Apple Cuts Price of 1TB iPad Pro Models by $200

EugW said:
While an entry level 11" at 128 GB would be perfect for me, I would consider a 256 GB model too.

Truthfully, I don't really need 6 GB, but I can wait nonetheless, so I may as well wait. My wife is only mildly complaining that she is currently iPad-less. I figure I have a few months before she gets too annoyed for not having an iPad (which would be my hand-me-down 2017 10.5" Pro). :D



It's something like 16 months, but it's hard to say since there have only been 3 generations total. However, a pre-Xmas update after 12 months would be good for sales, esp. in the era of iPadOS 13 and Photoshop for iPad. I betcha Photoshop for iPad will get a prominent on-stage showing in October.
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A 10.5" iPad Pro is pretty good hand me down, all thing considered. The prices on the Refurbs are quite good also. Other than more DRAM and a 128GB storage tier, is there some other feature that prevents you from getting one?

My wife bought herself the 12.9-inch w/512Gb at the end of 2017 when it was on sale (not like they were recently), but all things being equal, she would be better off with an iPhone 11 Pro Max because her iPhone has been her main compute device since she gave up the BlackBerry Curve for an iPhone 5 back in 2013. I dearly wish I could attach a keyboard, Pencil and display to her XR as she gets way more use out of her iPhone than any Apple device in our house. Next up is a HomePod as that would be very beneficial in her studio.
 
I'm hoping that this is just an attempt to clear out stock before they unveil new Pros in October. If they do the whole 1.5 year upgrade cycle I'll be pretty annoyed. I didn't get a new Pro last year because I was getting laid off at the time but I've really been craving an upgrade from my 9.7 inch to a 12.9.

I suspect we will be seeing an October event though, as they had all those model numbers given to that one trade group.
 
newdeal said:
So, out of curiosity what would the use case be for an iPad with 1TB of storage?
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One ...
Large viewer for a tethered studio camera.
https://www.cnet.com/news/hasselblad-x1d-ii-50c-meets-fujifilms-attractive-medium-format-pricing/

Variation on that is as an sdcard/cfcard backup( duplicate ) target in the field from a camera card . ( shoot , fill card , eject card , switch ton2nd card and continue shooting , in parallel back duplicate ejected card , )
A type c card reader is all current iPad Pro requires .
Also again , the screen is far better viewer than any camera . Straightforward edits , etc .

Two ...
Apple had a video in keynote of folks using FiLMiC app to shoot video . The iPad Pro doesn’t quite have iPhone 11 cameras but also could use .
4K video at 60 FPS will soak lots of space .

Similar to above could do video offload from iP11 to this for edits / viewing .
 
Zdigital2015 said:
A 10.5" iPad Pro is pretty good hand me down, all thing considered. The prices on the Refurbs are quite good also. Other than more DRAM and a 128GB storage tier, is there some other feature that prevents you from getting one?

My wife bought herself the 12.9-inch w/512Gb at the end of 2017 when it was on sale (not like they were recently), but all things being equal, she would be better off with an iPhone 11 Pro Max because her iPhone has been her main compute device since she gave up the BlackBerry Curve for an iPhone 5 back in 2013. I dearly wish I could attach a keyboard, Pencil and display to her XR as she gets way more use out of her iPhone than any Apple device in our house.
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1. I have a great big gift card burning a hole in my Apple Wallet.
2. I think my wife would like to have a keyboard, so the 10.5" Pro with keyboard would be good for her.
3. While I often prefer Touch ID (2nd gen) on the iPhone, I think I would prefer Face ID on the iPad.
4. USB support on the 10.5" Pro is PITA. It doesn't provide enough power for even most of my USB flash drives. Having to use a dongle plus external power defeats the point of plugging in USB flash drives. It's just not convenient.
5. I do occasionally edit multimedia files, but my needs are light, and 4 GB is sufficient.

So out of all of that, there is nothing there that requires 6 GB. :D For my wife I have the option of getting a 10.2" iPad with keyboard and just keeping my existing iPad Pro, but I would prefer to upgrade myself, and the iPad Pro 10.5" would be even better for her. Why not just get the existing 2018 iPad Pro? Because I can wait, and I figure that since the iPad Pros have had 4 GB RAM for 4 years now, and the 2018 already has a 6 GB model, there is a very good chance all of the iPad Pros will go 6 GB in the next generation.

