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Apple.com 6/17 Online Reserve
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Yeah everything apple has ever done in the company's history has been based on Pacific time, that's a given, but the general consensus is they didn't offer any reservations this morning... so clearly it's either an issue, or a middle finger... and it's annoying because yesterday it said to check back at 12:01 am and yet again today it says the same. So I'm accepting it as a middle finger from Apple.
This is exactly how I feel.
I pre ordered from T Mobile and am still waiting on it...
I went old school and actually I camped out for my wife's AT&T phone and got her a 7+ 128GB Silver.
Come launch day, I was happy with the thought that I could use the reservation system if I missed out camping for the phone (thankful I got one), but this has been a complete s***show on Apples behalf.
Hell, no one with a 128GB or 256GB Black or JB 7+ has been charged on T Mobile pre orders yet. Ordered at 2:05 pre order night and signed contract and haven't had the order change status at all since. Terrible experience other than getting my wife's 7+.
That is sheer nonsense. New iPhones outsell Samsung's new flagships by many magnitudes on their respective launch weeks. For instance, the 6S sold more units its first 3 days than the first 3 weeks of the S7. Supply constraints are in large part, due to demand.
No it's not, stop buying into the kool aid... Apple hasn't released launch weekend figures for years... it's always just "We've sold more than we've ever sold before..." vague nonsense... kind of like "The worlds top travel destination" ... just means they find a metric to be able to use ... in this case I believe it... 5 colors, 4 carriers, 3 varients, that's 60 SKUs, yep, I believe it.
How do you think Samsung has a 54% marketshare in smartphones and Apple is stuck at 12%? You just don't see the fanfare of launches on Samsung Galaxy S flagship launches because there aren't the feeding frenzies in store. I ordered mine last year, and ordered my Nexus this year... and it's as easy as ordering toilet paper on Amazon. Apple has gotten it's flock programmed to believe they're top in the land. The US is the only market where Apple still outsells Android phones, but even that's shifting.
It's a whole different model on the Android side since more than one manufacturer makes Android devices, but the bulk of their business is Google Nexus and Samsung Galaxy Sx models... so they're fairly comparable. 3 years in a row The Galaxy S has outsold iPhone...
When you run supply chain you can make whatever you want. You control the manufacturing process. So if you want to make 1 million units you can make 1 million units. The issue comes when you need to make 10 million units for a 1 month period. Most manufacturing facilities won't do a ramp up unless it's for a longer period, say 6 months, because they need to bring in extra labor, extra machinery, etc, so it has to be cost beneficial to them. Apple likely isn't willing to commit to a much higher launch month output for 3 or 6 months because then they have an over-supply and inventory is money on a balance sheet... whereas a Samsung or Google Nexus can because they'll sell through them. Apple sales are always strong at launch then weak the 8 latter months of the year.
I tried to jump on to see if I could reserve in store but no such luck. I think I may end up going to the 7+
You clearly don't get it... supply is based on demand and demand based on supply are co-dependent factors. Both can be manipulated to make either of these headlines:
"Apple factories can't keep up with demand for new iPhone model"
"Apple fans lined up for the chance to score an elusive iPhone"
There's no shortage of supply. Supply is raw material. You can scale a factory in China to any size you want... Apple has never been good at this with iPhone because their buying cycle is so incredibly seasonal. They can't take the hit to the profit to pay the factory to produce big numbers year round, or even for six months. Let me ask you this... when was the last time you bought an iPhone in February? Or June? Thought not. And that's just 1/3 of the way into the product's lifecycle.
Apple has created an issue coming out with a new phone every year. It affects every technology manufacturer, but other manufacturers have much wider product lines they can move the manufacturing manpower to the latter parts of product cycles so they can afford to go big for launch. Apple doesn't have that luxury. I think that may be what they're trying to do with the spring launch of iPads though.. so time will tell.
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Reserve one what? Yesterday almost every store had the 7, so if that's what you meant, you're not going to have a line.
Apple announced last year they sold 13 million 6s units in 3 days. Yes, Samsung sells more phones overall, but you have to compare apples to apples here. We're talking initial launch sales of flagship, premium phones. In that category, Apple's supplies get hammered because there's simply far greater demand. That's not disputed sir.
