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So what that means is that they only had 700.000 iPhones in 5 Countries?
That's few! Plus if they had the white one I'm sure they would've sold at least 300.000 more.
 
iPhone 4 will start to eat into the iPad's sales. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the iPad sales numbers start to level off substantially in the next couple of months.
 
Something doesnt add up. Reports are that Apple has produced 3-4 million phones since May, but have run out on 600K preorders?
 
activation question

so i haven't upgraded before, still with the first gen. will the 4 come already activated or will there be an even bigger log jam on the 24th with pre-orders and walk-ins all trying to activate? i don't even want to imagine that. being so close as to have it in my hand and not be able to activate... so close, yet so far.
 
7 orders/second is loafing for most servers. A single web front-end and a single database server should have flown with this load. Hell, a single *Rails* server with a MySQL back-end should have been able to handle this! (Rails is notoriously inefficient. And maybe I should have said "Oracle backend", because MySQL generally beats the pants off of Oracle, so, OK, I'll stipulate a single Rails server with an Oracle back-end...)

Of course, it wasn't spread evenly over a 24-hour period.

Even so, ATT should have been able to afford a half-dozen servers.

The real problem lies somewhere else than server load.

Nope, that's 600000 _successful_ customers, which equates to many more actual attempts. Each customer attempt probably results in several queries to the server to get acct info, to verify eligibility, etc. So one can't simply take 600K iphones and divide by 23 and say "that's a wimpy load".
 
I think by the time I go back to school 1 out of every 4 people I see on campus will have an iPhone 4.

here in Switzerland, 1 out of 10 people already have an iPhone (and on campus it's about 3 out of 5 people)
 
i thought i read an article that stated apple ordered enough material to make 1 million iphones??? i could be mistaken. forgot where i found it but it was from a reliable website.
 
I agree with "The Sequel" statement as it is going to be crazy!

Looks like it doesn't matter when you get your iPhone as long as it's next week. It's going to be a nice piece of work on Tuesday when iOS4 is released. It's going to be even better on Thursday when the rest of the iPhone's are released. My advice, get the iPhone on Thursday. Don't even try to authorize cuz all you are going to do is get frustrated and ticked off. Wait till 3 or 4 in the Morning EDT. No problem. Will I be taking this advice, who knows. I might give it a go or two if I get it on Thursday (pre-ordered though AT&T Premier).

And I think the server load would have crushed any system that is AT&T size. They are not use to that load what so ever and it does not make any sense to cram in a bunch of servers for a day. And it's not as easy as it sounds. They would have to buy 20 + servers, hook them up, image them, test them, hook them up to their monitoring software... That could easily add up to $50k+ when you factor in labor hours and delivery...
 
Still can't get mine reserved!

I keep getting a message saying "We were unable to complete set up online.
To finish creating your account, you’ll need to visit an Apple Retail Store where we can help you in person" Is anyone still having this problem? Thanks!
 
Wow...

They sold just about 7 iPhones a second for a whole day... That is ridiculous.

i read that somewhere also!

They also have to think about the stores and other countries also. And I don't think that that number is true. XD
 
Trust me, no. The servers would have copped, but the bandwidth would have not been enough, hence you would still get back server not responsing error messages. Even though the servers are up and running and could handle much more load.

I agree and disagree... there were obvious problems with the site. I noticed changes come and go throughout the day as their web devs were clearly working on it trying to throw in stuff like the AJAX overlay spinners to avoid full screen refreshes... things that should have been done before the server massacre occurred. This part, of course, was Apple's fault. Once they got that fixed and it was pushed out to all the servers, then AT&T folded.

This was all based on observation, no inside sources here!
 
Is anyone else who's had an iPhone since the beginning somewhat upset about how now everyone has one.?
 
Release Day Phones

Anyone have any indication as to whether or not apple stores will have a supply for people who are just walking up? If so, will you have to wait till all the reservations are out before walk ups can start buying theirs? I have been trying to call apple but they won't take calls yet. Just wondering if someone else has had better luck. Thanks!
 
