Getting back on track, I personally think the watchband looks pretty good for a casual wear weekend band. My guess is that it will age well too; if wearing it helps raise awareness of diversity and equality, all the better.
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Apple Confirms Sales of Apple Watch Pride Edition Band Will Support LGBTQ Groups
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Sorry, but the poster asked posed a question , which you decided to turn into into a agenda. In this case you are part of the problem. Asking why only certain special editions exists is not discriminating against that edition . If Apple supports LGTBQ, great, though people have a right to ask why other groups are not supported ....it raises the questions of favouritism. There is a lot of discrimination out there... I worked got the BBC, and there was clear direction we could not show favouritism to any groups, and had to be impartial, how you understand why this is important?
Anyway this thread is about to becomes an agenda minefield.
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Spot on. This is a massive global issue.
Right? I'm still looking for that answer. Of course, those who believe being gay is a choice have no problem getting it up for either sex in order to make their "choice" to be straight in the first place, so not sure they would know.
You don't get to determine who is oppressed or not oppressed based on nothing whatsoever. You *think* you know other people's situations when in reality you have no idea. If people want to wear rainbow watch bands that's fine with me, but you will do yourself a favor if you stop making assumptions about other people based on skin color, and gender and all that. Doing that makes YOU *racist* and *biased* and all those other things I'm sure you dislike so much. Just a heads up.
Ow god...
I said that this kind of stuff like stupid parades and watch bands etc. is a not the way to make people accept you. I am fine with gay people. Those gay people who dont' give a flock about what others think and live their life like EVERY OTHER PERSON. Those gay people who don't dress like they want to become a rainbow just to show people THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT. IT WILL MAKE IT WORSE. You know why? Because people don't like change.
Let's be realists here.
Okay this is ridiculous. Where would it end? You want Apple to produce an Apple Watch band for every single minority group in the world? Apple's supply chain would spend its entire time making straps! The LGBTQ strap represents probably the most significant, and widespread, of these modern day issues/groups and is also one personally advocated by Tim Cook, the CEO of...Apple!
So if Apple had a Minority Rights-watch strap, it'd be "funny" that they can't have a KKK-watch as well? Those poor KKK members are being discriminated as well! We just want equality here!
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When both groups are at equal level, your argument works. But right now it's 1 vs -1. Now you're just being that jealous rich kid who wants an ice cream for nothing just because some poor kid who passed an exam got one.
Good for Apple.
Supporting equal rights is something we should all want. We all have to live together. And there's plenty of evidence around that that fight for equality is far from over.
Supporting equal rights is something we should all want. We all have to live together. And there's plenty of evidence around that that fight for equality is far from over.
This is an open door for 3rd party manufacturers. Apple doesn't have an exclusive market of being the only company that can manufacture bands.
If Apple is making money from a small demographic of a social group of 2% how much more can be made for larger groups.
If Apple were to celebrate something only for straight people, it would cause an outrage. So how is it ok for Apple to have something that only benefits gay people? I thought we're all trying to come together as one? This is a very simple concept that for some reason only works one way in your eyes.
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Wrong, I said: "Let's do something for everyone."
In case you can't read.
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That's not my argument nor what I want. What I'm saying is, if a company announced that it was doing something only for straight people, it would cause chaos! Whats next Apple? Celebrating only a certain race? Christians only? Gays only?...
I hope for your sake you've never worn mixed fabrics or eaten bacon, otherwise you'll find out for yourself just how hot hell is when your time is up.
I am straight, I know a lot of gay friends, it is me who has the pride watch strap, who organises going to pride parades and talks about inequality, why? Because i've seen the stress, the bullying, the misogyny and the violence my friends have put up with for trying to find someone to love and I am there to support them in any way I can, THAT is why i am proud of wearing the pride colours.
It shocks me how people can be so closed minded, everyone should be able to love whomever they fall in love with no matter who they or thier partner are.
The argument about why not a straight watch strap, come on people! We had a similar issue in my hometown of Leeds where a railway bridge which went over the street where the majority of gay clubs are in the city was re-painted with rainbow colours we had the same complaints of where is my straight bridge!
