Yes! Then they wouldn't have to cripple their devices. (although I don't think they give adobe the access they would need to properly optimize flash for mac... part of the war)
Apple Corrects iPad Promo Video to Show No Flash Capability
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Yes! Then they wouldn't have to cripple their devices. (although I don't think they give adobe the access they would need to properly optimize flash for mac... part of the war)
djcraze
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I don't know about everyone else, but I hate flash wish a passion. I don't goto websites that use it, except YouTube. I watch all my media off an external harddrive over WiFi.
Flash games would just be stupid on an iPad. Ever thought how exactly that would be implimented? Playing a game on a full screen device that has borders around it and content, plus the fact that Flash doesn't support multi-touch (or does it?).
Plus, I haven't exactly tested Flash Mobile, but I wouldn't be to surprised if it sucked and made you want to avoid flash websites at all cost. I remember Flash for the PSP. It was just horrible. Whenever I use flash on my MBP, My CPU in Safari jumps to 50% .. on YouTube. That's rediculous.
So, forget Flash. Compaines are lazy and use it to save money at your expense. Don't blame Apple for taking the right route and saying, "FU Adobe.", becasue, that's what we should all be saying. Compaines should start integrating something different than Flash, or push Adobe to make their product more lightweight.
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Flash games would just be stupid on an iPad. Ever thought how exactly that would be implimented? Playing a game on a full screen device that has borders around it and content, plus the fact that Flash doesn't support multi-touch (or does it?).
Plus, I haven't exactly tested Flash Mobile, but I wouldn't be to surprised if it sucked and made you want to avoid flash websites at all cost. I remember Flash for the PSP. It was just horrible. Whenever I use flash on my MBP, My CPU in Safari jumps to 50% .. on YouTube. That's rediculous.
So, forget Flash. Compaines are lazy and use it to save money at your expense. Don't blame Apple for taking the right route and saying, "FU Adobe.", becasue, that's what we should all be saying. Compaines should start integrating something different than Flash, or push Adobe to make their product more lightweight.
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pubwvj
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Good point. Microsoft will soon also be at the right price point for Apple to scoop them up as well.
Why would you consider him mentally stronger? Maybe you are so mentally week, that you actually believe what Jobs tells you about Flash and Blu-ray being a "bag of hurt", while his laughs all the way to the bank.
Jobs does not like Flash and Blu-ray because it cut's into his profits. So he belittles it, and ignores it, and and then he is joined by the "mentally weak" army of fanboys who's lives hang on every word he says. Guess what boys, the joke is on you, Jobs is laughing at YOU. Carry on.
Mal
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You can't adopt a company's closed standard as an open standard. That's like saying you're going to adopt a cat as a dog. It doesn't work that way. Until Adobe releases the full source for Flash, which they will never do, it's always going to be a closed format. I also don't even consider it a de facto web standard. It's a common web format, but not a standard by any means. Everything it does can be done in several other ways, even though it may be the most common way of doing several of them.
I also hope it dies, but for what it's worth, Apple doesn't care what I think, or what you think. They do what they think is best. It just so happens that I agree with them in this case. Flash needs to die, and Apple is one of the companies in the best possible position to force that to happen.
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kernkraft
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Peace
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Precisely! The good benefits of Flash (at least the ones I know of) CAN be done with alternative solutions such as Javascript, Jquery, HTML5, CSS, PHP, etc.
Sure, some say HTML5 is just as bad as flash, but considering that it's a standard that is in development while Flash is a standard that HAS been developed, I think that says something...
aucl
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most google apps are without flash! mobile me galleries, ...
jamesryanbell
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No, it needs to be beat into the ground until it's changed. Infinitely. CHANGE IT. Flash is factually here to stay.
Peace
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Its more better.
You haven't
You haven't because the web that is shown on the iphone was rewritten to not include it.
You haven't because the web that is shown on the iphone was rewritten to not include it.
Peace
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Peace
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pubwvj
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Exactly. Flash isn't needed.
Besides. If Apple puts Flash on then they've got a harder time getting rid of it. The goal is to get rid of Flash. Maybe Adobe too. Adobe used to make great software. I used Illustrator and Photoshop since before they were released. Now Adobe is just reworking it to get the upgrade fees. I stopped long ago and just keep using the old version I bought before that do the job. Adobe has stopped innovating.
Anuba
macrumors 68040
Yeah, because what the world really needs is for the company that controls Final Cut Studio to also take control of Premiere and After Effects, as if Adobe acquiring Macromedia wasn't enough of a blow to healthy competition. Then Microsoft can buy Apple and one company will have control over all hardware and software in the world. Then they can demand any prices they want and be as lazy and sloppy as they want.
Pretty much, because they bought their #1 competitor. They have no incentive to try harder.pubwvj said:
First, re: pull down menus; they suck on iPhone, and will continue to suck on iPad. But ignoring that, they work because they are considered to be objects with event handlers for mousedown, mouseup, mouseover, etc. There are targets, and WebKit can determine what you are trying to press.
Flash is more like one giant image. Flash documents usually won't have pre-organized vector shapes that make up zones to press on, and for which it can remember if the user already tapped on to mouse over so now it should consider it a click and so on. And can you imagine, given that _everything_ in Flash has mouse over, tapping on everything twice?
A simple tap and tap again like WebKit uses would not suffice. Perhaps something more complicated would, but it would make the experience of using Flash terrible—even more terrible than a tap-and-tap-again.
And we're talking about Apple—the company who refused to implement Copy-and-Paste until they thought they could do it well. I doubt Flash can even be done well on iPad.
It's battery life!
Can u imagine all those flash ads running all over the place on the iPad and the power consumed? The battery would go in no time. I believe Apple keeps Flash off their battery-dependent devices for this reason.
Can u imagine all those flash ads running all over the place on the iPad and the power consumed? The battery would go in no time. I believe Apple keeps Flash off their battery-dependent devices for this reason.