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Apple Confirms Sales of Apple Watch Pride Edition Band Will Support LGBTQ Groups
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It certainly is. You made up a quote for Apple. So I did exactly the same for you.
You did not appreciate it when it was done to you. It follows that you do not like the taste of your own medicine.
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Yeah cause straight people are discriminated against based on their sexual orientation every single day.
Spoken as someone who knows absolutely nothing about the history of gay rights. Do you even know how pride parades came into being? Go research.
I pray that you will see the error of your religious judgements.
Although it is rather amusing that someone can think love between two men or two women is "immoral". No. You know what is immoral? Trying to pretend to be something you are not. Allowing society to dictate to you, giving into peer pressure, marrying someone you don't want to be with, and then getting a divorce later on after the unhappiness just becomes too much. Not fair to the spouse at all. That, is what is immoral.
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That's non-sense as well, please read a dictionary. Pride - 'a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one own's achievements' - how you would link this to not be stepped on or pushed aside is a riddle to me.
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Yes in the artificial world of an American - thank you for making my point. The use of the word pride is used carelessly on a daily basis like toilet paper. I rest my case.
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I believe you can send a different and stronger message to oppressors and don't need to parade around proclaiming you are proud about your sexual orientation. The interpretation of that message is simply incorrect although of course I understand the points above as the incorrect usage of the word is commonly accepted by the average commoner.
Saying that, because of the above it is easy to win over the average smaller minded person to the extent of control by creating the illusion of something greater that you can take pride in. It is funny how the same methods used and work in terrorist groups and regimes such as China, Russia (any other questionable regime) and in the US on a daily basis. Any way, this is going way too far now, I am out
You are confusing 'jingoism' with pride, for you can not ever call the feelings for a people for their country, like in China, and Russia that you mention, 'pride' when it's driven out of fear of persecution, imprisonment, and death.
and, perhaps a more formal definition.
Jingoism also involves domestic policy, for these jingoists will attack people inside their own country as quickly as someone outside it, and also extends to people that are viewed as being 'different'. Cultural homogenization is reinforced by the TV shows that people are fixated on. Reality TV is a disease, and the backers and producers know it.
Think of that the next time our president speaks. He is a demagogue and a jingoistic simpleton.
There is no such thing as an average human being, let alone "an average commoner" or "an average smaller minded person". If you explain yourself through nonsensical phrases, it is not surprising that you do not have a credible position in this debate.
Thankfully, your interpretation of the efficacy of LGBTQ parades in fighting against prejudices has no bearing on anybody in any community.
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Yes, I have always found it 'convenient' that the people that want to run the nation by the 'holy book' don't realize everything in it.
Homosexuality is not referenced in it. But there is a lot about targeting thine enemies, and slaying, and rape, dismemberment, burning people, torturing people, hate and loathing.
And those same people say that Islam is evil. Enough evil can be found in most religions to make them repugnant to a successful and functioning society.
There isn't an 'average human being', but there is an 'approved American human being' or so it seems and it is a white, male, heterosexual, brown hair, white teeth, overweight, 'christian', married, 5' 9", blue eyes, smoker, hard liquor drinking, country music loving, hunter, non-recycler, motorcycle riding, Fox News devoted, nothing past high school educated, wide eyed jingoist. If you ain't that, you ain't poop on a paper plate in Donald Trump's America. The key feature being 'obedient', 'frightened', and 'unquestioning'.
Apple offers a wide selection of mono-tone bands to choose from to express your singular orientation.
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I did. The word "pride" has several definitions. If your dictionary only contains one, perhaps you need another, more comprehensive volume.
Here is the solution to your riddle:
"a becoming or dignified sense of what is due to oneself or one's position or character; self-respect; self-esteem."
"a high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit,or superiority"
The pride is strong in this one.
It is honestly a sad thing that people are so uncomfortable with certain segments of a population adopting a symbol, and a corporation making a product based on that symbol. I mean, there are companies who make their living selling only American flags, or crucifixes, or tshirts with political statements on them. Should they all be required to sell products covering all identities, races and creeds? Why should Apple be held to a different standard? Why is it okay that charities themselves only represent one interest, why don’t they try to help everybody? Don’t you see how absurd that notion is? Ask yourself, if Apple made a band with an American flag, or a Christmas themed watch band, would you start a thread about it? Probably not.
I doubt your discomfort isn’t with Apple making this band, it is with the cause the band represents in your mind. Apple putting this band out mingles the identities of “Apple owner” and “gay rights supporter” causing cognitive dissonance. I would honestly be totally fine if you just came right out and said “The idea of gay sex makes me uncomfortable. I don’t like the idea of it, and it makes me feel gross.” I can’t judge your feelings about that, just ask that you understand that it isn’t okay to restrict other people’s behavior based on your discomfort. I am really uncomfortable with religion, but I don’t ask others to stop practicing it based on my discomfort. Live and let live.