What irritates me is that apparently server issues made them sell me a few *extra* iphones.

Finding $900 missing from my bank did *not* make me a happy camper. :(

Fortunately the order status page let me cancel the extras.

So there should be an extra three iphones available to deliver on the 24th.

Well the uncertainty sold an extra one here. The plan was to get a new one on the wife's account and do an upgrade swap, but by the middle of the afternoon I managed to get an ATT order in right about the time they started going back on the 24th delivery date and went to 25-28th (which att Im guessing dont even know *yet* when the orders will get filled) so we decided to order one on my account from apple and now will upgrade both lines vs the planned one upgrade.
 
Nice to see the demand...however, how many of these purchases are:

1)by current customers upgrading from old iPhone to new?
2)by current customers upgrading from a non-iPhone to iPhone?
3)by brand new customers signing up and buying an iPhone?


I think #2 and #3 are really what Apple should care about (since consumers would be moving to the iPhone platform rather than current iPhoners simply buying a new model).

At the end of the day it's still $$$ for ATT and Apple...but I think Apple (and ATT) would like to increase the iPhone's market share.

-Eric
 
Something doesnt add up. Reports are that Apple has produced 3-4 million phones since May, but have run out on 600K preorders?

yeah, 600k looks a low for apple estimate and fall flat ... something weird going on...

oh that poor Chinese worker have to work overtime with out much pay ... poor chaps indeed.
 
Something doesnt add up. Reports are that Apple has produced 3-4 million phones since May, but have run out on 600K preorders?


I used to work for apple store and was a manager. We the stores get about 4,000 of each model. so we can feed the lines on top of pre-orders.

pm if you got more questions
 
Something doesnt add up. Reports are that Apple has produced 3-4 million phones since May, but have run out on 600K preorders?

I do believe a bulk of their sales is going to be walkins on the 24th. They can't very well sell out all their stock and say "hey guys, don't line up on the 24th because we don't have any more!"
 
Something doesnt add up. Reports are that Apple has produced 3-4 million phones since May, but have run out on 600K preorders?

We have no idea when they started production. And I am guessing these are for people that paid. Not all the phones that will ship to stores or people that made a reservation.
 
I don't see why it would be so prohibitive for them (both Apple AND AT&T) to have a massive amount of servers to be able to handle the rush. Sure it'd be a waste for most of the year, but the frustration faced by me and EVERYONE else yesterday was ridiculous for a 4th year in a row now! I haven't heard of one story where the person was able to order smoothly and/or quickly.

Now here's a question, would Verizon be able to handle this amount of load on a single day?

-Brian

Uh, how do you know that they _didn't_ do that? How many is a "massive" amount? If someone at AT&T guesstimated that this launch would be twice the size as the 3GS and then upped that to 3x (or doubled to 4x) "just to be safe", they'd still have been way off. For iphone 5, should they shoot for 10x again? Is that remotely reasonable? Is 2x enough, 1x, 5x?

Plus folks seem to be ignoring the "rumor" that the issue is more the result of an AT&T software update, not a hardware capacity issue.
 
My husband was teasing me for staying up until 1 am here in California and trying to order it until 3:30 and rejoicing when I finally got it, even though I only slept 3 hours. He didn't believe they would all sell out! I finally decided to have get my first Iphone and have waited since Feb for the new one to come out. I didn't want to wait any longer! hehe I think it's a testament to how popular these phones still are. Android users want to hate on Apple, but they've never seen anything like this.
 
So I managed to get one "reserved"...

The heading of the email reads:

Thanks for reserving your iPhone. It will be here June 24.

Then the fine print reads:

Pre-authorization does not guarantee iPhone availability at an Apple Retail Store. iPhone is sold on a first-come, first-served basis.



WTH does this mean? You have one reserved, but really, you don't? lol?
 
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