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You can't be proud of being straight.. it's sexist and mysoginyistic and racist and deplorable. if you're not in a minority, you're not allowed to have pride.
A derogatory exaggeration by somebody who evidently dislikes any symbol that supports gay rights.

If we didn't have unsavoury people in this world that look down on minority's then we wouldn't need symbols and gestures to help make people feel welcome.
 
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A derogatory exaggeration by somebody who evidently dislikes any symbol that supports gay rights.

If we didn't have morons in this world that look down on minority's then we wouldn't need symbols and gestures to help make people feel welcome.

The homophobia on this forum is shocking. I am so disheartened by it. I am heterosexual. I can't imagine how awful it must feel to read the many abhorrent messages in this thread if one falls within the LGBTQ bracket.
 
A derogatory exaggeration by somebody who evidently dislikes any symbol that supports gay rights.

If we didn't have unsavoury people in this world that look down on minority's then we wouldn't need symbols and gestures to help make people feel welcome.
I have no problem with gay rights, gay people, etc. If you want to get married to your Mac, Dog, or iPhone go for it, whatever floats your boat.
 
I have no problem with gay rights, gay people, etc. If you want to get married to your Mac, Dog, or iPhone go for it, whatever floats your boat.
As a gay person I don't want that kind of "support". You equating those things to gay marriage is demeaning and condescending. If I get married to a man that is in no way different to your marriage to a woman, period.
 
You can't be proud of being straight.. it's sexist and mysoginyistic and racist and deplorable. if you're not in a minority, you're not allowed to have pride.
Staight pride is being able to walk down the street holding hands, being able to marry, not having to justify yourself for a part of yourself you didn't change. Straight pride is never struggling to accept your sexuality because you know society accepts it without question.
 
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No it doesn't. If you're the group with the power (in this case straight cis people have the power because they have no fear of being harassed or assaulted when in public with their partner, whereas non-straight couples typically are not able to show affection in public to say the least and trans people basically struggle with anything in public) then you need no special recognition. LGBTQ people are searching for acceptance and equality and this is one way that they can show they are fighting and for people to show their support.

Almost any political issue is nuanced, but for me, if you don't support LGBTQ rights you are wrong, period. Like, this shouldn't even be a political issue. Mind your own business and don't worry about who people love or how people choose to express themselves. Go enjoy life some, and then go work to fix some real issues.

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. This has actually been on my mind quite a bit recently. Weird place to let it out I have to say...

[I'm not in the LGBTQ community so please do tell me if I'm wrong or need to fix any nuance.]

Just wondering if Apple made a Jewish watchband, or a watchband that celebrates the struggles of the Native American people? Don't think LGBTQZS has been through nearly as much as what many other groups have gone through, and are not recognized. This is just politics, and Apple needs to stay away.

Edit: P.S. I wish everyone would stop showing affection in public. Gay and Straight.
 
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So Apple has a right to promote what they wish, huh? Ok, so they can promote gays with a rainbow watch band, fine. BUT, a cake shop CAN'T promote what THEY wish

Poor analogy. Apple isn't turning customers away saying they won't cater to their kind. They will sell all of their products to all who come in.

Why would I think businesses should be able to discriminate based on race? That has nothing to do with religion... Therefore, it is unjust

How in the world is it not equally unjust to the gay couple being turned away? :rolleyes: And the notion that they would just be directed to another baker fails hard if you are the only baker in town and there isn't another one. Then what? Or forget cakes, what if we are talking hotel rooms and there is no other hotel for hundreds of miles?

Edit: P.S. I wish everyone would stop showing affection in public. Gay and Straight.
Hop in a time machine because that's never going to happen. Although really, why would you expect married couples to just act as friends. No hand holding? No romantic sunset walks on the beach? No peck on the cheek? Also, weddings are often in public places, should the couple in question just shake hands on their big day as if they just closed a business deal? LOL

Yeah, not happening.
 
I see no problem with this and I hope, as an Apple shareholder, that Apple makes custom watchbands for many different groups (both liberal and conservative) as an income source.

An "NRA" watchband would do very well :D.
 
Some of those boxes need to be unchecked, and this "privilege" stuff is just another made up item by the left to justify their actions.
Not sure what you mean? Some of those boxes need to be unchecked for you? Or you don't think there is any privilege associated with some of those categories.