This is what a lot of the right is experiencing these days: The Distress of the Privileged | The Weekly Sift
I doubt your discomfort isn’t with Apple making this band, it is with the cause the band represents in your mind. Apple putting this band out mingles the identities of “Apple owner” and “gay rights supporter” causing cognitive dissonance. I would honestly be totally fine if you just came right out and said “The idea of gay sex makes me uncomfortable. I don’t like the idea of it, and it makes me feel gross.” I can’t judge your feelings about that, just ask that you understand that it isn’t okay to restrict other people’s behavior based on your discomfort. I am really uncomfortable with religion, but I don’t ask others to stop practicing it based on my discomfort. Live and let live.
This is what a lot of the right is experiencing these days: The Distress of the Privileged | The Weekly Sift
It's enhanced victimization. So many groups are throwing the victim card in to the mix to somehow gain sympathy, and get their way. It's somehow forgotten that that hippie Jesus washed the feet of a prostitute, and actually hung around curing the sick, and talked about how the rich should support the poor and disadvantaged because by lifting them up, they lift themselves up to. But that's just 'hippie dippie' talk there... What Jesus really wanted to do was stone that whore to death, and smite the sick because they deserved it by not having the sense to be rich, young, and white. What he wasn't... Religion has been stretched to the breaking point in this country to cover a hell of a lot of evil. It's pretty disgusting what 'religious people' are doing in their 'gods' name. Who knew Satan was so powerful.
[doublepost=1498334620][/doublepost]I worked at a Big Ten university in the 80's, and found out that most of the people that worked there were gay. One of the other people working there was a fundamentalist religion (cult) attending woman, who on finding out that most of the people she came to know as friends were gay, warped her religious dogma around them saying that their fire and brimstone preacher, who was VERY homophobic, 'obviously' didn't mean these gay heathens, because these gay heathens wouldn't hurt a fly. The director of the department was also a married gay man who had three kids, and that didn't seem to bother her that much, once she got past the 'what is a gay man doing being married to a straight woman and having kids' question. (Probably the same reason a fire and brimstone believing fundamentalist 'christian' woman was doing working in a den of (burning in hell) gays: It paid well)
Fact: Most of those (burning in hell) gays were in monogamous relationships were in their relationships far longer than MOST of the heterosexual couples I knew had been married. Ms Fire and Brimstone was between her second marriage, and her third, while stalking her first two ex-husbands. (It was so hysterical to watch. Made it so entertaining to come to work. (Once the police showed up!) She thought 'her god' was okay with her stalking them, surprisingly)
Hint: If you think that the only thing that you have to fear is gays, and Muslims, I'd really like to live in your world, because my reality is filled with concerns about a red neck shooting my windows out, the international chemical plant up the road having an 'exposure incident', one of their trucks has an accident and releases some really heinous crap in my yard, a plane from the huge airport lands in my backyard, the fundamentalist church (CULT/Madrassa) realizes I live next door to them and rains 'God's Retribution' down on me and my pets, the Nazi up the street realizes that he can hunt all the unarmed blacks he wants now, the guy three blocks up who loves driving his truck around on the weekends flying the American and 'stars and bars' quitters flag can now add guns to his cheesy little display, and the president (or one of his hand picked mental patients) decides to start World War III, among a wider variety of things.
There is so so so so much more than Teh Gays to be fretting about. Heck, soon this country will be the Chihuahua of the world, and everyone will laugh at us as we roll in our own poop, and collectively lick our own butts...
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Was this supposed to be a response to me? Because if so, you formatted it wrong and made me look like I said words that I never said.
Only the first sentence is mine. So assuming the rest was a reply to me, how would you know what other conversations I have ever had with anyone ever before? That's an awfully big assumption.
Again, you need to look up the history of gay pride events. There is a reason the word pride was used. Because for so many years people had tried to shame gay people.
Was this supposed to be a response to me? Because if so, you formatted it wrong and made me look like I said words that I never said.
Only the first sentence is mine. So assuming the rest was a reply to me, how would you know what other conversations I have ever had with anyone ever before? That's an awfully big assumption.
Again, you need to look up the history of gay pride events. There is a reason the word pride was used. Because for so many years people had tried to shame gay people.
I was hesitant to order until I read this about them donating some proceeds to lghbtq groups. Ordered the pride band and a product red silicon case for my 7 plus. Picked up a product red smart cover for my ipad on friday. I like red 
the cover was 75% off or something and my old blue was worn out, more brown and gray with stains and fat from my fingers. It has served me well for years but now it broke and the magnetic flap was tearing off the cover.
the cover was 75% off or something and my old blue was worn out, more brown and gray with stains and fat from my fingers. It has served me well for years but now it broke and the magnetic flap was tearing off the cover.
