Apple Debuts New 8-Core MacBook Pro With Updated Keyboard

[TheRealAir]

What? MagSafe was the single best invention Apple had since the original mouse.

Exactly, this is why I am still rocking my Macbook Air 2014 ^_^.
I want to use macOS but Apple will force me to using something else.

 

[reserves]

Any thoughts on the 13” vs 15” now that they have different gen processors?

Love the 13” form factor but there’s a big gap in performance now?

 

[Falhófnir]

My initial reaction was that this would be a machine to make 2018 refurb/ clearance versions very popular; looking into it I see the 2018s are only £50 cheaper now than they were before... one step ahead Apple

 

[JosephAW]

Cool, Dongle heaven! Wait... thermal issues...

 

[Jax44]

MAC business not doing anny good in 2019, maybe marketing is paying someone or some AI to make hype and push sales, and sorry from Appple for all thhhese typpo errors, but I'm tryingg to typpe from a late 2016 MBP keyboard thhat needs service.

Good one

 

[31 Flavas]

I thought it was 14!

Hm... maybe it changed recently? I thought it was 30, but clearly that isn't the case anymore - if it ever was.

 

[Minxy]

I really love products, but this doesn't mean they should be above criticism. Everyone here is an example of someone who, as our American friends would say, has been drinking the Kool Aid. A text book example of a person who feels it is their responsibility to 'defend' Apple on a forum. I'm allowed to express my opinion.

People, stop holding your breath for a moment that isn't coming. Every single thread about the MBP has at least one guy like this. Apple has invested in the touch bar. If you don't like it, don't use it. They're not going to placate a tiny percentage of the computer market by releasing a special pro machine just for you, so you can claim to your friends that you saved $100 by forcing Apple's hand and getting them to ditch a feature you didn't like. Either accept the touch bar or get a PC.

The MacBook Pro is used by many photography and video creatives. The prime portable medium used in cameras are SD cards. It makes life easy if they can be easily taken out of the camera and put straight into the MacBook without a hardware interface. It's a simple as that.

 

[Shaggymax]

As always the spec that suits my use case is $3699....

 

[splitpea]

Still no 32gb 13”?

 

[phillytim]

I feel like we've been here a couple times before, with a promise that the keyboard has been fixed.

For the ridiculous premium price Apple charges, it's ludicrous to put up with the promises and failures of this hardware.

 

[PickUrPoison]

13" model still with the old CPUs... :-/

The 13” TB has the newest 28W CPUs that Intel just released, a 2.4/4.1GHz model and a 2.8/4.7GHz.

The 13” non-Touch Bar is still using 7th gen 15W CPU with integrated GT3e (Iris Pro) graphics, since Intel has nothing newer in this class. Intel’s newer 15W parts only have GT2 graphics, and Apple doesn’t use those parts as they would provide poor graphics performance without adding a discrete GPU chip.

 

[Schneepard]

I wish they drop the animoji bar and make the keys press deeper for better feel..

 

[antonis]

Wow another 'updated keyboard'. Soon the MBP keyboards will reach the 2015 levels. Go apple go !

(meanwhile, 2018 MBP models with 'updated keyboards' got included in the extended keyboard replacement program)

 

[PickUrPoison]

I wonder if we are now back to "normal" with the Mac mini left behind An 8 core processor would make more sense in that I think, married to an egpu it would make a little powerhouse.

The mini has the latest CPUs available in the 65W mobile CPU class; Intel hasn’t yet issued any newer parts than those the mini was released with last year.

 

[soiramk]

So... no form factor change this year, no change to T2 chip, no 16-inch?
Or there's a chance to have another MacBook release soon?

 

[lilrush]

This design barely worked with 6 cores. I'd honestly want to see redesigned thermals if they were to launch an 8 core. Perhaps even a GPU upgrade to keep up. But honestly in my mind all they had to do was step back to the 2012 keyboard and they would have a beautiful macbook pro again. The feel was just so great and they were bulletproof. I'm running a 2012 and as a student I throw thousands of words at it per day. It's never missed a step.

 

[manni]

The mini has the latest CPUs.

That's strange, I've just re-checked the UK (where I am) site and it still doesn't list the 8 core as an option. Maybe the site hasn't been updated. That's great if they have updated the mini too.

