you built a Mac? Can you chose what brand of power supply, cooling fans, processor, what brand of graphics card manufacturer, etc. Goes into a Mac? There is a whole aisle of sound card vendors at Microcenter that one can purchase and pop into a PC - along with a million other upgrades. THAT is the difference.
 
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