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This is like the 2014 equivalent of a used CD bin filled with copies of those CDs they used to give away at clothing stores back in the 90s.
 
Folks, the issue here is not whether or not you like U2, or whether or not you wanted a free album, or whether the album is good or bad, or how ungrateful you are, or how generous Apple may be.

The real issue here is the method Apple used to "give" it to people. It was opt-out instead of opt-in. And what I think people are actually complaining about is the possibility of Apple setting a precedent. U2 album today... What's next?

It's like receiving an email newsletter you didn't sign up for. Hey, it's free, but you didn't want it, you didn't ask for it, and now it's cluttering up your inbox. Sure, you could flag it as junk or write a rule or click on the unsubscribe link, but now you have to waste your time and energy to NOT see something you never wanted.
 
No they're just not as clueless as some are.
You fail to understand what Apple did to benefit themselves and U2. A rather nefarious scheme.

They payed $100.000.000,- to have some old musicians to perform 1 song at their event :)

Maybe an Art/Music scholarship program would be better received.....
 
Question...when it's added to your library does it take up space on the phone? Or is it just to stream? If it takes up no space, I guess I don't see what the big deal is

Because if you shuffle all music, it might play a song from this album, and just one second of U2 is enough to cause permanent hearing damage ;)
 
They announced 2 million downloads (presumably including automatic ones). If only they'd tell us the number of how many deleted it.

Glad they're doing it, but I'd love to see an easy way to delete ANY purchased (including free) music from an account. Many of those free tracks are ones I will never listen to again and I'd be happy to not even see them listed.
 
It would have been so easy...

Put it in the iTunes Store as a free download.

People who like U2 would have been exited and happy and people who don't like U2 could have just ignored it.

The world would have been a wonderful place.

But no, for the sole purpose of making a big marketing splash for U2, they had to force their music onto every single iTunes customer around the world.

Worst idea ever.
 
5t3f4n, still waiting for your primary email. I have loads of free things to send you!

You seem to have a made a wildly inaccurate (and downright silly) comparison.
The day I voluntarily sign up to a site or service and provide them with my name, address, phone number and credit card details – then I expect to receive the occasional e-mail. Not from some service unknown to me via a complete stranger.

Just like I expect to see low-quality posts (such as yours) by visiting this forum.
 
downloading and using them is entirely optional.
As is downloading and listening to the U2 album.

Except that it says the opposite in this very article. Ironic that your post calls other people "mentally challenged".

Rather than letting customers choose to download the album on their own, however, Apple pushed it to iTunes accounts, causing some devices to automatically download the album without explicit user permission.
 
Folks, the issue here is not whether or not you like U2, or whether or not you wanted a free album, or whether the album is good or bad, or how ungrateful you are, or how generous Apple may be.

The real issue here is the method Apple used to "give" it to people. It was opt-out instead of opt-in. And what I think people are actually complaining about is the possibility of Apple setting a precedent. U2 album today... What's next?

It's like receiving an email newsletter you didn't sign up for. Hey, it's free, but you didn't want it, you didn't ask for it, and now it's cluttering up your inbox. Sure, you could flag it as junk or write a rule or click on the unsubscribe link, but now you have to waste your time and energy to NOT see something you never wanted.

Exactly, which is point by asking 5t3f4n for his email address.

Ps. 5t3f4n, ok I get it you're playing hardball. Now not only will you get FREE emails, but I'll also through in a fantastic, newly released album, by rock legends U2! The new album is called "Songs of Innocence" and it is yours free along with FREE emails at no extra cost. Again, just post your primary email and I'll get those right out to you!
 
Because if you shuffle all music, it might play a song from this album, and just one second of U2 is enough to cause permanent hearing damage ;)

Ah got you...I mean I see both sides of the argument. It most probably isn't that big a deal but I can see why people wouldn't want it at all
 
Question...when it's added to your library does it take up space on the phone? Or is it just to stream? If it takes up no space, I guess I don't see what the big deal is

From the article, many people had it download automatically, about 110 megs.

The day I voluntarily sign up to a site or service and provide them with my name, address, phone number and credit card details – then I expect to receive the occasional e-mail.

And you'd include an automatic 110 meg download in that category?
 
Maybe if Apple got with the present rather than 5 years ago and offered 32gb as entry level storage on their iDevices, or indeed the option of an SD card it wouldn't matter. But since they're tight, money-grabbing bastards in this area space is at a premium for many and they might not want some crappy, past-it, political wankers of "rock" album in place of some music they might actually like.

