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Apple Confirms Mac Pro Is Dead, No Future Models Planned

just.in.time said:
Definitely the end of an era. Especially if you include the Power Macintosh line that preceded it, a very long era.
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HELL of a run. Bittersweet, tho not exactly shocking, news. Likely more a reminder of my time spent on the planet. 🤪
Form the butt of the Silicon Valley jokes, to THE high water mark, it's been a trip watching Apple, and this community, evolve. And as is with every evolution, this one wasnt' without its hiccups. But the entire arch has been something super fun to have lived with.

The first Mac I ever used was circa 1991.

The first tower I ever used was I think an 8100.

The first Mac I bought with my own hard-earned money, is still the best tower I ever used to date: a PowerMac G4 (graphite). Fresh out of art school and working in a boutique ad agency, I went into a small (but at the time, significant) debt financing a G4, scanner (remember those?), printer (ha), Cinema Display, Pro Tools LE, etc. All-in, I think I dropped around $7,500ish on that rig - but I had big dreams of world domination, so it was justified. To this day, that has been the most bulletproof rig I ever owned/operated.

The Mac I've enjoyed using most? They one I'm typing on now: an M2 MacBook Air. This thing is shockingly capable (I can only imagine what an M5 is like) and laughably light/thin. Perfectly portable and powerful. Makes my MacBook Pro feel like a cinder block.

I've worked as a creative pro since ~1998 - every second of it behind some form of Mac. Fun fact: with the exception of maybe the public library computer when I was a kid, I've only ever used Macs. Around 2008, I made my first move away form a tower and landed on a MacBook Pro. And I've not looked back. My current work computer is an M1 MacBook Pro. My current personal computer is an M2 MacBook Air.

Anyway... I owe may livelihood to Apple and, specifically, the Mac. I'll pour a lil' something out for the Mac Pro this eve.
Cheers!
 
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This is awesome news because it basically guarantees the new Mac Studio will have m5 ultra and at least 512GB of RAM as a maxed out version if not 1TB (Mac Pro maxed out at 1.5TB)
 
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visualseed said:
It will come back if and when the power and thermal requirements of the M-Ultra exceed the abilities of the studio form factor.
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I don't think so. :-( In a lot of place sin the world, power consumption is becoming as much of a factor as processing power. The reason I don't repurpose my Mac Pro 5,1 as a 24/7 server is the amount of power it consumes. Electricity is becoming expensive.

I imagine this has dawned on Apple too, a long time ago, and low power consumption will become a huge selling point. So they'll keep pushing the performance, but have, except for one or two products, a limit on how much power their products can consume.

So there might be a ridciulously power hungry Ultra machine ( currently that's the Studio M3 Ultra) but for everything else I think Apple will try to cap the power consumption.
 
kiensoy said:
Can't innovate any more my ass
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To be fair they did. The Mac Pro 2019 is my main main machine, cost me ÂŁ16k all in and I made that back with one job back then - and I am still making money with it 7 years later!

And now Apple Silicon is killing it...in the high end and now the budget end.

The main issue for me is my 7 year old GPU ( Vega 2 Duo ) is stilll just out edging a M3 Ultra... But I suspect one more thing might come for the WWDC / 50th Anniversary. M5 Ultra Studio OR even some other form factor.
 
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I feel the writing has been on the wall since the Nvidia debacle. Workstations with replaceable CPU's, GPU's, memory, storage just doesn't seem to have the same margins as a "creator" Mac Studio that'll get 5-6 years of updates before being marked as vintage. Apple has lost all interest in the HEDT space and it's a real shame for people that take advantage of longer product lifecycles.
 
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landyn said:
This is disappointing. Hopefully they will reconsider at some point in the future. I think they ought to offer a Mac Pro with one of the AI server chips they are rumored to be developing for in-house use.
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Rumours are often just rumors. Apple are not investing large amounts of money in developing "their own AI" from scratch any more. They're outsourcing it.
 
