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Apple Claims TSMC vs Samsung A9 Chip Variants Result in Only 2-3% Difference in 'Real World' Battery Life

I am surprised that people on eBay have not latched onto this story and starting selling iPhone 6S/6S+ based on whether it has a TMSC manufacturers chip in it for a higher price then the Samsung manufactured chip.
 
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Great. 2 things will happen.

Someone will make another app that will tell you what chip you have. Like there aren't millions of them.

OCD's will raise a stink at the Apple Store that they want only iPhones with a particular chip brand.
 
MuckSavage70 said:
Not sure what chip my phone has - but I've noticed a big loss in battery life coming from my 6.
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Same here. My 6 would typically be around 40-60% when I get home from the office depending on how much I used it during the day. My 6s is around 20-30%, and I keep it on low power mode all day.
 
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For most of us, the 14 day limit is tomorrow. Is anyone planning on taking there phone back, or has anyone done this? If so, what did Apple say or do?
 
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madKIR said:
The fact that Apple acknowledged this speaks volumes. There is a real issue out there.

I cannot believe how some people here blindly believe every single word said by Apple.
Basically, it's the iPhone 4 antenna-gate all over again!
Yes, maybe browsing the Internet and listening to the music would show the so-called 2-3% difference, but what about playing graphically intensive games or filming high-res video?!
Geekbench perfectly demonstrates that the Samsung chip would last less time. In some cases the difference is way greater than "2-3%".
I'm more than sure that when the supply constrains loosen up, they will phase out the Samsung chips entirely.
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Are you going to try and take your phone back for a replacement?
 
macfoxpro said:
For most of us, the 14 day limit is tomorrow. Is anyone planning on taking there phone back, or has anyone done this? If so, what did Apple say or do?
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Limit was actually today. The day the iPhone is delivered is day 1, not day 0. So today is day 14 and the last day to return.
 
daniesy said:
Did anyone expect Apple to confirm this (without a lawsuit)? Lol.

Talk time: Up to 24 hours on 3G
Internet use: Up to 12 hours on 3G, up to 12 hours on LTE, up to 12 hours on Wi‑Fi
HD video playback: Up to 14 hours
Audio playback: Up to 80 hours
Standby time: Up to 16 days

These are the battery claims for the 6s+. Does anyone care to challenge them? Everyone with a samsung cpu stop whining and do some actual scientific tests. You can find here how they perform the battery testing (http://www.apple.com/iphone/battery.html). However, I don't know if you noticed but they say "up to". In a way, "Up to 24 hours on 3G" is the same as "Up to 2 years on 3G". The actual value is not advertised, only the upper limit (cheap marketing scheme).

Nowadays the Apple quality seems to be a legend, whispered by the elderly at camp fires. We're paying premium prices for medium quality phones which have all sorts of problems, from backlight bleeds to finger burning and now to battery hungry cpus. These topics and conversations should not exists for a 1000euros phone! You don't hear people with Lambos complaining. I wonder when will people smarten up and start buying something else? This is the first year when the iPhone 6s is not the best kid on the block. The next years will be interesting.
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Ah, the dreaded burning fingers!.
 
terraphantm said:
What's the point since you don't believe any of the posted results are credible?
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Because you can't ;). Until the real world customers (not just one or two, if the issue was real, they would be almost 100% of the 6s/+ users out there) start complaining about the discrepancies in battery usages between the two chips, it's best to believe the best source, which is Apple. Simple.
 
ksuyen said:
Because you can't ;). Until the real world customers (not just one or two, if the issue was real, they would be almost 100% of the 6s/+ users out there) start complaining about the discrepancies in battery usages between the two chips, it's best to believe the best source, which is Apple. Simple.
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So I should take Apple's word at face value even though there is a very clear conflict of interest? Not to mention they have a history of downplaying real issues (see antennagate and bend hate).
 
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macfoxpro said:
Mine was delivered on a Friday, so tomorrow is the 14th day.
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Again, not it isn't. Apple starts the count at 1, not 0. Tomorrow will be the 15th day by their count.

If you don't believe me try returning it tomorrow. You won't be able to unless they make an exception (and they would certainly make that clear)
 
Rogifan said:
I don't think they should've responded. This wasn't really a "gate" but with Apple responding is just going to get attention it didn't have.
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Apple responded to enforce what we already knew: the A9 chip comes from two different manufacturers using two different manufacturing processes.

Who here thinks there wouldn't be some differences?

Then Apple added information about the real-world battery testing. You know Apple did these tests long ago before they even decided to use two different chip manufacturers.

I guess to Apple 2-3% real-world battery life differences is an allowable tolerance... hence why they allowed it.

But here comes all the outsiders who want to hammer the processors with synthetic tests.

I think Apple responded to get their story out in the open.

Who knows... perhaps that will help Apple when the inevitable class-action lawsuits begin.
 
I am tempted to get the GeekBench app to find out what chip is my iPhone 6S but the difference is not that very significant. I'm happy with my Plus right now and it's battery life but with all the different claims sometimes I wish I have the better one. This is the reason I don't want to find out or else I'm gonna be wishing something different.
 
terraphantm said:
So I should take Apple's word at face value even though there is a very clear conflict of interest? Not to mention they have a history of downplaying real issues (see antennagate and bend hate).
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Downplaying an "unproven" issue is within a company's right to avoid media panic. Fortunately, Apple has a history to fix any proven "real" issues. Unfortunately Apple ALSO has history of being the target of "hyperbole", "over-hype", "over-blown" non-issues. Hence, one needs to judge carefully and wisely whom to believe.
 
Here is my problem with exchanging

I have a rose gold model which is impossible to find. My deadline for replacement is tomorrow.....

Call me whatever you like but I have a huge issue paying 1000 dollars for my phone knowing I might be getting jobbed almost 2 hours of battery life while someone with the exact same phone is getting those two hours. I'll be talking to Apple and trying to find a solution.
 
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ksuyen said:
Downplaying an "unproven" issue is within a company's right to avoid media panic. Fortunately, Apple has a history to fix any proven "real" issues. Unfortunately Apple ALSO has history of being the target of "hyperbole", "over-hype", "over-blown" non-issues. Hence, one needs to judge carefully and wisely whom to believe.
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It is within their right, but it is also within our rights to be skeptical of their PR team's claims.

They did not fix the antenna or bending until the next revision of the phone. That doesn't do me any good for the phone I own today.
 
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Benjamin Frost said:
The Guardian's review of the iPhone 6s:

http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...essor-fingerprint-sensor-rubbish-battery-life

Battery life is coming home to roost for Apple. Just as BendGate led to a stronger iPhone, so BatteryGate will lead to a bigger battery in the iPhone 7.

In the meantime, Apple are now opening themselves to a class lawsuit.
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The thing I noticed is that the low power mode actually does work well when I have used it with my iPhone 6S+. Went to bed with 56% battery level and woke up in the morning with the battery level at 53% with low power mode on.
 
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