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Apple Continues to Sell Base Model 2015 MacBook Pros at Same Price Points
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Headphone jack? What's that? Where do I plug these lightning headphones into? Oh a dongle? So back and forth with dongles between devices. Makes sense. :no:
I was going to guess XP days or before, but some of this is silly. Do you remember how hot some of the older macbook pros could get? It's the same problem, but you can't underclock cpus in OSX as a means of compensation. Newer ones still throttle, but a lot of the older issues are gone. Under Lion, my 2011 model could drain the battery while plugged if anything ran the dGPU hard enough or saturated all 4 cores for some time.
It does appear that, other than for iOS/macOS development, most other software or alternatives can be found on Windows. I do understand that after you invested a lot in the software, you cannot easily jump ships.
2. Consumer and Pro. That's what we need. A simple matrix like Steve Jobs brought in when he scuttled the crazy amount of products that had spread in Apple.
Apple no longer understands the difference between consumer and pro. The only thing matters is that you buy things with Apple Pay.
That's not true these days. The expensive packages mentioned could be switched over. Textwrangler isn't on Windows, although that's a free version of BBedit. A lot of his complaints have nothing to do with Windows itself. Faulty power supplies are an issue of bad hardware, but I've batteries swell on my macbook pro. Six of one...
My Macs would get hot but not so hot that they would reset randomly. Reseating CPUs with Arctic Silver thermal paste was fun, lol. I know of several people with laptops, including one that I had (a Dell) as well as Sony and Toshiba models that would get fried if you used them while having static electricity in the winter because they were so poorly shielded pieces of crap.
I switched to Macs in early 2008 when I switched to a design major, but had used them some in school for years, including G4 towers for video editing in high school when I along with some other students launched Comcast Channel 15 in KC, which was one of the first news stations completely run by high school students with satellite uplink and everything. But I could never afford them. The first PC I used was a 386 running Windows 3.1. Had a Packard Bell as a kid with a 14.4Kbps modem. Vista was a disaster when I left. I had to use computers with Windows 7 at internships and in 3D animation class when I was learning Lightwave. It seemed better. I used it more extensively after graduating college at work from 2012 until early 2013 when I got my iMac. It was really frustrating. I had a decently spec'd PC at the time with an i7, 8GB of RAM and the graphics card was always garbling the display and acting up. Lots of random freezes and the whole thing was horribly slow. My productivity went up rapidly once I got the iMac and my boss was amazed at how much more work I was getting done on it. I should be due for an upgrade next year on this machine, I think. Haven't really used Windows 8, 9 (hah), or 10.
Most of that sounds like me, although I don't know Lightwave. I know maya reasonably well, although I haven't used it in a long time. The graphics card was almost certainly a bad piece of hardware, either the card itself or ram. I've had the same problems on some of my Macs. My G4 used to shut off randomly and instantly. My G5 lasted a long time (surprisingly). My 2011 macbook pro is on its third logic board. I guess I find it surprising when people say they never experienced hardware trouble with a Mac.
I agree Vista was a disaster. I have bootcamp on this Mac, which I have kept on Windows 7 for now. I may change that. I think this board is dying too though. I would buy a new one right now, but they're charging too much. I use a lot of software packages that take up way too much space (photoshop, LaTeX, matlab, Xcode, anaconda mainly for scipy, etc), so 256 is too small. I wouldn't be left with a sufficient amount after installing everything.
Obviously they have quite the overstock of last year's Macs...once they clear them out, then the lineup will be simplified, but, it may take a year (or longer at these prices).
Unbelievable that they not only kept the old models at the same price with no price drop whatsoever, but the new models are $200+ more at the base level...WTF!?!?!!!?!
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actually, the base model has Air processors, so for $500 more you can get the new base MBP instead of the Air.
The 2015 base MBP 13" was/is $1299
The 2016 base MBP 13" w/touch is $1799
so, really the base Pro model that is an upgrade from last year's base Pro model is $500 more!!!!!! WTF?!?!?!
ARG, was hoping for same price or lower than last year with the new features. This is B.S.
Unbelievable that they not only kept the old models at the same price with no price drop whatsoever, but the new models are $200+ more at the base level...WTF!?!?!!!?!
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actually, the base model has Air processors, so for $500 more you can get the new base MBP instead of the Air.
The 2015 base MBP 13" was/is $1299
The 2016 base MBP 13" w/touch is $1799
so, really the base Pro model that is an upgrade from last year's base Pro model is $500 more!!!!!! WTF?!?!?!
ARG, was hoping for same price or lower than last year with the new features. This is B.S.
