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Apple Claims TSMC vs Samsung A9 Chip Variants Result in Only 2-3% Difference in 'Real World' Battery Life
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The Guardian's reviewer got 15.5 hours of active daily use.
And he thinks that's low?
That actually sounds good to me.
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Well.. if anyone has been following my comments I went to return my phone today and get the 6S+ because I just wanted better battery life and I didn't want to get into this crazy trying to find a TSMC chip thing.
I went to the ATT store and they were sold out of everything and so I returned the phone and went to the Apple store hoping I could get a plus there and they were sold out. They had the Silver 128GB 6S like I had just returned and I begrudgingly agreed to take that. I had to get some phone after all. I figured in two weeks before my return period is up maybe they will get some Pluses in.
However, of course after I got my new 6S I had to check the chip and it IS A TSMC. So.. I will be doing some real world test with my conditions daily. Apple Watch etc... and see if it really does get better life. If it's a lot better I won't get a Plus. Because I do prefer the size of the regular size phone.
Summary: I returned and rebought and ended up with a TSMC this time. (Felt like I won the lottery) but I didn't do the return just for the chip I was trying to get a PLUS
I went to the ATT store and they were sold out of everything and so I returned the phone and went to the Apple store hoping I could get a plus there and they were sold out. They had the Silver 128GB 6S like I had just returned and I begrudgingly agreed to take that. I had to get some phone after all. I figured in two weeks before my return period is up maybe they will get some Pluses in.
However, of course after I got my new 6S I had to check the chip and it IS A TSMC. So.. I will be doing some real world test with my conditions daily. Apple Watch etc... and see if it really does get better life. If it's a lot better I won't get a Plus. Because I do prefer the size of the regular size phone.
Summary: I returned and rebought and ended up with a TSMC this time. (Felt like I won the lottery) but I didn't do the return just for the chip I was trying to get a PLUS
It makes perfect sense. Yes, the Samsung A9 is much worse at battery efficiency when running at its highest clockspeed. But the phone is very rarely at its highest clockspeed. Video is done on specialized decoding hardware, not the CPU, so video doesnt stress it. Music / UI navigation likely dont stress the CPU. What apple is saying is that only if you actually USE the CPU a whole whole lot do you see this difference. Which makes perfect sense.
And im really glad I got the TSMC
I would be as well. 2-3% ? Ok Apple.
Talking about "making up BS" - where did you pull that "Apple didn't want people finding out"-crap from?
http://www.cultofmac.com/391546/no-apple-didnt-purge-chipgate-app-from-app-store/
"Battery life is the iPhone 6S’s biggest problem. During the week the phone failed to make it past 11pm after leaving the charger at 7.30am in the morning."
That's a heck of a long day for any smartphone, especially a non-plus sized variety. Would any Android phone last that long!?
"At the weekend it spent most of the day sitting on a table untouched, but I still went to bed with only 30% charge left. Apple’s new Low Power Mode made little appreciable difference in real-world use."
iPhones have brilliant standby longevity so this idiot must have had something running in the background to lose a considerable chunk of battery life without even picking the phone up.
Personally I consider spreading false information simply based on the dislike of a company a "scumbag move".
http://www.cultofmac.com/391546/no-apple-didnt-purge-chipgate-app-from-app-store/
The biggest thing I got out of this story? For the first time ever, Apple came to Samsung's defense.
S T F U ALL -- Do you really think Apple hasn't tested this stuff. WTF. Yeah they just are bunch of unprofessional nimrods with no labs pumping out phones off 3d printers. effing dumb. they designed the entire thing down to the chip at nano scale which no one on this forum even has one effing clue how to do. S T F U macrumors is dumb for publishing this BS. get a clue and start doing some real reporting. stupid aholes. Maybe macrumors should work on writing a better parser so I can't say S T F U. But they can't because they don't do tough tech stuff, just sensational reporting. Lemmings.
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Back when I was your age, we measured our line sizes in microns because measuring things in nanometers was considered immodest. Even then we all shook with fear that this was the last process step, and that leakage would end the gravy train. I'm here to tell ya, it never happened...
TSMC and Samsung are pushing the envelope. In a few years, these problems will be remembered the way we remember the problems Intel had around 130nm and 90nm... This isn't the first sign of the apocalypse-- it's a minor blip.
Funny thing is Apple isn't the only one saying this. I watched a review from Austin on YouTube and he said pretty much the same thing.
Instead of believing some nobody on this thread why don't you do some research yourself? App dev pulled the free app himself and guess what, his $2.99 paid app is in the top 30. He's the one milking it.
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acknowledge what, that you don't have any idea about how to design something as complex as an iPhone. how would you fix it "mr I would acknowledge it" do you even have an iPhone troller, tool. 2 to 3 percent difference whatever but I am sure you recharge your iPhone (aka android teletubby security nightmare) every hour, meanwhile the rest of us place our iPhones their stands with at least 20% power before we hit the sack. -- btw I am sure your android charge lasts for like a month while it teleports your to the future and of course has a holodeck built in.
yeah he says " During the week the phone failed to make it past 11pm after leaving the charger at 7.30am in the morning" What a tool, must really bust his right hand rhythm because obviously he ain't crashing next to something more important.
? That is bad battery life not even making it 24 hours.
I get a day and a half from the 6s from my first use, but my Z5c used to get me 5 days.
The real test would be to test two new identical iPhone 6. (Yes 6) and see how they compare. Would they be the same. What's their margin of error.
I don't understand why some of you are making a big deal out of a non-issue. This is completely blown out of proportion. The fact is, both chips meet or exceed Apple's battery and performance claims. Unless you have a defective device, YOU GOT WHAT YOU PAID FOR, regardless of the manufacturer of the Apple-designed A9 SOC in your iPhone. You have no right to demand a particular chip as long as the chip that you ended up with performs at or above Apple's claims, which they BOTH do. To those wanting to return their Samsung for a TSMC--think for just a moment what you're doing. You're wasting your time, Apple's time, the cost and labor of refurbishing (well, not really refurbishing since there's no defect) that iPhone which has absolutely NOTHING wrong with it, just so you can have a 50% chance of getting a TSMC that will offer you nothing but a placebo effect, as any battery or performance difference in REAL-WORLD use is negligible and will NOT be perceptible to the end-user (you). Find something more productive to put your time and energy into. Also, I'm disappointed in the way you MacRumors have been presenting this information. You're contributing to the problem and causing unnecessary...well...everything, from whining constantly about their SOC manufacturer to iPhone returns for no valid reason other than trying to get a TSMC that will make no noticeable difference in the user's day-to-day usage. Bottom line is, they are both A9s that perform as advertised.
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This may be insignificant when the phones are new but what about when the phone is a year or two old? Will the difference be insignificant then? I don't trust that. My son was so pissed at Apple because his battery could not make it through half the day on his 1 1/2 year old iPhone 5S so I told popped for the $80 battery replacement. We took it to Apple and they said they battery was at 80% and would not call it defective. He is a heavy user as a teenager but not making it 5 hours on a full charge is ridiculous. Now my niece with her 2 year old iPhone 5 is complaining about the battery. It is the one of the biggest weak spots of the iPhones vs other phones. If I get a Samsung chip I would return the phone. It may be insignificant for a new battery but the issue can potentially get worse as the battery degrades as they all do.