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Apple Continuing Work on Mac OS X 10.5.2. 9C27 Seeded.

writeous said:
Dont think people mind waiting, its just seeing "Almost Here" and "Inching closer" every few days is making everyone antsy about it not being here already.
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Trust me we minded. Just now we have a thread. Not that we haven't started threads about our issues elsewhere.

The thing that bother me, is when they release it, I will get what I want fixed, but it won't be perfect. Other **** will break, not everyones issue will be resolved and we will be right back where we started. Except, we will have some of our issues fixed.

In conclusion, releasing it early means some issues get fixed. Waiting means no issues get fixed.

Apple screwed up, they made the patch too big. They should have released it sooner in multiple patches. Now they have an unwieldy beast that can't pass QA.

Grrrr.

P6
 
What a bunch of whiny 5 year olds.

You all sound as if you have no freaking life. The software will be released when pre-existing showstoppers are resolved and new features don't introduce any new showstoppers.

Get a life and read a book. Or if you bitch about how long it takes, shut up and go learn ObjC/Cocoa and add to the Darwin Ports projects.
 
Still broken

It's still broken. ..Doesn't affect all users but it's a big honking problem. It's something that HAVE to fix.

I'll be updating my bug report(s) tomorrow morning.
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ffakr
 
10.5.1 is working almost flawlessly for me on my new MacBook with the Santa Rosa architecture and 4GB of RAM. But I'm still eager for all of the updates and goodies that will come in 10.5.2 It seems most likely that we will have this next week. :)
 
wow... seriously

This has to be the most ridiculous bit of whining I've heard in recent memory. It will be done when its done folks.... and Im sure it will be a great update.

In the meantime, put on a movie, have a coke, and **** ;)
 
madmax_2069 said:
is the channel on the router set to auto ?

have you tried to set another channel then what was used to see if it helped or cured it ?

at first for me the default setting (auto) worked great then my wifi became unstable the sometimes would not reconnect. i found out when reading some site that something can be conflicting with the channel used for the wifi and cause the same thing.
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A G3 iBook, and an HP laptop work on my network with no problems. A Macbook that's 4 months old? Drops every 5 minutes. Just tonight it was continually dropping in and out for 20 minutes straight, forcing me to change computers.
 
I don't have many problems, but I'm getting way too tired of crashes – especially Safari's and a few audio apps. Oh, and the beachballing at times.
This alone makes me want the update. And, boy, will I be dissappointed if this isn't fixed! If it isn't fixed, I will reinstall Tiger and demand my money back for Leopard. And then I'll arm myself with patience until Leopard hits 10.5.5.

I do have other problems as well - such as the mac not recognising my wi-fi network, but in comparison, and with regards to annoyance-levels, that is nothing.
 
noodle654 said:
This is killing me. My MBP wont wake from sleep, tried everything. WiFi is a joke. It really is.
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Jokes on you. my wifi is fine.

Edit: My only problem is my Airport Card on my iMac will connect to my Extreme @ 2.4GHz N spec (130Mbit), once I down the interface and re-up it, it'll jump to 270. Pretty consistently. Not sure why it does that.
 
I really can't think of any good reasons as to why Apple would purposely hold back 10.5.2. They just want it to fix what they wanted it to fix. What's the big deal on waiting? At least we know they're focusing on their computer business here and not just the iPhone, haha.

Edit: my macbook pro doesn't wake from sleep sometimes too. Wonder if it's 10.5.1 related or if it's just the hardware...
 
teknishn said:
This has to be the most ridiculous bit of whining I've heard in recent memory. It will be done when its done folks.... and Im sure it will be a great update.

In the meantime, put on a movie, have a coke, and **** ;)
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Yeah, I agree. If all these people think Leopard is so great, why are they dying for an update?

My machine is working like a dream. Are tons of people seriously having major issues?
 
tothelimit said:
it doesn't seem very likely at all. i mean, if they're seeding a new build today - i don't see it being ready for mass distribution tomorrow. just not enough time. i guess we won't be seeing it until sometime next week :(
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Really?
Don't be so sure.