Usually I keep my iDevices for a very long time, and in my experience, memory has been the biggest limiting factor. I'm glad I didn't get the 1 GB iPad Air, and waited for the iPad Air 2, and I'm glad I didn't get the 1 GB iPhone 6 for my wife, and got her the 2 GB iPhone 6s... and then I got the 3 GB iPhone 7 Plus which I'll be keeping until next year when I get a 5G iPhone. Also, I find it interesting that I bought my 2009 MacBook Pro with 2 GB and that seemed fine at the time, but now I have 8 GB in it just to surf the net and do email. Yes, it's a decade old, but it is still usable because of the amount of RAM in it. I did get a computer to replace it, which was a 2017 MacBook, but with 16 GB RAM. I didn't care so much about the CPU, but the memory I maxed out. Truthfully 8 GB in a laptop is fine 95% of the time for me, but very occasionally I may need a bit more, and I suspect by 2022, 12 GB would be the better sweet spot for me, so 16 GB it is.
 
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dang! I picked up a 512 a couple months ago and love it, I was tempted to get the 1tb for the future-proofing of 6gb of ram but couldn't chew the extra $400 especially because I don't need the extra storage and 512 is plenty for me. But at $200, I might have done it.
 
toph2toast said:
That doesn't explain the difference in price between the storage options... Make the 256gb version $100 bucks more than the 64gb, not $150. Or maybe since appletv+ is included for a year they are making their money back that way too.
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Why is $100 an acceptable amount but $150 is not? Since it’s completely artificial (to differentiate and up sell) and not based on Cost of components, why is your figure ok and their’s is not?

And why do you focus on the price DIFFERENCE instead of the price? What if apple lowered the 64gb model by $50 and kept the $150 spread? Now the 256gb model costs what you are asking for - is it still improper?

And who’s to say apple didn’t already do that? In other words, maybe the 64gb is already priced below the price point that Apple would want to price it at to meet their costs and desired margin, and the way they make up the money for those few sales of 64gb that occur is to maintain the spread of $150?
 
cmaier said:
Why is $100 an acceptable amount but $150 is not? Since it’s completely artificial (to differentiate and up sell) and not based on Cost of components, why is your figure ok and their’s is not?

And why do you focus on the price DIFFERENCE instead of the price? What if apple lowered the 64gb model by $50 and kept the $150 spread? Now the 256gb model costs what you are asking for - is it still improper?

And who’s to say apple didn’t already do that? In other words, maybe the 64gb is already priced below the price point that Apple would want to price it at to meet their costs and desired margin, and the way they make up the money for those few sales of 64gb that occur is to maintain the spread of $150?
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Why is my figure OK and theirs not.... really? Maybe because the price I came up with is lower and closer to the actual price difference between the retail of 64GB flash storage and 256GB flash storage.... Is that a good enough reason for you? Plus the retail isn't even close to what Apple is paying due to the volume they are buying, its a fraction of that.

And I'm focusing on the difference because its highly inflated vs. the retail prices. I obviously don't know the cost of every component in the iPhone, but the only difference in price points is the memory storage, which is exactly what this article is about (see my originally quoted sentence if you forgot).
 
toph2toast said:
Why is my figure OK and theirs not.... really? Maybe because the price I came up with is lower and closer to the actual price difference between the retail of 64GB flash storage and 256GB flash storage.... Is that a good enough reason for you? Plus the retail isn't even close to what Apple is paying due to the volume they are buying, its a fraction of that.

And I'm focusing on the difference because its highly inflated vs. the retail prices. I obviously don't know the cost of every component in the iPhone, but the only difference in price points is the memory storage, which is exactly what this article is about (see my originally quoted sentence if you forgot).
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But the price you came up with is NOT lower. You came up with a price DIFFERENCE, not a price. So if apple raised the price of the 64gb by $50, and kept the 256gb the same, the price difference is now $100. Would that make you happy?
 
cmaier said:
But the price you came up with is NOT lower. You came up with a price DIFFERENCE, not a price. So if apple raised the price of the 64gb by $50, and kept the 256gb the same, the price difference is now $100. Would that make you happy?
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Yes... i would be ecstatic if apple raised prices to an even more unreasonable level than they currently are... does that answer your question now?
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cmaier said:
But the price you came up with is NOT lower. You came up with a price DIFFERENCE, not a price. So if apple raised the price of the 64gb by $50, and kept the 256gb the same, the price difference is now $100. Would that make you happy?
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The whole point of my original comment is that the article says that apple "often" passes on the savings of lower cost flash storage to their customer, and i find that hard to believe with their pricing structure. If you disagree with that, cool... i legitimately could care less.
 
