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20m jobs? What's he going to do for an encore? Pull a rbbit out of his backside?
Probably have a justice dept. that will actually deal with our corrupt politicians. Liberals can organize visitation committees to visit their favorite DC crooks once they are put where they belong...in the big house.
 
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By your comments, you know little to nothing about Quebec and it's people. Educate yourself on the many levels of intolerance that occur daily, in that province ... read about the ongoings of the language police and Bill 62.

This kid wasn't a messenger for Trump as you so boldly portend, but rather a lone wolf dealing with his own demons in society. So, until this case really unfolds, and it's highly doubtful we'll ever know the full extent of this kid's emotions, best you just shut it.

"lone wolf"... don't you mean "psychopath mass murderer who shot up a mosque because he's filled with fear and hate"? He's a terrorist, just like the Orlando Pulse shooter, they just have different reverse causes.

And Trump's ridiculous executive order wouldn't have stopped this guy from entering the US and shooting people here. Why don't we just block Canadians from entering now too? /s

It's easy to see the absolute hypocrisy in Trump's order if you just think things through.
 
Thank you President Trump for keeping us safe. Thank goodness you won.

When another mass shooting happens in the USA, please come back here and eat crow. If you think we are more safe from this executive order, you are delusional. He didn't even ban the countries where most of the terrorists even come from!!! Oh yeah, I forgot... Trump has business dealings in those countries... SMH
 
I wonder where a lot of you guys get your news.

Good on Tim. Roll out the legal challenges. This is not "exactly the same" as anything Obama did. And even if it WAS, how would that make it any more right?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mparing-trumps-and-obamas-immigration-restri/

Trump is NOT keeping you safe, he is stoking your misplaced fears and lighting a fire under the types of people who are likely to commit terrorist attacks. This. Is. Stupid. Everyone qualified enough to make the call says as such. Anti terrorist professionals around the world publicly face-palmed at the whole thing.

I live close to a lot of immigrants, we have refugees, etc. We get along fine. My daughters' school just had their annual supper for peace, where people bring their multicultural foods to share and learn about each other. The kids have none of your outmoded prejudices. We're proud to look out for each other.

Religious and ethnic exceptionism makes things worse. Fear is the mind killer.
 
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I wish he was as Apple should be hiring Americans, and this should be a non issue for them.
Still that is another discussion, which would be up to legislators. Apple only uses the opportunity available to them, as what is expected by their owners, the shareholders. Tim Cook is after all employed by them, and they will fire him if they were to realize that Tim Cook hire Americans who expect to be paid 40-50% more than equivalent guest workers. It is a capitalist system after all.
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This kid wasn't a messenger for Trump as you so boldly portend, but rather a lone wolf dealing with his own demons in society.
Lone wolfs, delusionals and other social outcasts are usually the prime target for recruitment by terrorists, and extremist organizations.
 
It is great work. Thank you President Trump for making us a safer country, and showing Apple's true colors by causing Tim Cook to come out crying. They should have been hiring Americans in the US all along. My loyalty to Apple is growing very dim :(.

Edit: I could care less about Apple's employment situation. Hire Americans and avoid this issue.
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I care about quality more than speed. You sound like a Project Manager. Lets get it out the door fast...quality be Darned. I don't care if it takes years if it makes us safer. Improving our vetting process is just common sense.

Hilariously silly comment. No coffee yet? Every international company, and Apple is the biggest of that sort, has staff constantly traveling international. They have over 100000 staff worldwide, so of course they cannot hire Americans everywhere. Ever looked at the globe? The problem is not Trump but that half the US does exactly what the world expects and just stops thinking completely.
Turning onwards and building walls has never kept a country much safer.
But ok, keep painting the world black and white. Worked out so well for you.
 
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Apple and the other tech companies aren't going to sue until Trump introduces his reforms on the H1B program. That is what this is about. They don't want to lose the ability to further depress wages by abusing the H1B program. People forget Apple, Google, etc, were successfully sued for colluding to depress wages by agreeing not to hire the other's employees.
 
Read my followup statements. Done.

In other words, none. At least you admit you have zero experience, knowledge, or training in national security. But we already knew that.

To paraphrase, when the entire national security apparatus of the US knows, based on real data, that the new commander in chief is a threat to national security, that's perfectly normal. But you're unfortunately just a bit too narrow in your thinking to consider anything that doesn't fit your narrative. So sad.
 
Just recently the Ohio State attacker in November injured 13 people. St. Cloud mall attack injured 10 people. Manhattan bomb explosion in September injured 29 people.

The Saint Cloud attacker was born in Kenya (not on the list), moved here at age two, and became a citizen ten years before the attack.

