Not all phones have Facetime, only iPhones do. And as previously mentioned, my Macbook has Facetime, does not mean it is a phone.
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Apple Considering 4.7" and 5.7" Screens for 2014 iPhone Models, iPhone 5S and Low-Cost iPhone Due in September
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Not all phones have Facetime, only iPhones do. And as previously mentioned, my Macbook has Facetime, does not mean it is a phone.
Lets be honest here; Apple needs bigger devices so they can fit larger batteries. From what I've seen so far, iOS 7 is a battery hog.
Enough to you, not enough for the majority.
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The S4 is overselling the S3, your argument is moot.
Because they want to still *dictate* what's good.
2007: "We introduced iPhone - it's the best. Everyone else will try something, but this is the best.".
Well, everyone else is doing what you do now, minus iOS...and people LIKE DIFFERENT FORM FACTORS NOW, because there's a choice.
I totally agree with you. Apple needs to offer a bigger screen size. They're not really "setting the bar" anymore as far as the form factor of the physical product.
Having said all of that, my next phone will be a 5S. lol
Why does the idea of a larger screen upset so many people? I would personally like to at least have the option.
Apologies if this has been covered in the preceding 15 pages of discussion (!), but I think there are a lot of people who would gladly buy an iPad mini that could send and receive voice calls (from real phone numbers, not just Skype). Stop thinking about using the iPad mini as a traditional phone, clamped to the side of your head. Instead think about the rumored iWatch. What if that device could act as a bluetooth device paired with your iPad? Reach up and place your hand on your cheek, and start talking. Is that any less natural or goofy than talking into a bluetooth dongle shoved in your ear, or into a mini-mic on your headphones?
When the iPad came out with the camera, a lot of people ridiculed the notion that anyone would dare look foolish enough to use it in public to take video or photos, but everywhere I travel I see people doing exactly that (20,000 photos uploaded from iPads to Flickr yesterday, in fact).
I think if an iPad or iPad mini could act as a "real" phone, I'd probably ditch my iPhone in order to carry just the one device. Hmmm. Maybe that explains why they haven't already done this....
I'd love it!
I would love to have a bigger screen. I had the HTC One for a while and it was an *absolutely* beautiful phone. Screen was amazing, sound was amazing....everything was amazing...besides the software. .I just wish it ran iOS!
I would love to have a bigger screen. I had the HTC One for a while and it was an *absolutely* beautiful phone. Screen was amazing, sound was amazing....everything was amazing...besides the software. .I just wish it ran iOS!
you mean to say, "im glad that reporters are making stories that apple is taking notes and giving what the consumers want, except that they aren't, and will continue with the business model that has made them the most valuable company in the world, which is the make products they themselves want, which happen to sell like crazy, because apple knows what things should be like."
they thought of what you "want" and what you "need" before you knew you needed it. that has been their business model for decades. why are they all of a sudden going to say "yaknow, this has worked to build us 11 billion in cash, so now let's completely stray from that, and start making what other people are making and what people "think" that they want! that'll be a huge success!
i don't know how long you've been following apple, but it's obviously not been very long if you think apple gives a **** what google is doing (aside from protecting their patents)
you can have 1% of the market share, and evvvveryone's money, and be perfectly fine with that.
they thought of what you "want" and what you "need" before you knew you needed it. that has been their business model for decades. why are they all of a sudden going to say "yaknow, this has worked to build us 11 billion in cash, so now let's completely stray from that, and start making what other people are making and what people "think" that they want! that'll be a huge success!
i don't know how long you've been following apple, but it's obviously not been very long if you think apple gives a **** what google is doing (aside from protecting their patents)
you can have 1% of the market share, and evvvveryone's money, and be perfectly fine with that.
I'm really glad that Apple is taking notes and giving what the consumers want.
First they've adopted Android's software with the iOS 7 and now they're adopting the hardware portion.
Google has Apple's full attention now, which is a good thing. Losing market share will do that to a company
iOS 7 is currently a BETA.
You can't make ANY conclusion about its battery life. Early betas typically have very bad battery life, because of bugs and debug code that was not removed.
After using my iPad mini - I hate using my iPhone 4S, I'm not sure I would pay for another Iphone, it's too small. I would buy another ipad mini with retina and cellular and buy some cheap phone w/cheap voice plan. Get the data plan on my Ipad mini. I don't need 2 sizes of both basically the same devices. I can see someone like me using a big iPhone and ditching the mini. I still use my MacBook Pro for most everything important anyway.
