You won’t get any evidence. I’m convinced there is none. People may post a link to a podcast and say the evidence is in there! Of course that is bad faith argument. If you are going to accuse someone of offending speech you quote the actually offensive speech. The reason no one will do that is it makes them accountable for the actual words they claim are hate speech. If the words are obviously not hate speech they are shown to be lying. Or if they are borderline you could at least dialog about the intent of those particular words. But you won’t find anyone willing to quote Jones and claim that quote is hate speech.
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You won’t get any evidence. I’m convinced there is none. People may post a link to a podcast and say the evidence is in there! Of course that is bad faith argument. If you are going to accuse someone of offending speech you quote the actually offensive speech. The reason no one will do that is it makes them accountable for the actual words they claim are hate speech. If the words are obviously not hate speech they are shown to be lying. Or if they are borderline you could at least dialog about the intent of those particular words. But you won’t find anyone willing to quote Jones and claim that quote is hate speech.
So it's fine to keep radical religious hateful videos on Youtube but not Alex Jones. Slowly they'll come after everyone who doesn't agree with their kind of inclusive agenda.
No it's the sound of the whole point whizzing over your head.
90% of your comment is opinionated fluff and the other 10% doesn't even acknowledge the point I'm making, hence "whoooosh"
This is silly but what I find reeeaaally funny is thinking the phrase "inclusive agenda" is somehow nefarious. Reminds me of Sacha Baron Cohen talking to an NRA loon on his new show and saying (paraphrasing) "Is this just an attempt by Democrats to promote their anti-tragedy agenda?"
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Oh! Sorry...
I know you’re just eager to prove your intellect, but I’m well aware of the context and it doesn’t mean “the cliché is wrong.” You and everyone else understood the point I was making, which was my intent; I’m not going to go into the intracicies of First Amendment law on the MacRumors forum.
No. You tried to use "intellect" with a misplaced analogy for why the First Amendment is not without limits.
We know what’s true. See this isn’t about free speech, this is about weather or not Apple should give a platform to a proven and admitted liar like Alex Jones who has threatened and terrorized victims of mass shootings. Apple has every right to disassociate itself from that kind of vile person. He can go yell at the sky. As for your calling the russian attack on our elections a nut-job conspiracy... well the NSA, CIA, FBI, and every other intelligence agency agrees that it happened. It’s as much of a fact as anything can be. And no, I wouldn’t be “ok” with platforms banning legitimate news organizations like CNN, but they have that right. Note: Alex Jones is neither legitimate, nor news.
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You are straining at a gnat, sir. Why are you so afraid to click on a link and watch 2 short videos which I provided on post #175?
Whataboutism at its finest. Accuse others of the very thing that you are accused of in order to deflect blame without any evidentiary basis. There is so much of it on this thread it is utterly ridiculous.
Trump wasn’t running. How can you criticize cnn for not reporting the truth and not even know that Trump wasn’t running in this election? I wouldn’t say CNN was the the best news organization out there certainly, but they are at least a legitimate news organization, which strives to report the truth. That can’t be said for Fox, and it certainly can’t be said about Alex Jones. Seriously, Jones is a nut-job. He reported that Hillary Clinton was running a child sex ring out of a pizza restaurant’s basement...in a building without a basement.
Why do I feel like you have not even watched the video in question? Perhaps it is the fact that you got the direct quote wrong. The sign wasn't "die jews" it was "Death to all Jews" and when you saw PewDiePie's reaction to seeing the video for the first time, he was clearly shocked that these guys actually made that sign. It was a joke, it's hilarious. I laughed hard watching it.
Quite frankly it's not my grievance that your family was killed during the holocaust although I sympathise with your loss. I gladly pay my respects to all the victims of the holocaust especially to those soldiers who gave their lives for the greater good. However it doesn't mean that I can't laugh at a joke made to incite laughter. Hell, you think that because you don't like a joke the man who made it now has to lose his income streams as a result?
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This is clearly not "whataboutism" as you put it. It's pointing out an evident bias on the part of YouTube when it comes to terminating channels for "hate speech". If 1 channel is terminated, it means that all others who use the same types of languages about groups of people should be terminated as well.
It's not shifting the blame or deflecting away from the wrongdoing of the channel in question, it's questioning the inconsistencies on the part of YouTube. If they also removed extreme left wing channels from YouTube for the same reasons, nobody would care as much.
Yes, he still has a website, but that wasn't what I said. I said that he was denied the ability to propagate his message through social media because social media is, effectively, a virtual monopoly comprised of a handful of companies that are deciding what messages will be shared and what won't. So, he isn't truly silenced, but no one will hear him.
Again, my point isn't to defend Alex Jones - I have no use for him or the trash that he projects as "news" and the conspiracy theories he promotes. My point is about censorship in general.
And on that topic, we probably agree more than we disagree.
This is how I look at what has been done with Jones. What Apple has done is the equivalent of saying that he cannot megaphone his message on their street corner.
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Oh yeah. You compared Alex Jones to CNN.
Calling for Genocide will never be funny. EVER.
I'm not defending Alex Jones based on his content. I think his content is awful.
Accusing me of whataboutism (if that is indeed what you're doing - it's a little unclear) when I have been asked to find two comparable organisations is pretty ridiculous. Someone said anything like Alex Jones doesn't exist on the left - well, it does. My opinion on Alex Jones and his rights are completely unchanged by whether The Young Turks exist or not.
I don't even care if there are comparable people on the left. Jones being 86'd should be a victory in and of itself. If there's some wackadoo doing likewise under the guise of a librul, I'll applaud Apple, Google, et al for 86ing them too. Telling me CNN could fall under the same umbrella as Jones is not reality based thinking.
Actually it can be very funny. Perhaps not to far-left thin-skinned crybabies, but to the rest of the functioning world humour is actually a thing.
Says someone in now the second thread in which conservatives are whining endlessly about a podcast being removed from iTunes.
Oh I'm not. If you are saying there is hate speech quote it and I'll be glad to watch the video to confirm the hate speech you claim was uttered. If you can't quote it then it must not exist.
Why do you people keep calling me conservative hahahaha. I am not a conservative. I'm as centrist as they come. I don't adhere to any one particular ideology. I assess each individual issue that I am interested in and make up my own mind.
But hey, if you want to call me a conservative, that's your right to do so.
I'll be sure to let my grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins know that.
Oh, that's right, I don't have any because of a genocide.
Congrats, you are now the second denizen of my ignore list.