The Manhattan bomber was from Afghanistan, also not on the list. So the EO would have done nothing to prevent either of those.

But to get back to the original question.

How many nationals from those 7 countries killed how American over the past 15 years?

From your three examples, the answer is zero, as horrible as those attacks were, there were no deaths of victims. And two of those three examples weren't even from those seven countries.

Not that we should have a false sense of security, but we already vet people coming into the country and statistically speaking people here are in much greater danger from our own citizens.
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Trump isn't racist. He is a hypocrit.

He can't be both? It's hardly a defense to claim someone isn't racist because they don't discriminate against every minority.
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So you and many others here are ok when Obama does something, but hate when Trump does the exact same thing?
Where was the outrage back in 2015 and 2016 when Obama did the exact same thing Trump is doing now?

Not even remotely the same thing, nobody is buying those lies. Did Obama block people who already had valid, approved green cards or visas? Yes or no?
 
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In other words, none. At least you admit you have zero experience, knowledge, or training in national security. But we already knew that.

To paraphrase, when the entire national security apparatus of the US knows, based on real data, that the new commander in chief is a threat to national security, that's perfectly normal. But you're unfortunately just a bit too narrow in your thinking to consider anything that doesn't fit your narrative. So sad.
OK, go with that.
 
Hilariously silly comment. No coffee yet? Every international company, and Apple is the biggest of that sort, has staff constantly traveling international. They have over 100000 staff worldwide, so of course they cannot hire Americans everywhere. Ever looked at the globe? The problem is not Trump but that half the US does exactly what the world expects and just stops thinking completely.
Turning onwards and building walls has never kept a country much safer.
But ok, keep painting the world black and white. Worked out so well for you.

I am referring to hiring Americans in the US. And never mentioned anything about the Wall. Different topic. Maybe you haven't had your coffee today ;)
 
This is brilliant for Cook he can deflect from the product pipeline to politics.

Though while playing politics I like how Cook chooses to make no mention or Question in relation to Chinese controversial policies , money first!

I'm all for him taking a stance , not the hypocrisy though.
And on top of that, this is the company that has been slammed with a fine for illegal tax accounting in Europe!
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An 18 month vetting procedure isn't proper?
i can tell you how a vetting process works for Indians. It may extrapolate to the similar way in these countries or may be not.

As part of vetting process, US approaches Indian law and enforcement to provide background information about the candidate applying for visa. The law enforcement department sends a cop to either the candidate's house or calls the candidate to the police station. Mind you that there is no electronic record keeping in India. And no cop is gonna go into the file storage room to dig out information. Instead, the cop will ask you for bribe and once you give that, you are given a glowing recommendation.

So tell me is 18 months of vetting process is good enough?
 
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Just recently the Ohio State attacker in November injured 13 people. St. Cloud mall attack injured 10 people. Manhattan bomb explosion in September injured 29 people.

I'm sorry they have already taken over your side of the world. We aren't going to become the next Germany or Sweden.

None perpetrated by citizens of those 7 countries.
 
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It is true that I don't have number or names, as I don't work for Apple HR (or Apple at all). And I don't think anyone working there would or should provide them, at least not the names. But the quote should be enough to show that there are employees directly affected. I have little reason to think Tim Cook would lie about that, especially being such a big profile case and probably many who would want to check it.

Then you must be an American :)
 
Whether you agree or disagree with the intent, I'm sure you'd agree that the implementation was not only severely bungled, but also led to some serious backlash and consequences.

Actually ..... no. The implementation could have been smoother. However the majority of the backlash has been whining and crying via incorrect, spun, or improper headlines. If you take the "untruths" and associated complaints out, there isn't much left.
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An 18 month vetting procedure isn't proper?

Question: Do you know what the current vetting shortfall is? Has nothing to do with duration.
 
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What exactly would this lawsuit accomplish? It's not a permanent "ban" anyway. It's is a pause on entry for people from countries on the terror watch list until proper vetting procedures are made.

I suggest you look up the word "ban" in the dictionary, then revisit your comment. Semantics doesn't help the hundreds of lawful permanent residents who were prohibited from boarding a plane to come home or were detained once they arrived home.
 
I suggest you look up the word "ban" in the dictionary, then revisit your comment. Semantics doesn't help the hundreds of lawful permanent residents who were prohibited from boarding a plane to come home or were detained once they arrived home.

I looked it up:

"to prohibit, forbid, or bar; interdict: "
So to say Temporary Ban would mean to temporarily prohibit, forbid, or bar; interdict. Sounds right to me. Where was this posters error?
 
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