I think the purpose of the whole "privilege" thing is to point out that if you haven't experienced it, you wouldn't understand. Admittedly I can check most of those boxes, but for the boxes I can't check I also acknowledge that things are much better today thanks to people who have fought hard to make things better.
 
That's not logic at all and doesn't follow from what I said.

The difference is that privilege does exist based on race, gender, etc. It's silly to argue otherwise. You don't even believe what you said.

Maybe you should post up links to your studies that prove this?
 
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As a gay person I don't want that kind of "support". You equating those things to gay marriage is demeaning and condescending. If I get married to a man that is in no way different to your marriage to a woman, period.
It's condescending to you that I could care less if someone wants to mary a man, woman, or object? Who cares? Let people live and respect each other. If you're not causing physical harm to someone else, then move on. Two men or women getting married is not causing me physical harm, so therefore I do not care. We are all human and if thats how those two people want to live their lives let them go ahead and do so.

Sorry you find my outlook / support on your lifestyle "demeaning and condescending". I respect your lifestyle, always have, and always will; even if it's not something that I chose to adopt into my own life.

My point that I was trying to make, was really how divided the left has managed to split up our country into tiny voting blocks and have companies take stances. I think companies should stay out of all politics as it is divisive and only stirs the pot.
 
My point that I was trying to make, was really how divided the left has managed to split up our country into tiny voting blocks and have companies take stances. I think companies should stay out of all politics as it is divisive and only stirs the pot.
I am amazed that you see this as a liberal issue and not a bi-partisan one. Especially considering the work conservatives have done to give companies more power in politics (Citizens United, Hobby Lobby, etc.) and continue the decline of cross-party cooperation in Congress. (Garland, Gorsuch, Healthcare, etc.)
 
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I am amazed that you see this as a liberal issue and not a bi-partisan one. Especially considering the work conservatives have done to give companies more power in politics (Citizens United, Hobby Lobby, etc.) and continue the decline of cross-party cooperation in Congress. (Garland, Gorsuch, Healthcare, etc.)
Citizens United has destroyed this country; and I am completly against it. Just becuase I am a Trump supporter does not mean I am a republican. I actually voted for Obama in the previous two elections. I have made comments on here saying Apple should stay out of politics, and I HATE that every company gets on a soapbox and their CEO comes out with a little hashtag to try and support something. Leave it alone - this used to be a taboo in this country - discussing political affilation. Now it's tied into everything that we do. You even have to be careful about "offending" someone over the internet and in just regular conversation these days.


The left in my opinion, has divided people up among race, gender, religion, sexual orentation, and sexual preference. This is what bothers me most about the left, along with their "privliage" talks. I am straight and white, and pretty socially liberal - however; I have noticed a STRONG message from the left of things being handed to me becuase I am straight and white. This "white privliage" has got to go from the left. I have worked my butt off to be where I am in my career. Nothing was handed to me due to my gender, race, oreientation, etc, as I have had to climb uphill battles most of my life- sure, I could of sat back and played the victim - but you know? I never did. I kept pushing forward.

Companies taking stances like this bother me in general. I am not for giving companies power of our government what so ever. However the left with the constant seperation of regular americans and their white privliage stance has completly lost my vote; along with the sticking up for illegal aliens who have committed a crime by just entering illegally over regular Americans.

I wish I had another party option - I wanted to vote for Libertarian, but Gary Johnson I thought was even more crazy than Trump or Bernie; and Hillary in my opinion, was how most people look at Trump. The Devil.
 
It's condescending to you that I could care less if someone wants to mary a man, woman, or object? Who cares? Let people live and respect each other. If you're not causing physical harm to someone else, then move on. Two men or women getting married is not causing me physical harm, so therefore I do not care. We are all human and if thats how those two people want to live their lives let them go ahead and do so.

Sorry you find my outlook / support on your lifestyle "demeaning and condescending". I respect your lifestyle, always have, and always will; even if it's not something that I chose to adopt into my own life.

My point that I was trying to make, was really how divided the left has managed to split up our country into tiny voting blocks and have companies take stances. I think companies should stay out of all politics as it is divisive and only stirs the pot.

I believe they're saying that equating marriage to another human being to marrying an animal or object is demeaning. This isn't about being radical - it's about simple, human rights, regardless of orientation.
 
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