So is this 8-core + 8-threads or 16-threads? Surprised this hasn't been brought up in any of the published articles or this forum thread. The fact that it's not mentioned at all anywhere leads me to assume that it's the former (8t), otherwise Apple would explicitly market it.
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Apple Debuts New 8-Core MacBook Pro With Updated Keyboard
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I would think that you would want an external SD Card reader/writer at that point as Apple's SD Card slot on the 2012-2015 was not noted for its speed? Apple sells a USB-C SD Card reader that people say is quite fast...I am sure that Transcend, Sandisk, Lexar, TrippLite, Xcellon or Delkin Devices has a FAST, reliable USB-C reader that would be a better choice for you.
What I don't get is if Apple were really high on the touchbar, why haven't they put more controls for it in the OS? You could buy a software utility but it seems like Apple doesn't even want to invest energy in the touchbar for themselves. I would love a 15" model with NO touchbar. Of course if they did that, I suppose it would be last years processor or something just to smack you for not buying the ingenious touchbar version. Like the 13".
I have a couple to try. 1TB Sabrent Rocket and a 512 GB 970 Pro. Both are supposed to work fine, with the latter being extremely fast.
Why ignore the experience of others? There is enough evidence over the past three years to argue that this design lacks longevity, especially for writers and programmers.
It is now a matter of risk-reward. For some of us, the risk of keyboard failure (among the many other problems, e.g. short flex cable causing LED failure, problems with T2 security chip) is not worth the potential reward of using the product.
Despite increased clocks, portable PCs are seeing little if any performance improvement because (1) the chassis design of many OEMs has not changed over the last few years and (2) the TDP of newer chips have remained fairly constant or slightly increased due to the lack of advancement in Intel’s manufacturing process. Many OEMs were at the thermal limit of 7th Gen chips so increasing the clock speed of the CPU (and this heat generated) will accomplish little in the way of performance because the computer will simply throttle to stay within its thermal limits.
No they have not added the 2019. Someone posted a link to an article with a typo and now being spewed as fact. They added the 2018 to the repair extension. The 2019 is an improved design. Stupid article wasn't proofread and of course MR readers took off with it.
Individual 1 has emboldened haters everywhere.
The CPUs Apple is using for the 15" MacBook Pro are the Core i9-9880H (https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...9880h-processor-16m-cache-up-to-4-80-ghz.html), the Core i9-9980HK (https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...980hk-processor-16m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz.html) and Core i7-9850H (https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...9850h-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html)
All of them offer Hyper-threading 8c/16t or 6c/12t.
A couple of things:
• Have you actually used a 2018 MBP? If not, then you really don't have much of a basis for your opinions.
• While transcoding video with all 6 cores maxed out for a prolonged period of time, I am not getting any throttling - so that pretty much negates your entire post.
• I'm not entirely sure what the firmware update Apple pushed out did (as they didn't go into the details), but if I had to guess it involved both power management and fan speed - if either wasn't working properly, throttling could occur.
• The CPUs in servers (typical Intel Xeons) are drastically different than the CPUs used in consumer machines, let alone laptops. Server CPUs are not optimized for power efficiency as they simply don't need to - hence the massive heat sinks. Mobile CPUs, by their nature, are less powerful than desktop or server CPUs, but as a result are significantly more power efficient and thus produce less heat.
Unless it’s a typo on the Apple website, the new model is covered by the program too. I think that this is a good move from Apple. They don’t want people to think that the keyboard will be a problem, so they give it 4 years of warranty (basically).
For people complaining about this update, I think it is pretty obvious what Apple is doing here. They need more time to come up with a new MacBook design, so in the meantime they are trying to make the existing design as reliable as possible and make the issue disappear until they bring a new design..
For people complaining about this update, I think it is pretty obvious what Apple is doing here. They need more time to come up with a new MacBook design, so in the meantime they are trying to make the existing design as reliable as possible and make the issue disappear until they bring a new design..
I joined this board just so I could like your comment.
They need to fix the keyboard.
Yes, they have. HERE IS THE PAGE https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-service-program-for-mac-notebooks/
What a joke... all that fancy stuff and they still don't manage to fit a 4k display yet calls it the best pro notebook...APPLE said:
Meanwhile the iPad Pro has more pixels than the best "pro notebook"... pathetic...
Also, I've doubts on thermal stability of that machine under load... Change my mind...
I think you are comparing completely different device categories. macOS is not as optimized for battery life as iOS is, and it allows multitasking in the background with no limitations (in iOS there are many limitations imposed), so imagine having such a big display driving all these pixels in UltraHD resolution, or even higher. Battery life would probably be awful. The display of the current MacBook Pro is the best on the market, so I am more than happy with it. When Apple manages to put a bigger resolution display it will of course be great, but first they will have to solve all potential battery life challenges..
Anyone else notice, the 15inch has 9th generation intel, but the 13 inch touch-bar still has 8th generation (perhaps typo)?, so the 13inch only got a new keyboard? Also a shame they kept the non touch-bar 13 inch at 7th gen intel.
Agreed. It looks like they are owning up to the keyboard issue and putting out their best effort at fixing what they have before they finish the redesign.
Some might think the mention of this model in the program means they are not confident, but I believe Apple did this to fully ensure they care about the customers.
Hell - im expecting a 16" STILL.
Apple didn't update their home page or their Mac landing page. (Meanwhile they did when with the imac updates earlier this year.)
something BIG is still lurking
The 6 core i9 chips overheated and throttled. As a consequence, some cpu intensive processes like video rendering were faster on the i7 cpu MBP from the previous year. The article below explains it.
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/macbook-pro-2018-throttling
I personally wouldn't buy such an expensive machine until several months after its release, just to see what issues might crop up. Concerns:
* Will it throttle?
* Is the keyboard reliable?
* Are displays still prone to "stage lighting" due to cabling strain when the laptop is opened?
* Are memory and SSD components upgradeable, say socketed rather than soldered?
* How many and what varieties of ports will be available? (the visual seems to confirm no change there)
Hopefully iFixit will open up one of these for inspection soon.
I think most people complaining about the keyboards and throttle don't even use a MBP. I have the 6 core 2018 with 2 external monitors and run LR and PS at the same time without any problems. I've been using a 2017 MBP for a while too, and have never seen a problem with the keyboard getting stuck. But then again, I'm not sitting in my parent's basement and eating chips over it either.
I really would like to see the iFixit tear down of the new keyboard. I am more than curious what the new material is...