Pull yourself out of Apple's backside for a moment and pretend they were Samsung forcing music onto people's devices, you'd be singing a completely different tune.

Lol. No, I really wouldn't care. Stop expecting other people to throw a fit just because you are. I mean, I'm not expecting other people to agree with me, but I certainly don't think it's a big deal.
 
Yes it is. Sure, you have to "opt to download" but it's automatically in your iCloud account to begin with. I didn't OPT INTO THAT.

100% Crap Ware. Period.

Same method

Same methodology

Same marketing tactics.

Period.

But hey... if you're fine with this, don't use the "CRAP WARE ON ANDROID" excuse or complain if ever in the future, Apple decides to make a deal with Verizon to auto install VZ Navigators on all phones.

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Like I asked in another post.

So, next time if Apple makes a deal with VZ to auto install VZ Navigator on all iPhone 6's for VZW, you won't complain... right?

RIIIIGHT.

This. Is. The. Same....



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Doesn't matter, it's in everyone's iCloud music account. This was a marketing deal between Apple and U2 which is being FORCED on users.

It is *exact* same tactic that VZ uses with Android phones....



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So you won't complain if Apple makes a deal (like they did with u2) with Verizon to auto install VZ Navigator on all iPhone's on VZW?

Yeah... right.



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No, you're not getting the issue.

Again, Like I've presented a number of times on this post. This is the same issue if Apple were to make a deal with VZW to auto install VZ Navigator on all...



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So, don't complain if Apple were to do a deal w/ VZW to auto install their crap ware VZ Navigator on all VZW Iphones. Because guess what,it's the exact same issue.

This is CRAP WARE in the form...




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Because (for the 50th time), this was forced on the user. Just like VZW does with VZW Android phones: FORCE APPS ON USERS like VZ Navigator.

Don't complain in the future if Apple starts doing...

I.... I THINK I get what you're saying... maybe one more time? ;-)
 
Except that it says the opposite in this very article.

That is a matter if interpretation. It says "without explicit user permission", but that's not the whole truth.
Why is it that the album was not downloaded to either of my Macs or my iPhone automatically?
Because I didn't enable automatic downloads.

People who did enable automatic downloads however received, who would've known, automatic downloads.
Don't enable automatic stuff if you obsess over micro-managing things.

But if you did accidentally have them download anyway, just remove the album. No harm done.
Unlike the term "crapware" which has been thrown around in this thread, the U2 album can be deleted at will.
 
I wish they would extend that tool so that I can delete anything from my iTunes library rather than simply being able to hide it.

This would be useful for sure. So much stuff that stayed on only a few minutes, both apps and songs, that I'd just as soon not even have to scroll over in a list.
 
People who did enable automatic downloads however received, who would've known, automatic downloads.

Automatic downloads of media you bought. Is there really any reason a user should expect that setting to mean "send me a hundred megs of something I didn't ask for"? And you don't think there should be any way for a user to get automatic downloads of their purchases but not automatic downloads of whatever promotional stuff Apple decides to do?
 
You seem to have a made a wildly inaccurate (and downright silly) comparison.
The day I voluntarily sign up to a site or service and provide them with my name, address, phone number and credit card details – then I expect to receive the occasional e-mail. Not from some service unknown to me via a complete stranger.

Just like I expect to see low-quality posts (such as yours) by visiting this forum.

You're missing the point dude. I didn't sign up for iTunes to get a free album by a band I don't like. I signed up for iTunes so I could manage music on my phone, buy an occasional album of bands I do like, and subscribe to podcasts. No where did it say they would be giving me free music that I was required to have listed on my purchases. That was my point they are giving me something I did not ask for. That is the definition of Spam.

Before I knew about "Show All Music", I tried to delete the track by swiping left, this didn't work so it downloaded the tracks to my phone. I could not remove the tracks by turning off "Show All Music" or by swiping left. But the link attached to this article worked, so I'm happy about that.
 
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i really can't believe people couldn't just delete it if they don't want it. i bet if it wasn't U2, and if it was some other music act with arguably more [insert your type of credibility here] and a safer option for folks to like, then this move would've been considered genius. But oh hey if iMovie, GarageBand, Keynote, Pages, Numbers are free, then it's cool. wtf do people want!? why does everyone hate everything, what a joke.
 
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