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macsimcon said:
Can someone PLEASE fire Timmy and the Executive Team? They’re all too old, too rich, and too shortsighted. They fail to understand that you supply workstations, servers, wireless access points, printers, and monitors to get EVERY customer into the ecosystem, paying for monthly services, which is where the REAL money is.

Why did Bill Gates grasp this in 1980, but Timmy hasn’t figured it out almost half a century later? Some genius.
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Microsoft supply none of these things you've mentioned, apart from the services.
 
This is so stupid! There was a market for the MacPro, but Apple didn't want that market to exist, so they intentional killed it. The 2019 MacPro was awesome and was what customers had been asking for, but it came with a RIDICULOUSLY small SSD that was locked with the stupid T2 Chip, and a very weak base GPU, with a very steep base price, even for Apple. Not to mention that $1000 stand for the very expensive overkill monitor. They also promised continued updates to the platform, which aside from 1 GPU upgrade, never came.

If they had offered the "new cheese grater" at the same value levels as the original and kept up with updates, the MacPro would have been much more popular. Apple has also let all of their Pro Apps fail. I don't feel that Final Cut or Logic are what they used to be and I miss Aperture.

The MacStudio is fine, but its successful because Apple eliminated the Pro by making the Pro the same thing as the Studio, but costing more. The studio is basically a better version of the Trash Can Mac, which itself was a re-imagining of the failed Apple Cube. I guess 3rd times the charm, as long as you devalue and dilute the thing people really want. So long MacPro, you had a great run.
 
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I figured this was going to be case since the handwriting was on the wall. At least for once Apple provided closure on the death of the Mac Pro. Now we don’t have to wonder, hope and be eternally disappointed.
 
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They couldn't help themselves with "one and done" syndrome when it came to a given generation of this product.
 
Zenman12 said:
A $7k pc? Lmao. That’s crazy.
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Why? That's Cheap! My first professional machine cost me ÂŁ280,000! A Qauntel Paint box. Then a Silcon Graphics Indigo2 for ÂŁ50k!

My current one ( a 2019 Mac Pro ) and cost ÂŁ16k and I am stlll using it.

Its funny that people balk at the price of proper pro computers but wouldn't think twice that an electrician spend ÂŁ30K on his van and the same on his tools.
 
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seek3r said:
The 2010/2012 MPs were the longest legged most upgradeable machines Apple has ever made, seriously
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The only reason I don’t use mine daily any more is the power consumption. :-( electricity is not ridiculously expensive where I live.
 
Happy_John said:
I don't think so. :-( In a lot of place sin the world, power consumption is becoming as much of a factor as processing power. The reason I don't repurpose my Mac Pro 5,1 as a 24/7 server is the amount of power it consumes. Electricity is becoming expensive.

I imagine this has dawned on Apple too, a long time ago, and low power consumption will become a huge selling point. So they'll keep pushing the performance, but have, except for one or two products, a limit on how much power their products can consume.

So there might be a ridciulously power hungry Ultra machine ( currently that's the Studio M3 Ultra) but for everything else I think Apple will try to cap the power consumption.
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That’s all well and good, but even with Apple silicon, each generation has significantly increased the maximum wattage. The M4 Ultra (based on its core count) is predicted to consume approximately 380 watts. This represents a 30-watt increase over the M3 Ultra and a 165-watt increase from the M1 Ultra. It also surpasses the 370-watt power supply found in the current studio setup. While we are not yet in Intel Xeon territory, Apple is not immune to the laws of thermal dynamics. More cores equate to more power and more heat, which necessitates more cooling. I believe the studio form factor will reach its maximum capacity at around 500 watts before a new case design becomes necessary. Consequently, I anticipate that the M4 Ultra will require at least a 400-watt power supply, possibly more. Capping the power draw inherently limits the performance, rendering the machine dead in the water for professionals.
 
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