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It’s a forum so everyone gets to say how they feel, but I’ve been on this forum for almost 20 years and I’m thinking of signing off and not coming back as it has gotten so toxic here. Apple isn’t free from criticism but it just feels like it’s non stop.
I've noticed that as Apple changes so too does the mood of it's fans and downstream of that, their level of discourse. I think the frustration is only natural considering a company many of us supported and stayed with in darker times, because we believed in their vision of personal computing, is in the process of slowly going off the rails. Thats frustrating enough, but then compounded by the fact that they are effectively insulated from their mistakes by an obscene amount of cash it's enough to crater some folks. I'm in it to see what happens if nothing else. Frankly, I miss the company Apple used to be: one that made me excited to pour over system settings and every nook and cranny of the newly-released OS. Or the genuine hype around stuff like the firewire isight camera, photo booth and a new PowerMac. Or booting off a firewire drive so I could effectively take my Mac with me to work and back. That is an era I treasure because it got me excited for computers again, and I don't think we will ever see the likes of it again, even considering Apple Silicon. It is just not the same. MacOS is a shadow of its former self for us oldsters
 
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I've noticed that as Apple changes so too does the mood of it's fans and downstream of that, their level of discourse. I think the frustration is only natural considering a company many of us supported and stayed with in darker times, because we believed in their vision of personal computing, is in the process of slowly going off the rails. Thats frustrating enough, but then compounded by the fact that they are effectively insulated from their mistakes by an obscene amount of cash it's enough to crater some folks. I'm in it to see what happens if nothing else. Frankly, I miss the company Apple used to be: one that made me excited to pour over system settings and every nook and cranny of the newly-released OS. Or the genuine hype around stuff like the firewire insight camera, photo booth and a new PowerMac.
It’s a different company for sure with a run of the mill by the book CEO at the helm and it shows. They still make amazing stuff that I love to use and Apple products are a vital tool in how I provide for my family. They put too much pressure on themselves with yearly OS releases, this one was way too big for them to handle.

I get the frustration with them, I’d love a reformation at Apple but I don’t want to see their downfall.
 
It’s a different company for sure with a run of the mill by the book CEO at the helm and it shows. They still make amazing stuff that I love to use and Apple products are a vital tool in how I provide for my family. They put too much pressure on themselves with yearly OS releases, this one was way too big for them to handle.

I get the frustration with them, I’d love a reformation at Apple but I don’t want to see their downfall.
I completely agree!
 
The problem with a larger or more complex model is that they're computationally expensive to run, to say nothing of their file size. They would take longer to generate a response and use more power to do so. Not great when running on a phone.
A new paper from MIT (https://people.csail.mit.edu/rrw/time-vs-space.pdf) finds that at least some computation can be done using less memory than previously thought, while still achieving the same speed. Maybe this will help device manufacturers if they find that the minimum amount of RAM they put into many of their products in hopes of implementing larger on-device AI models, as in Apple's 8GB, turns out not to be enough to achieve decent speeds.

The MIT paper is explained in less technical terms in a New Scientist article, but it's behind a paywall, but I'll risk being sued by excerpting most of it here:

Time and memory space are the two main constraints on what we can compute. Some problems require lots of memory, some lots of time, and many demand a lot of both. Studying these constraints is the domain of computational complexity researchers, who refer to time as the number of steps a computer takes to do a certain task, and space as the number of memory slots the task requires.

Intuitively these values are linked, because if a task requires X steps, in the worst case scenario where the computer needs to access its memory for every step, it will require X memory slots.

But researchers have been able to lower the bar for the amount of memory needed in this worst case scenario. In the 1970s it was discovered that, in fact, any computation that takes X steps could be done with X/log X of memory. So a program that took 100 time steps, for instance, could always run within 50 memory slots, as log 100 is equal to 2.

“That’s the best that we’ve known until last week,” says Lance Fortnow at the Illinois Institute of Technology. But then Williams released a surprising paper that showed that this can be reduced dramatically – to the square root of X log X. Instead of 100 or 50 memory slots, a 100-step problem could actually be reduced to 15 slots.

“It was kind of a shocker when Ryan sent this paper around last week, and we were all like, ‘wow’,” says Fortnow.

The finding sounds unlikely because it means that computers seem to need only enough space to hold a small part of a problem in memory – a bit like humans being able to solve a complex, multi-step maths problem without the need to write everything down, relying only on our limited short-term memory.

Williams’s approach hinges on what is known as the tree evaluation problem. This involves a series of linked calculations in a branching tree-shaped structure, where calculating the final result at the “root” of the tree first involves calculating the “leaves”, then “branches”, and so on. Recent advances in solving the tree evaluation problem have shown that it is possible to do so with an algorithm that is able to re-use computer memory that is already full – itself a completely unexpected discovery.