Let me flip that for you. Apple under-orders from their supplier. Apple can order and get anything they want from their manufacturing partner. They CHOSE not to over order because of the reasons I've outlined in the way outsource manufacturing works.
The bottom line is Apple can call their manufacturer and tell them to double output for 3 or 6 months (whatever their supplier required for a minimum commitment), but they won't, because this year like every year, 6 weeks into a launch everyone will have their iPhones and the iPhone 7+ will be as stale as it is 2 weeks before the launch of the iPhone 8. Not sure why you think Apple is some charity that the manufacturers are slaving away to provide for. Apple is getting exactly what they ordered. If there were no lines in front of stores, if there were no "2-3 week delivery" on Apple's website, they would not make news... well yes they would, negative news talking about how Apple's demand is NOT growing like it did in the early days.
My friend, your facts are simply wrong and you seem to have a poor understanding of how the development and manufacturing process works. They only begin manufacturing in August. These aren't magic machines that can create things in infinite quantities.
Here's a good article to educate yourself with. No disrespect. I just want you to be better informed.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...ungs-galaxy-s7-didnt-outsell-apples-iphone-6s
Yeah you go get a degree in Supply Chain Management like I have, and then you can "educate" me on a news article posted by "Apple Insider" ... clearly you didn't get a degree in the even easy-out Journalism field because the last thing any educated person would ever do to prove a point is link an Apple Fan Site as a source of fact. It'd be like a Hillary Clinton supporter citing a CNN as fact in something against Trump. Or a Trump fan citing the Conservative Post as something against Hillary. It's ludicrous.
But to educate YOU... YES, there ARE "magic machines" it's called SCALE.
Say you want to make forks. You make forks every year but this year's fork has a special coating in addition to the same raw material as every other fork. You should have enough raw material to support the pie in the sky sales you may experience. But then you have to decide how much coating (cameras specific to this years model) you will order because you don't want too many, but you need enough. There's hurdle 1.
Then you go to your manufacturer. You tell them. I need 10,000,000 between August 15 and September 15. They say okay, and then what. You say after that I want 5,000,000 each 30 days. This means they're either going to respond and say okay we can do that for $x, or we can do that for $x with a commitment to keep that sustained production for 1, 3, 6, 12 months, etc. If you commit to it for 3 months, they bring in the labor to make 10,000,000 every 30 days, bring in the extra (magic as you call them) machinery to support the additional output. All the extra machinery and labor are very expensive, especially for Apple if it requires a long-term commitment to inventory they're not going to sell given how short iPhone product lifecycle is.
So to sum it up, "sir", I'm afraid you don't understand what you're talking about. If Apple wanted to have manufactured 100,000,000 units for the launch, they could have. Would there have been a cost to doing so? YUP! But don't act for a second like they did everything they could, because if you think that way, I suggest taking an intro to supply chain class at your local community college... or read up on it online. There's tons of articles online where you can get a basic understanding on how it works when you outsource your manufacturing. Your mindset seems to be stuck in the old ways of having in-house manufacturing where you're limited by the size of your facility, the number of people you employ, and the number of hours in the day. China has made all of these factors non-existent.
And as a word of advice.... never start a post with "My friend..." ... it just makes me cringe thinking of getting into a taxi in Vegas, or walking down the street by electronics vendors in Delhi. It's gross.
This turned into an online Business 101 course.
LOL, I'm done arguing with the guy... he doesn't get it, but it's fine, he can keep getting his news from AppleInsider haha... I didn't know MacRumors allowed competing Apple Rumor Site links to be posted.
Back on topic... so it's now 2 am and no change in the reservation page... don't think this is happening tonight. I was in Thailand when the pre-orders started (2pm their time) and in flight and the flight was originally supposed to land at 1:45 and was delayed 30 minutes. By the time I landed, I jumped on the Apple Store App and grabbed a Gold 7+ and a Silver 7+ ... the gold came Friday but since I wasn't on time the silver wont be here til the Sept 27-29 range. I thought I wouldn't mind the gold but it really annoys me... so now I need to find a second Silver 7+... now I'm left mingling with the commoners who didn't pre-order... life is so rough! HEHE
We'll be having twitter alerts when the reservation opens. (per country).
And email alerts when your model(s) is/are up in your selected stores.
From what we know since 5S, we'll end up with waves we'll be able to predict. Thus a tsunami can happen anytime (unexpected huge wave).
