I would respect that if they would just be upfront and say they had to increase the price of the phone because of the additional technology implemented in the phone. If they would have said "We removed the charger due to technology enhancement such as LIDAR would have raised the price of the phone so we removed the charger so the price can stay the same." I would be 100% okay with such honesty.
I really want to see that. Don't necessarily include the USB adapter in the iPhone box but have it auto added to the digital/virtual shopping cart. Then watch as the discussion threads and headlines boast about "How you can save $19 by removing these items before checkout" as if it's a breakthrough secret. Somehow that would be priceless to me.
I'm not opposed to also removing the cable -- yes, I would hope it would take the price down slightly or not push Apple to increase it to maintain margins.
As I replied to someone else, it can be all of those reasons, and perhaps is. How is it illogical if Apple removes an accessory to 1) reduce more electronic waste 2) maintain profit margins 3) maintain the same price with the same margin even with possible short term added expenses. Am I stating Apple's primary goal is "for the people" and not for profit? No. Of course, not. However, even if they're primary goal is for profit, that doesn't mean other intentions are fake/false. Lastly, I'm exhausted by the claim, "If Apple reduced the price by that much, it'd be okay." That is the BS claim. If the iPhone 12 series started at $679 USD, 99% of the whiners would still be b****ing about being owed a USB power adapter.
At the same time they improved the technology in the iPhone with many iterations, like when LTE support was added, or more cameras, or other sensors, etc. and they didn't have to somehow drop normally included parts to make up for it.
You are already paying for it. Apple is just leaving it out of the box and taking that revenue as profit. Forcing them to put the charger back in is just adding back what customers are already paying for.
It's not superflous if I'm USING it to charge my device! Whether it's included in the box or I have to buy it seperately, it's still 1 more charger in the world.
Just because something, traditionally, has been part of the past, doesn't mean, times change and things change. While there are varied opinions that have the horse beat many times over, Apple decided to remove the charger and not increase the price of the phone, while at the same time claiming it's partly environmental (which does make sense).
And certainly in cases like that it would be unusual if they didn't end up generating a good amount of discussion, especially on the part of those who are affected by the change, and even more especially if someone else made the decision behind the change that is affecting them.
What would be unusual if anything apple did generated little to no discussion. While Apple has been known to backtrack, I don’t think on this particular issue, they will. Being cited by the EU for a large responsibility in generating e-waste I don’t see Apple going back to one phone one charger, except where required by local law.
Philosophically, why should corporations pay taxes at all? All their employees are already paying income taxes and the companies already pay a ton of taxes, like property tax, tax on utilities, every time their employees take a flight (20%), stay at a hotel (20%), stage an event, buy furniture, food, equipment, etc.?
Good luck finding a phone with included charger then.
What company would discuss the item costs and associated price calculations with their customers?
The difference there is that the phone can operate just fine without a case or a stand or something else extra, but not without a way to charge.
Those are all interesting assumptions but don't necessarily hold true. Certainly many will have all the chargers they need, while many won't.
There is no such thing as a “USB C to lightning charger”. There are USB C chargers, and you attach any cable you like. If you have an old iPhone charger, that just works. If you have an old Samsung USB C charger, that just works with the new cable. And if you have a new MacBook with USB C charger, that just works with the new cable.
You don’t need a charger for every phone. And USB A chargers work just fine.
And for the many that have "all the chargers they need" producing and shipping a mandatory charger in the box is unneeded and wasteful. For the many others it's easy to just add a charger at checkout.
Lightning port works with old and new chargers. USB C port only works with new chargers.
But people _have_ lots of USB A chargers. That’s getting too stupid for me now.
The phones don’t cost more than elsewhere, it’s the import taxes for luxury items that drive the price up. Apple doesn’t get more money than for a US phone. So they’ll add $20, then Brazil adds whatever luxury import tax on it.
To be honest, there is no requirement in France to add _good_ earphones. They could add $2 earphones for free. Chargers _must_ be decent quality.