Check the MR news archive.
Leopard 9B13 seeded to developers, then 9B16. On November 14th, 9B18 was seeded to developers, and on November 15th, 9B18 was released as 10.5.1
 
not like this...

Kilamite said:
You need to click "Use as Defaults"

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doesn't this change the entire view settings for every window/folder.

i would like to have each folder a different view settings - including size of the window.

i don't think this works...well, for something so simple its so complicated in leopard.
 
mdriftmeyer said:
You all sound as if you have no freaking life. The software will be released when pre-existing showstoppers are resolved and new features don't introduce any new showstoppers.

Get a life and read a book. Or if you bitch about how long it takes, shut up and go learn ObjC/Cocoa and add to the Darwin Ports projects.
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I'd agree with you, but I can't say I haven't done my own fair share of whining about the MBP.
 
Eagle101 said:
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/3A109a Safari/419.3)

i have it. And no i am not joking.
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If you have 10.5.2 running, why not give us a little feedback?
 
teknishn said:
This has to be the most ridiculous bit of whining I've heard in recent memory. It will be done when its done folks.... and Im sure it will be a great update.

In the meantime, put on a movie, have a coke, and **** ;)
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Yeah. I did that exactly - put on a movie (Saw IV) and then got out the coke. Oh wait. Are you talking about the beverage?
 
I think of the 10.x.2 releases as being the first releases of the operating system: certainly they're the first I would consider getting.

The more time they take with 10.5.2, the more it makes me think:
a) They're spending time to get it right, and not rushing it out to meet a particular date.
b) How much was 10.5.0 rushed to get it to meet it's (already late) deadline?
 
wkkschb said:
doesn't this change the entire view settings for every window/folder.

i would like to have each folder a different view settings - including size of the window.

i don't think this works...well, for something so simple its so complicated in leopard.
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You can set it for each window. Just use command-j and set the window, but don't set it as default. Leopard will remember the window position and the settings - unless you do a drag and drop that involves spring-loaded folders; then things get f-ed up. I'd like to see them fix that.
 
it would be nice if 10.5.2 had had the once promised notes sync for the iphone. i think i would find myself actually using notes were that that case. i guess there's always the sdk coming.
 
cms2 said:
is it typical for Apple to release updates so quickly/frequently? Or is this more a matter of Leopard being a relatively big update and so requiring some immediate tweaking? Just sort of curious, if this resembles users' past experience with, say, Tiger (which I only got to know for a couple of months or so before Leopard).
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This is actually a little bit slow for a .2 release. The .1 update almost always comes within 3 weeks of the initial release (usually around 2 weeks). The .2 usually comes about 4-6 weeks later (maybe 8). So, we are overdue.

And, I agree with everyone else saying that Leopard wasn't complete when it was released.
 
I'm glad they're trying to get it right the first time instead of messing it up and doing loads of patches afterwards. Though at this rate it'll take almost as long to release as {Windows Vista | phpBB3 | Duke Nukem Forever | insert-your-favourite-vaporware-past-or-present-here}
 
I personally have been through thick and thin with Apple, since the days of the Mac SE, I have seen Chips and Operating Systems come and go. Sometimes just to get things done I have had to relent and get in a few windose based machines to get the work done (when 8.5 hit the market). Apple have done us and I mean me personally a serious disservice with Leopard, the quick fix 10.5.1 underscored the significant issues. Claims that Leopard is stable are hollow and misleading. My complaint isn't that Leopard needs to be fixed and Apple are taking some time getting us there, it is that for January we have been left hanging not knowing just when this wretched 10.5.2 will materialise. Had I know that effectively I would loose the whole of January because 10.5.2 wasn't going to be ready for awhile I would have spent my Christmas holiday reinstalling Tiger on all my machines. Unlike Apple I take missed deadlines extremely seriously and because we have been fumbling around with our core production software wobbling on Leopard it has seriously undermined our business. I am not talking about some obscure third party App. Like Tosser this weekend we go back to Tiger. This nobody knows when mindset is quite perverse, for goodness sake Apple give us a date, then ship us the fixed OS on DVD, leave the bandwidth for MBA. My only conclusion is that 10.5.2 doesn't go far enough to fixing anything and Apple have painted themselves into a corner.
 
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