Well, I don't upgrade often, and this is my third Mac. I did have an issue with the display on this one at first. It was one of those crappy LG displays that had weird image retention issues. I took it to the Apple Store and they sent it to Texas, replaced the display on my machine (it was not a replacement of the entire unit) and had it back to me a few days later. It was crazy fast how quickly they fixed it. Only issue I've had otherwise is that the hinge has a small amount of play on the right side. Not enough to affect use but enough that when I go to adjust the tilt of the display I can feel it pop back between the two positions. Probably needs tightened but I don't see screws so I'm not sure how, lol, without taking the whole thing apart.
My grandpa is still using my early 2008 MBP, haha. He rips 480p video from old VHS home movies and edits it in iMovie. I had upgraded it to 6GB RAM but it could probably use an SSD. Over the past year it will randomly turn off about once per week, but it's not bad considering the age and constant use it has received.
2015 MacBook Pros = iPhone 6s/6s Plus
2016 MacBook Pros = iPhone 7/7 Plus
Keep your 2015 models.
2015 > 2016
The only time I was happy this year is when the Cavs beat the Warriors and me moving to a cooler city. But the products haven't been that amazing to upgrade to.
You know 2016 would be trouble when there is lack of blockbuster films throughout the year, Note7 started burning up, the passing of David Bowie, Prince, Muhammad Ali. Just waiting for this year to be over.
2016 MacBook Pros = iPhone 7/7 Plus
Keep your 2015 models.
2015 > 2016
The only time I was happy this year is when the Cavs beat the Warriors and me moving to a cooler city. But the products haven't been that amazing to upgrade to.
You know 2016 would be trouble when there is lack of blockbuster films throughout the year, Note7 started burning up, the passing of David Bowie, Prince, Muhammad Ali. Just waiting for this year to be over.
We waited this long all they do is introduced a different product. It's amazing couple years ago we wait for a year then we get rewarded for an upgrade. I don't know how Apple does thing nowadays but they did this in every product they sell now, from iPhone to Apple Watch and now the Macs. They raise the price of the newly introduced product with added features. Keep the old version and leaving us more choices. Back then we get an upgraded product and then sometimes lower the price because the material used is getting cheaper. Supposedly newer product comes with better hardware with added features that replaces the current product. Just like here's my budget wait they have the new MacBook that supposed to replace my 2-3 year old MacBook. Wait a minute that is more expensive because they have new features. Now my budget is enough for the older design with better graphics and processor, unless I'm willing to put more money for the new one.
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2015 laptops (that themselves didn't get updated, as I'm guessing they're still running haswell) at the same price points. That's more then courage, that's ballsy. A big F U to each and every person that buys one. Lube sold separately.
I am a long time Apple user. I seriosly hope no one will buy these overpriced laptops. And for the maxed-out ones abusively overprice laptops...
1/ Apple need to know a 128 and 256 Gb SSD Macbook is in the netbook catagory.
2/ We want more ports. Not adaptors.
3/ We do not want thinner laptops. We want capabilities and batterylife
1/ Apple need to know a 128 and 256 Gb SSD Macbook is in the netbook catagory.
2/ We want more ports. Not adaptors.
3/ We do not want thinner laptops. We want capabilities and batterylife
Actually that's not true, in this case last year's models cost the same, in the case of iPads & iPhones, last year's models drop in price, while the new product comes in at ...oh, wait, iPad Pro, yeah, never mind, ... in the case of iPhones, last year's models go down in price...I don't know what they are doing now. ...At first I though it was just an over abundance of old Macs in supply, but, maybe they are still making them?
So which is it? Too simple, or not simple enough?
It always used to be people complaining that Apple doesn't give enough choices and forces a one size fits all model on the market, now it seems the hipster cynic response is that Apple should simplify their product matrix...
Whatever. If it's hard to figure out that you can buy the latest release or the release before that, which is pretty much the model used across all of their product lines now, then maybe the walls aren't high enough around your garden...
Yeah I've done exactly the same I went for the £1,999 as I really wanted 512 SSD. UK pricing is a joke especially for a touch bar which I won't use because I'm hooked up to a Thunderbolt Display most of the time.
I'm guessing the next iMac will have have a Magic Keyboard with Touch Bar built in so I can add that feature then.
I would have preferred better specs with just Touch ID added at the current price point than the Touch bar.
Only thing I'm thinking about is if Apple do release new displays then they won't be compatible with 2015 or older MacBooks.
Hm. Same stuff, same price point. That's not insane, that's just rational.
If it's the same stuff they were selling yesterday, why is it suddenly less valuable? Because there's new stuff? If the new stuff is better than the stuff they were selling yesterday then it should cost more than that stuff did yesterday.
Don't get me wrong, I like stuff to get cheaper as much as anyone, but expecting the price to drop just because something better and more expensive came along is probably the more insane position...
That feels like their plan. Price macs to the high-end and make iPads the consumer line.