East coast and west coast may have different schedules / delays (like wave starts east ends west, like a real wave
)We're here for a very long run imho, worst than iPhone 6 which was very comparable, with a lot of people wanting the new Plus.
Check our twitter history for 2014... it was like a war tbh.
Keep cool, I know that's very frustrating, whatever happens, if you're here you're kind of top of the queue.
We'll see if we can add BB RS and Target again, should be ok, but take a couple of days.
Your site does something anyone can do on Apple's site... but you're actually helping Apple sell the model it likely wouldn't. If someone is shopping for a Rose Gold iPhone 7+ 128 and keeps looking and can't find it, they just keep looking... but then your site shows the store has a 256 of the same model so they get that one. LOL.
The issue is Apple has so many SKUs... between carriers, colors, size, and capacity, they have 60 skus for just the iPhone 7 Plus. That's absurd. It means when supply is scares, you are looking for the 1 of 60 skus that you want. LOL... I remember the days when it was much more simple... You have ATT black or white, 8 or 16 GB. 4 sku.
As a side note, since Apple disabled the reservation link, your iStockNow site is basically useless.
We'll be having twitter alerts when the reservation opens. (per country).
And email alerts when your model(s) is/are up in your selected stores.
From what we know since 5S, we'll end up with waves we'll be able to predict. Thus a tsunami can happen anytime (unexpected huge wave).
East coast and west coast may have different schedules / delays (like wave starts east ends west, like a real wave
We're here for a very long run imho, worst than iPhone 6 which was very comparable, with a lot of people wanting the new Plus.
Check our twitter history for 2014... it was like a war tbh.
Keep cool, I know that's very frustrating, whatever happens, if you're here you're kind of top of the queue.
We'll see if we can add BB RS and Target again, should be ok, but take a couple of days.
How do we get twitter/email alerts??
I was wondering the same thing. As far as I see all the site does is run a script scrubbing the Reserve & Pickup site for availability constantly (which is why Apple is so quick to cut it off cause that site is polling it 100 times a second)... the site is utterly useless when the reserve and pickup site is down. I see no email notification option... every launch there's one guy who does a site like this... and it tends to be as cumbersome as just going to apple's site and looking yourself, LOL
Lol chris, why so much hate.
We've been doing this for years, and mostly for free, the one ad hardly pays the server and mails processing (we pay an expensive premium delivery solution so you get them *realtime*)
Our service is helpful for some, maybe not for you, why despise it.
As for alerts and so, it's coming. If you prefer to refresh the whole day rather than get notified, up to you.
We've been doing this for years, and mostly for free, the one ad hardly pays the server and mails processing (we pay an expensive premium delivery solution so you get them *realtime*)
Our service is helpful for some, maybe not for you, why despise it.
As for alerts and so, it's coming. If you prefer to refresh the whole day rather than get notified, up to you.
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No hate, just reality, LOL. Your site shows ZERO stock of iPhone 7 nationwide, when the reality is almost every store has them. Why? Because your site relies on the same site anyone has access to and that site is not providing information right now.
You say "realtime email updates" 3 times in your reply... but as of right now there are no real-time email updates available. And you've done previous launches why would the previous email update system need to be redesigned?
Because if you ever did that you'd know it takes time to do things correctly, and we're very wary of the quality of service, especially when dealing with email adresses and sending.
But anyway, just skip it if that's not your thing. What are you looking for and where ?
But anyway, just skip it if that's not your thing. What are you looking for and where ?
The same thing everyone else is looking for ... an iPhone 7+ near me that'll beat my iPhone 7+ delivery that's on order.
I'm thankful for the service, its already helped me a lot. The apple link is a ton of clicking through to get any info, and no visualization. I realize where it pulls the info from, and thats what I want to see, so I can set the model I'm looking for and check the page for a green pin.
Hopefully you can get other retailers added soon, as well as email alerts.
I'm thankful for the service, its already helped me a lot. The apple link is a ton of clicking through to get any info, and no visualization. I realize where it pulls the info from, and thats what I want to see, so I can set the model I'm looking for and check the page for a green pin.
Hopefully you can get other retailers added soon, as well as email alerts.
Funny your profile was created yesterday and the only topic you've been talking about (nonstop) is this iStockNow site.... seems a bit suspect.