 

[LordVic]

This design barely worked with 6 cores. I'd honestly want to see redesigned thermals if they were to launch an 8 core. Perhaps even a GPU upgrade to keep up. But honestly in my mind all they had to do was step back to the 2012 keyboard and they would have a beautiful macbook pro again. The feel was just so great and they were bulletproof. I'm running a 2012 and as a student I throw thousands of words at it per day. It's never missed a step.

I think that they've sort of gotten around thermal throttling, by throttling the chips before they hit max via limiting their power envelope.

IIRC, there was a Linus Tech Tip video where they delved into this recently. While the iMac for example could hit max turbo boost speeds for very short periods of time fine, if the CPU goes under consistent heavy load, the CPU isn't allowed to hit that max turbo speed, allowing for the fans to ramp up slower and the device to stay cooler overall. You gain more consistently over the load time, but you lose overall max power.

 

[gsurf123]

Too late Apple. Now I know I can live without Mac OS, Windows 10 is as good and also laptops with touch screen and pen input are very useful. I also do not want to beta test the 4th gen butterfly keyboard.

Then why are you posting here? Move on to one of the various Windows forums.

 

[AutomaticApple]

I'm amazed by how many people still think there are throttling issues, when Apple fixed the problem.

We live in a world full of uninformed people.
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As pathetic as it sounds

That doesn't sound pathetic at all.

 

[deputy_doofy]

Nice assumption.

I'm not complaining about the keyboard usability.

I'm complaining about the reliability.

Agreed. I can adapt to the usability. What's prevented me from even looking to replace my 2013 MBP (besides the fact that it's a beast still) is that I'm not going to drop $2500+ on a machine whose keyboard is known to fail.
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That video was made BEFORE Apple fixed the throttling issues via a firmware update.

I'm amazed by how many people still think there are throttling issues, when Apple fixed the problem.

There are knuckleheads still claiming Macs can't right-click, don't have any software, and that Microsoft owns Apple (though we can blame Pirates of Silicon Valley for that last one). You can't fix stupid.

 

[JamesMcJameson]

Sometimes I hate Apple for this. I JUST bought a Macbook 3 weeks ago!

You're right. Someone should create some kind of website where you can see if it's save to buy an apple product.
I would call it "guide for buyers" or something like that.

 

[ConfluxNZ]

Don’t mind me, I’m just here to harvest all the salt in the comments section

 

[curtvaughan]

macOS has lost its shine for me. The whole idea of a traditional laptop feels very dated at this point. I’m looking forward to the transition to Apple’s own ARM chips and some interesting new form factors. At that point, I’m hoping they tighten the OS up, or just use iOS instead.

I guess the college kids didn't get the news - nearly all of them use laptops on a daily basis (I refer to University of Texas). Apple laptops, over the last several years, are seen less and less in favor of Dells, Lenovos, and HPs, and most of the MacBooks one sees have the lit up Apple logo, indicating they are at least several years old. I suspect price and lack of ports on the new Macs are the main causes. College students make frequent use of thumb drives and need type A USB ports. I suppose USB C flash drives will eventually be more common, but that hasn't happened yet. One also sees an increasing use of hybrid devices like the MS Surface, but it is quite rare to see iPads on campus. Over the last few years, particularly with the advent of the pencil for iPad Pros, iPads are gaining a lot of traction with performing musicians. Over the last couple of years I've started using my iPad rather than sheet music whenever possible - with software like ForScore most public domain sheet music is available in PDF form and can be input into the software for marking/editing with the pencil. It takes a little work, but for non-PDF music one can take photos of the music with a phone or tablet camera for input into ForScore and the like. This is so much more convenient than messing with hard copy sheet music, and one doesn't have to worry about external lighting to see the music in performance / rehearsal. My point is that Apple should push the iPad as a solution where it shines rather than as a substitute for laptops. I hope they won't make them so thin that bending becomes an issue. That would be a show stopper for me.

 

[myrtlebee]

Apple's confirmed that third gen keyboard devices (e.g. 2018 MBPs) will be replaced by gen 3.1 keyboards if they fail.

Where is your proof for this? Link to source please.