SDJim said:
I would totally buy this now if not for one thing: I should be able to backup and manage iOS devices on an iPad Pro.

Now that iPadOS is distinct from iOS and the iPad Pro has a USB-c port, it should be possible.
Then, and only then, can it replace my computer. Frankly, I would gladly do it. But if it behaves as an auxiliary device, I can't use it as a primary device.
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Then they wouldn’t be able to force you to get a Mac Mini or something
 
Wow $200 off on only the 1TB models. Earlier this year, I picked up a 256 GB 11” Pro at Micro Center for $200 off Apple’s price. Then a month or so later I picked up a 256GB 12.9” 2018 Pro for $200 off Apple’s price at Best Buy. I haven’t seen savings even close to that since then.
 
I had an external wireless hard drive for my earlier iPad. I need to dig it out and see if it plays well with my iPad Pro 2018. I had to use some app. to access the wireless hard drive. The app. was cumbersome, but I'm guessing that was Apple iOS at the time. Anyway I'd be up for an wireless external drive without a cumbersome third party app. in the way.

For me this might be a cheaper alternative. i do use the iCloud storage system, but I don't always have Wifi.
 
Yojimbo007 said:
No iPad pro is not entirely in a different Market any more than the iPhone 11 pro is from the iPhone 11.. or any other product lineup from entry level to pro level.
Apple has never separated the lineup presentation based on entry level and pro models
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Incorrect. The entry level iPad was introduced in March 2018 at an education centered event. They even went so far as to highlight the education pricing at yesterday's event. The iPad event in late 2018 did not even mention the entry level iPad since it was considered a separate product.
 
G5isAlive said:
Or... it may indicate an update is just around the corner and they are pushing out existing inventory..
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I don’t know if I hope you are correct. It would be great not to spend money. But, Oded + 5g + a13x +++ I’d be in love
 
PickUrPoison said:
iPad Pro is not on a one-year refresh cycle, it’s something like 16-18 month. I personally don’t expect an update until around March.

Samsung makes their own panels, they can afford to use them. OLED panels meeting Apple’s requirements, at 11 to 13” could add $300 or more to the selling price.
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Not to mention I think people don't understand the scale of Apple's supply chain. Apple probably sells 20:1 tablets vs Samsung.
 
GuruZac said:
Not to mention I think people don't understand the scale of Apple's supply chain. Apple probably sells 20:1 tablets vs Samsung.
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Off by an order of magnitude. ( it is closer to 2:1 )

IDC's number 2Q 18 https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS44191918

another source https://www.statista.com/statistics/276635/market-share-held-by-tablet-vendors/

Collectively the Android market ( especially if throw in FireTV as a Android based ) is bigger than the iPadOS market. But yes , there is a wide gap upon individual players on the Android side and what Apple does as the sole iPadOS supplier.
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morley39 said:
This may indicate iPad Pro won't get update until next year...
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Which is consistent.

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/09/02/2020-ipad-pro-rear-3d-sensing-time-of-flight/

There is only some Kuo memo pointing to Q4 2019 - Q1 2020 timeframe for iPad Pro that puts any substantive wind into the iPad Pro coming in Octobers. There were lots of iPad model numbers registered by Apple, but lots of variations on modems can soak that up with just one product.

The -X variants of the A-series typically haven't come at the same time as the iPhone targeted one. Last Fall was a bit of a fluke. The A12X arrived with the A12. But there was no A11X to match the A11. it had been over a year for the X-variant update.

A13X on a bleeding edge process node on a substantively bigger die. ..... probably not coming this Fall. It is going to cost more. Apple is probably going to ride the A12X longer to get a deeper return. [ AppleTV could switch over to A12X which would get to a higher volume faster. But that doesn't have lots os matching rumors. ...Although would make sense to give Apple another excuse to talk about AppleTV+ in October. ]
 
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