FFS, if you want equality and this is your argument, fine! Get beaten up by people randomly when you're with your partner, live a part of your life afraid what your parents are going to say when you tell them you're straight, get banned from a place of worship for being straight, have to fight for the right to marry your straight partner then I agree once you have done that and more, heck i'll pay apple myself to design the hetero watch band with two straight lines down it!
It shocks me how people can be so closed minded, everyone should be able to love whomever they fall in love with no matter who they or thier partner are.
The argument about why not a straight watch strap, come on people! We had a similar issue in my hometown of Leeds where a railway bridge which went over the street where the majority of gay clubs are in the city was re-painted with rainbow colours we had the same complaints of where is my straight bridge!
FFS, if you want equality and this is your argument, fine! Get beaten up by people randomly when you're with your partner, live a part of your life afraid what your parents are going to say when you tell them you're straight, get banned from a place of worship for being straight, have to fight for the right to marry your straight partner then I agree once you have done that and more, heck i'll pay apple myself to design the hetero watch band with two straight lines down it!
They are available only from Apple so no, they won't be as Apple do not have a store or ship from their website there.
https://locate.apple.com/sa/en/
What a silly argument. The old "if you can't fix all problems, then don't try to fix anything" meme. Apple chooses to work on several problems across the world. Why do they have to do something about whatever you care about?
I'm sure Bob appreciates your support! But he still wants some potatoes.
I'd argue that LGBT issues are inherently about sexism. Different rules and different accepted roles for different people based on their genitalia.
If you cut the marriage debate down to it's bare bones, it's about whether two people living together can get the same rights under the law regardless of their sex.
You have a truly baffling ability to ignore the answers to your questions as you keep asking them over and over again.
Along those lines, I was talking to a rather self-righteous religist a number of years ago at a place I worked at, and they mentioned that the idea of gays 'marrying' was abhorrent to them. I mentioned that they themselves had been married a number of times, and wondered how gay marriage played a roll in their life. They said that it didn't. They just 'fell out of love', to which I said that it just sounded like 'serial monogamy' in that they got married just as a cover to have sex, and when the marriage got inconvenient, they bolted. I could tell I hit the nail squarely. End of conversation. But that was one of my last days working there, so I was happy to leave on that note. I was so fed up with the false piety...
Some of the more 'christian' things this person said and did were to tell me that they were surprised I didn't burst into flames when I said that I went to church for a wedding. Nice person, huh. A good German, or 'christian'?
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Actually the Bible that American Taliban seek to beat others to death with DOES say those things. Sorry...
oppression? go to north korea or the middle east......I think people will see the real meaning of oppression, something a watch band has no meaning. For apple this is about MONEY.
It actually really does not. Youre referencing Old Testament but Jesus made some updates.
How on earth does this remotely even attempt to make sense?
Educate me - how are you oppressed? Moreover, how is any white, straight male oppressed based on their race or sexual orientation? How does society put you down, and what rights do you not have that others do?
Someone said "Happy Holidays" to him instead of "Merry Christmas".
In your previous post, you attributed a quote to Apple, which was fabricated. Your post read:
Apple says, "lets do something that only benefits gays."
Apple has never uttered this sentence.
Now, a fabricated quote has been attributed to you, and you are claiming that that is "wrong". If you think that fabricating quotes is wrong, then you should not do it in the first place. You do not like the taste of your own medicine.
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Funny story: There was a 'white power/pro-gun' thing on the Mall in DC the last time I was there. It was hilarious. It was about a dozen, possibly more, people that looked like their picture should be on a wall in a police station for child sexual assault, milling around pointing out people that were walking by and making rude comments about them. They harassed a particularly cute woman that walked by, who shot them 'the bird', and resulted in what you would expect from a group of 'empowered' troglodytes. One even started following her. Yeah, that was 'white power'. They even yelled at a black guy that walked by that commented that 'their movement was dead, otherwise there would be more people there'. He also told them to go back to their mother's basement, which I found incredibly funny. None of them looked like they had been outdoors in a long time. But I kept walking. Before they were out of view, I took a quick picture of them, for 'posterior', oops, posterity. One of them saw me trying to take the picture and gave me the finger.
Such impudent rage... I wondered if his mom did know where he was...
And I thought that 'deplorables' didn't go far enough. 'Reprobate' maybe? It means 'predestined for damnation'.