It's not a sin at all. It's just different to your sexuality and they tend to be a lot less judgmental and a lot more tolerant of those with opposing lifestyles. The sooner out if date views like yours are eradicated, the better.
I guess it's a "sin" when your life is defined by a two thousand years old user manual. You'd think we'd get more "advanced" as centuries go buy, as science progresses and technology is so prominent. Nope. Still as primitive as ever.
There are always, in every society, people that are afraid of upsetting their deity. Such is the power of fear.
I remember, in college, having a prof that asked how anyone in a less advanced civilization could ever know what a member of a more advanced civilization would want them to do. He went on the idea that any lower civilization would position the advanced person as a deity. Imagine showing up in 'cave man times' with a Bic lighter. You could call upon fire at will (until the gas ran out). You could rule the very primitive world, and everyone would bow to your rule. The minions would spend an inordinate amount of time trying to 'please' you, and figuring out what to do to curry your favor. The people would start all kinds of rituals in an attempt to prove that they were the one, or the group, that deserved your blessing of fire. They would construct a system (or systems) of individual management in their society to divide the people into believers and non-believers. There would be a system of punishments for those non-believers and rewards for the 'true believers'. Schizms in the ranks of the believers would develop as groups divided along their beliefs. Frantic groups would come up with methods to both prove their devotion, but also publicly punish the non-believers. All the while driving deep divisions in their society.
THAT is how superstition comes to rule, and ultimately destroy a society.
We learned of an isolated group of people in Africa that had an agrarian based life, and the wildfires that destroyed their only food source. The villages were in danger of being wiped off the face of the Earth. But *something* had to be done. It was decided that planes would airdrop food to the people in an attempt to 'save them'. But in the end, it failed horribly. The villagers were so thankful of the amazing food that fell from the sky, that they setup shrines to the 'sky gods' that delivered that most wonderful food to them. The next year, they actually burned their own crops to bring the food from their sky gods again. When the food didn't come, they took that as a sign that some of their village had been 'bad', and started killing those they thought a hindrance to the return of the food. That was superstition in action. Sociologists were amazed that a near religion had been created by the primitive people around the 'sky god' that delivered food. Their society eventually died out. How can a mere mortal know the intentions of a deity. At what length would they go to prove their devotion to that deity. When will people get the clue that 'playing god' has rather obvious consequences.
Agreed. Two thousand years ago: very few people could read or write, thought earth was flat, sick people were bled to cure illness, didn't know about germs, thought earth was center of the universe, and on and on.
Per Wikipedia, in the 1500s, Copernicus was criticized for violating scriptures when he proposed that the earth revolves around the sun and is not at the center of the universe: .......the theory also conflicted with the theology of the time, as can be seen in a sample of the works of John Calvin. In his Commentary on Genesis he said that "We indeed are not ignorant that the circuit of the heavens is finite, and that the earth, like a little globe, is placed in the centre."[113] In his commentary on Psalms 93:1 he states that "The heavens revolve daily, and, immense as is their fabric and inconceivable the rapidity of their revolutions, we experience no concussion.... How could the earth hang suspended in the air were it not upheld by God's hand? By what means could it maintain itself unmoved, while the heavens above are in constant rapid motion, did not its Divine Maker fix and establish it."
So, in the 21st century, I am suppose to guide my life by the rantings of people that blindly follow two thousand year old text that is suppose to explain all of existence, but doesn't even get the most basic operation of the solar system right. Not to mention that this text sanctioned other norms of the time, like slavery. Sorry, I am ok with looking to the stories of the bible as parables (but not historical record of fact) that teach some important lessons....kind of like Aesop's fables, but they have to be taken in the context of the times.
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It is hysterical the number of vehemently anti-gay pastors and religious leaders that turn up to have accounts at rentboy and grinder.
I knew this fixation on teh gay wouldn't help for them...
This is almost always the case. No normal straight guy cares enough to have this topic on his mind nonstop, even if he doesn't believe being gay is right. I had a neighbor that would harass me and call me a f*g all the time while we were teenagers... turns out now he's admitted he's gay. Also, you don't have to look very far - a certain someone railed against gays in another recent thread here in PRSI, but when the topic came up about his own potential attractions to guys he went silent. These people have internal battles with their own identity and CAN'T STAND that other out LGBT people are living their lives authentically. It creates a jealousy and an anger that emerges as lashing out against gays.
So off topic, and not making any points. Congratulations?
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Yup, that went right over your head as well!
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Does it donate a percentage of the sales to "only straight people?"
The point was on topic and it was made in the quotes. Read them again if you didn't understand.