I'm really glad that Apple is taking notes and giving what the consumers want.
First they've adopted Android's software with the iOS 7 and now they're adopting the hardware portion.
Google has Apple's full attention now, which is a good thing. Losing market share will do that to a company
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Adopted androids software, can you eloborate?
And assuming they kept the longer aspect ratio, a 5.7" phone wouldn't be as big as most think. The only question would be how to keep it "retina". Keeping the same pixels would cause griping about losing retina, quadrupling pixels again would be overkill, and any other scaling would cause disruption for app authors.
I would be happy to sell 10 million unit's of something tomorrow and have you call me a failure, whilst I lay in the sun.
Anyway, my point is that it is nonsense to dismiss a concept as "ridiculous" given there is a proven market. Just because sales are slowing to the point where the corporate greed benchmark decides that this is a failure and effects share prices, this cannot take away from the reality of 10 million sales and therefore 10 million customers.
I agree with you in the sense that 10 million units is by no means a failure. The issue I see is that you are attributing the success because it has a large screen. You also forget it is a very powerful phone, with great features, and as much as I hate to say it, it is a good product. With all the other list of things you can't say, because this is successful it show that big screens are the reason. It could just as easily be justified it's because it has the most powerful phone process so far. The screen size was just a coincidence.
I don't mind Apple releasing a larger iPhone, as long as they keep a smaller model around. I have small hands, and when I try using my brother's GS3, I feel like I'm going to lose my grip!
The only issue would be the resolution. Either they have to throw yet another resolution onto the pile, or just make everything look bigger (thus eroding the PPI).
The only issue would be the resolution. Either they have to throw yet another resolution onto the pile, or just make everything look bigger (thus eroding the PPI).
"Ridiculous" is ignoring the Galaxy S4, that sold 10 million units [Sold, not units shipped to retailers], in less than 1 month.
Hmmm... what size screen does an S4 have....?
There is a market for a larger phone, 10 million people let us know that last month alone. In the same way these very same markets, let Apple know there was a market for a 7" iPad...
Have a nice day.
You can't contribute these sales to one feature, the screen size. I could just as easily say 10 million people bought it because it has the most powerful phone processor, and it just so happened to have a large screen.
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No. That isn't Apple's model. Although they do make money off of the ecosystem, Apple makes far more money off of iPhone hardware sales. Apple uses the ecosystem as a selling point for the hardware, their main money maker.
Of course not, but unlike a lot of people here, those 10 million people did not mind having a 5 inch screen
And? Just because there turned out to be a market for smaller tablets doesn't equal a market for bigger phones.
Let's go with the typical hyperbole..
They sold 10M because people were talked into it by salesman even though they really wanted an iPhone
They sold 10M because if you bought a Samsung TV, they were just givin' them away
They sold 10M because their customers are S-sheep
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I agree it's probably not due to one factor. Many might have upgraded or bought one because it's one of the leading phones on Android. Or because they owned a previous Samsung and like the UE. Some might have bought it because of the cool camera software.
But - that being said - the fact that it has a big screen IS one key selling point. Not that other phones don't have them - but this phone has one AND everything else. If the S4 were 4" and the same phone - I doubt it would have sold 10M.
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And then do some searches for Steve Jobs flip flops. You might find some footwear but you'll also find a lot of examples of him arguing hard one way and then flipping the other. One of my favorites: "who would want to watch video on an iPod?" not long before rolling out iPod with video. And don't we all know how he felt about tablets smaller than 10"? G4 & G5 were far superior to Intel right up to the point of switching to Intel and then Intel was superior to G4 & G5. His RDF concept is legendary and can still very much apply... especially for many people who frequent this site.
Jobs flipped per the opportunity. If there was money in it, it was only bad until Apple could roll out their version of it. Then it was magical.
None of that puts him down- that's what business people are supposed to do. The lesson is in NOT believing that just because he said something at one point in time doesn't mean that was the absolute best thought for all time. NFC and similar are only bad now because a) it's something hated competitors already have in their "knockoffs" and b) because Apple doesn't have it yet. As soon as Apple rolls out the hated feature "no one would want", nobody calls Apple stupid for doing so. Instead, it's "shut up and take my money", "best feature ever", "I absolutely have to buy the new version to get that feature I used to argue was stupid", etc
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