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Apple Debuts New 8-Core MacBook Pro With Updated Keyboard
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This seems more like an emergency update to address the keyboard issues.
Faster is nice but already the MBP runs very hot.
Top of the line 13" MacBook Pro for $CA2,649.00 only comes with 8GB ram. What a ****ing joke for the price.
Oh well, so much for the expected redesign...
- Thermals are still a concern.
- Keyboard is yet another revision of the butterfly one.
- If you want four ports, you still have to go for the TouchBar-equipped model.
I liked the previous keyboard A LOT. I've been using my MacBook Pro now for 2 years and like it even more. Mind you that I didn't have any malfunctions or anything. If it works this keyboard is MILES ahead of the previous one.
And at those prices, they are a total steal. Said no one ever. 
I want the 17" to come back - not the 16". But with 8 cores, who cares? 15" will do!
Funny how mine, and everyone else at work works just fine...yet people like you insist its a failure/disaster *eye roll*. A few people having issues doesn't mean the entire thing is a flop.
This is confusing. The keyboard isn't mentioned in the product description. Is it only the 'New' 13" MBP that has had the keyboard upgrade? And apart from the 'New' badge, how do we tell these 13" MBPs apart?
I'm no longer in the market as I think the design of the butterfly keyboard is flawed. I truely do hope for mac fans that this does fix the issue once and for all. I had hoped that was the case with the 3rd generation.
The other short comings coupled with the keyboard drove me to find a solution in the PC world. I'm quite content with a thinkpad and while I'll not derail the conversation here. Suffice to say I'm very happy with it.
Regarding the new MBPs, I wonder how hot/cool these will run given that the prior gen ran very hot and the enclosure has not changed.
The other short comings coupled with the keyboard drove me to find a solution in the PC world. I'm quite content with a thinkpad and while I'll not derail the conversation here. Suffice to say I'm very happy with it.
Regarding the new MBPs, I wonder how hot/cool these will run given that the prior gen ran very hot and the enclosure has not changed.
As an owner of a 2018 13" Macbook Pro I am happy that Apple extended the keyboard repair program and I was also happy to hear that if a repair is needed, 2018 models would get the new material too, which let's just hope it resolves all issues with the keyboard. I haven't experienced any issues yet and I hope this will not change for the next 2-3 years, till I get a new laptop Having said that, I like the butterfly keyboard a lot, much better than the old design (reliability issues aside). I also liked the new specs of this Macbook refresh. 8 Cores on a laptop is great, especially for people that need all that power. With this new update Apple is showing everybody that they haven't forgotten about the Mac and that makes me feel satisfied, as I am more of a Mac guy instead of iOS..
Having said that, I like the butterfly keyboard a lot, much better than the old design (reliability issues aside). I also liked the new specs of this Macbook refresh. 8 Cores on a laptop is great, especially for people that need all that power. With this new update Apple is showing everybody that they haven't forgotten about the Mac and that makes me feel satisfied, as I am more of a Mac guy instead of iOS..If I'm reading this right, they've made some effort to improve reliability of the keyboard (time will tell) -- but the abysmal failure rate is only part of the problem with the Butterfly keyboard.
The other huge factor is that it has terrible tactile response. Sure, people can "get used to it" but it's not great. Unless the tactile response of the keyboard is addressed by restoring some normal key travel (or, something) then I'm still out.
The other huge factor is that it has terrible tactile response. Sure, people can "get used to it" but it's not great. Unless the tactile response of the keyboard is addressed by restoring some normal key travel (or, something) then I'm still out.
The 2018 CPU was 2.3GHz-3.8 turbo and the new is 2.4GHz-4.1 turbo. So it looks like the 13" gets a slight CPU speed increase plus the mentioned keyboard changes.
Not upgrading until the ****** touch-bar is removed
Would probably snag this up if they keyboard works. Just my fright of getting a new computer with a non functioning keyboard has been holding me back at this point lol. Hoping they allow for more customization too now that they have 8 cores. That's even more heat than the 6 core, I'd love a MBP that allows me to snag the lowest baseline 8 core model with the lowest Vega model. I want mine as quiet and cool as possible while still getting the newest architecture in it for those added benefits.
Your MBP is also running cooler and doesn't have the T2 chip. I would call that a win win
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That is like saying "Man o man, where has my chip gone" Time for a RISC resurrection. Blame intel deals for that. Cheap stuff...
So my vega 20 macbook can go into repair to get new keyboard, sweet now i seem to have an issue that's good to know so this years macbooks just have a cpu boost, apple really is losing it, so 2020 for a redesign come on
that's good to know so this years macbooks just have a cpu boost, apple really is losing it, so 2020 for a redesign come on
Sold separately.
They just can't bring themselves to admit that the design of the butterfly mechanism is flawed.
They added a membrane and that didn't fix the problem; and now they've changed the material the mechanism is made of. I hope for the sake of everyone who buys this machine that the change of material actually addresses the problem, but I'm not hopeful.
I'd love to know how many iterations there were of the old scissor mechanism. I'm guessing they didn't revise it each time a new model was introduced -- which is what they've done ever since the butterfly mechanism was added to the lineup.
They added a membrane and that didn't fix the problem; and now they've changed the material the mechanism is made of. I hope for the sake of everyone who buys this machine that the change of material actually addresses the problem, but I'm not hopeful.
I'd love to know how many iterations there were of the old scissor mechanism. I'm guessing they didn't revise it each time a new model was introduced -- which is what they've done ever since the butterfly mechanism was added to the lineup.
Waiting for the next articles about the new issues of this laptop 