But while the magnitude of the discovery has shocked computer scientists, it won't necessarily change the way we use computers. The problem is that the finding shows that while you can shrink the amount of memory required to perform a calculation, it won't decrease the time taken. Computer memory is fairly cheap and readily available, so reducing the amount we need isn't a priority.

A discovery that allowed the reverse would mean we could add more memory to computers and speed-up computation as a result - something that would be very helpful as advances in processor speed have begun to slow down - but whether this would be possible is unclear. "Now that we know time-efficient algorithms can be made space-efficient, we can look for trade-offs which are pretty good for both time and space at the same time, and that's useful in a real sense," says Mertz.

Fortnow says he sees no immediate practical implications for the work, but points out that it does provide hope that more surprises in computational complexity could still come and that they might shake-up how we solve hard problems. "You're shocked once, you can be shocked again," he says.
 
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I wonder how they'll sidestep this at WWDC.
Maybe try to distract everyone with a rumored new iOS and Mac UI.
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AI will be postponed since Apple is busy implementing a brand new (disastrous) UI design and we‘re thinking about adding a new physical button, the „Awww“ button with truly Awwwsomee and mindblowing functionality.
 
I don't particularly care about Apple's AI offerings but the point is that they based the introduction of their 2025 devices on its availability, very little of which has emerged as promised.

There are so many other things that have quietly improved but they and seemingly everyone else is so fixated on AI. The biggest benefits this year for me have been the continuing and improving hearing support in AirPod Pro 2, the introduction of the M4 Air and education prices on the new iPads which have a much better storage offer at base level.
 
Absolutely disgraceful.

We need a total freeze on ”new features” for at least two years, destroy the current bloated codebase and stop all the emoji, memoji, AI nonsense.

We need to fire Federighi along with every single marketing clown that keeps on pushing pointless feature fluff year after year.

And most importantly, we NEED to bring back Scott Forstall and Bertrand Serlet to make Apple software GREAT AGAIN!
 
It always felt like Apple rushed Apple Intelligence out at least a year too early, because of "marketing reasons".

Not a good look on the company.
 
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It always felt like Apple rushed Apple Intelligence out at least a year too early, because of "marketing reasons".

Not a good look on the company.
Make that 2 years. There still isn’t a sign of a stable release and Siri already got postponed again to 19.4.
 
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Not surprised and not expecting to see Siri improve in the next 12 months. Expecting improvements only around the time iOS 20 comes out.
 
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Make that 2 years. There still isn’t a sign of a stable release and Siri already got postponed again to 19.4.

According to this article, Apple may be attempting to solve an unsolvable problem in AI.

Essentially, Apple want to give AI the "keys to the kingdom", ie access to all your info and apps, but at the same time, they are trying to make it completely secure, which is notoriously difficult with LLMs because they are vulnerable to prompt injection attacks.

If Apple is unable to solve this issue, where do they go next with AI? Have they painted themselves into a corner?
 
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And you believe Apple hasn’t?
Oh they do. But not nearly as much as Googles and ChatGPTs of this world. It's been reported so many times that the Siri team doesn't have enough data on us to be able to improve it as much as the others.

Look, I develop apps part-time and it's obviously more easy to collect a bit of data to be able to improve the apps, such as crash logs, feature use counts, etc.
 
It’s a forum so everyone gets to say how they feel, but I’ve been on this forum for almost 20 years and I’m thinking of signing off and not coming back as it has gotten so toxic here. Apple isn’t free from criticism but it just feels like it’s non stop.
I understand what you are saying. There is a level of infantile discourse that permeates many of these posts. The cognitive dissonance is like a beacon.

To me, Apple will deliver when they deliver. As long as my devices are supported, do what they are suppose to do I am of the opinion, deliver Siri when it’s ready.

I don’t care if the competition is allegedly worlds better in the personal assistant space.
 
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I wholeheartedly appreciate how openly they own up to their failed commitments. Incidentally, if you ask Siri to rearrange the letters in the word "gaslighting," you get "Apple Intelligence". Of course you need to unlock your iPhone first. /s

No, seriously, just do a proper PSA (at least I haven't seen one, may be just my mistake). I’d rather wait for a quality release than see an unfinished feature rushed out prematurely. This stuff isn’t easy, as proven by the failures of other companies and my own work experience. Just please - be open and honest about it. Right now, it looks unnecessarily shady for company like Apple.
 
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And it will be completely unfounded. The essence of a false advertising claim comes down to intent. Apple presumably made a good faith effort to deliver on these claims, but was not able to. They did not intentionally mislead anyone.

This is not false advertising, not even remotely.
It's not, unless you find a good lawyer ;-)
 
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