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not counting social apps (since seemingly most who use, have 10-20 of them), do many people ever use more than a core 10 apps? if i wasn't interested in music apps i'd probably only use an average of 5. maybe a game now and again but most don't have much replay value.

can't imagine much more than 100K apps exist that'd ever be worth checking out. i personally know someone who claims to have 30 apps on the app store, of which i've seen many. his goal isn't to make good apps, it's to have tons of them up, as if one of them will strike gold and it's just a matter of time. i guarantee none of them see more than 50 DLs in his lifetime.
 
It appears you've not tried, or are familiar with PCalc.

EDIT: And PCalc has been available for iPhone since 2008.

I have. And it's not as good as Real Calc. It appears you haven't tried Real Calc on Android. It's been around for several years. Real Calc has unit conversions and physical constants in a far more intuitive UI than anything else.
 
"If it's not an iPhone, it's not an iPhone."

What the hell does that even mean? :eek:
It means that "iPhone" has to a certain extent become a generic trademark, i.e. some people might use the words "iPhone" and "smartphone" interchangeably (though that seems to be more widespread with the iPad than the iPhone).
 
I have. And it's not as good as Real Calc. It appears you haven't tried Real Calc on Android. It's been around for several years. Real Calc has unit conversions and physical constants in a far more intuitive UI than anything else.

Wrong. I have and it does physical constants and conversions just like PCalc. Enter a number, select a unit, and you automatically see a list of of real-time conversions for all other units that are available for selection. And, like constants, all are editable.

Regarding your assertion: "iOS has a lousy scientific calculator," why do you believe it's a lousy scientific calculator? Please be very specific in its deficiencies that make it lousy.
 
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I would brag about the quality of apps only, not the quantity. There are so many crappy filler apps in the store, the 1.5 million number is meaningless.
 
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But not too forgettable to talk about it, which is exactly what you're doing. ;) I would say Apple's ad did exactly what it was intended to do. Get people talking about it, whether positive or negative. Still a win for Apple.

You've never talked about something forgettable? Wtf kinda logic is that? You do realize this is a discussion board and people share opinions right? And since this place is an apple forum, yes...we talk about it simply because the subject matter is right up our alley. Doesn't mean this ad isn't forgettable. It's not exactly going to go down in history like the old iPod ads of Mac vs pc
 
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The idea isn't bad, but the execution is lacking. Not as elegant as Chiat/Day's ads. I also found the narrator a bit smarmy in tone. It's also odd that they would use apps that are actually available on Android, such as Monument Valley.
 
I liked the theatrical ads, with their implicit way of telling how powerful these tools are, and what they can do for everyone. The new "The App Effect" is a phenomenal ad and gives me goosebumps.

These new cheeky ads are completely off the mark, and don't sit well with Apple's general way of marketing at all. And "1.5 million apps" is impossible to relate to; "What am I going to do with 1.5 million apps? Does that mean I have to look through endless pages of apps just to find what I'm looking for?"
 
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Exactly, because you tried out most of those 1.5 million apps to confirm that right?

Thanks for the morning laugh :) in my experience, there is a lot of great apps, but the majority of stuff in the App Store can be considered crap. No need to try them all, search for one app and see how much crap comes back....

I saw a Nielsen survey a while back that a user uses about 30 apps on average per month.
 
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1.5 million hand-picked, awe inspiring, best apps.... No.

The ad should have been on the quality of apps in the apps store, they are the best.

These days I actually find quantity to be a hinderance, as I have to look through a lot of crap to find a good app, and there are so many copies.
 
"If it's not an iPhone, it's not an iPhone."

What the hell does that even mean? :eek:

I suppose you've never done end-user support? I have actually talked to people who say they have an iPad, and when I start giving them directions that are iOS-centric they start saying "I don't have that" or "I don't see that".

I really comes down to me asking "Is there an Apple logo on the back of this tablet?"
"No."
"It's not an iPad then."
And we have to start again with me finding a guide for whatever "special" skinned version of Android their device maker uses.
 
Talk about simplicity...

cool music.. no one would know what that tag line means... only Apple does, which is why they came up with it :D
 
I suppose you've never done end-user support? I have actually talked to people who say they have an iPad, and when I start giving them directions that are iOS-centric they start saying "I don't have that" or "I don't see that".

I really comes down to me asking "Is there an Apple logo on the back of this tablet?"
"No."
"It's not an iPad then."
And we have to start again with me finding a guide for whatever "special" skinned version of Android their device maker uses.

You truly must have the patience of a saint!!!!! I could not do your job :)
 
I really like these iPhone ads.

Wouldn't mind some iOS vs Android ads (like the Mac vs PC). Or at least lines like 'unlike other smartphones, there is no malware or piracy on the App Store'.

People take enough digs at Apple, it'd be good if they showed off where they're ahead.
 
Akin to the Rolling Stones releasing another "Greatest Hits" album with 75% of the songs from previous "Greatest Hits" albums. These iPhone ads are ads to make ads. They have lost their interest value because there is nothing new to keep the viewer engaged. <Apple "yes-men" and yes-women", excepted, of course>

After the just released ambiguous AW ads and now these "haven't I seen these before" iPhone ads, I don't get why Apple doesn't make some ads featuring the the iPhone with the Apple Watch showing how the two work great together. That would be something different and it might help explain the AW to the still mystified general public.
 
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But not too forgettable to talk about it, which is exactly what you're doing. ;) I would say Apple's ad did exactly what it was intended to do. Get people talking about it, whether positive or negative. Still a win for Apple.

3 pages of people on an Apple forum talking about it, it's not like it got global press and comments all over social media.

Either way it's a weird ad but one that looks pretty cool for me.
 
2014: Bragged about apps, sells iPhone 5c with just 8GB storage
2015: Bragged about apps, .... and sells iPhone xx with just xxGB?

I understand about margins and upselling, but sometimes the contradiction between ads and product offering annoys me. Yes, they sell 128GB iPhones, but come on, the ones that most people would be looking to buy will be either the cheapest flagship (16GB iPhone 6) or free on contract (8GB 5c), and both don't jive with the amount of apps available being touted.
 
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1.5 million hand-picked, awe inspiring, best apps.... No.

The ad should have been on the quality of apps in the apps store, they are the best.

These days I actually find quantity to be a hinderance, as I have to look through a lot of crap to find a good app, and there are so many copies.

Not sure Apple can even boast the quality of the apps either. We all know the vast majority of that 1.5m are crap apps. I'm sure Android has the same good to crap app ratio themselves. This is a fact I'm sure most everyone knows in both the Apple and Android camps, so then who is this ad really trying to convince? The select few buying a smartphone for the first time in their lives? That's what makes these kinds of ads pointless that impress hardly anyone.

"If it's not an iPhone, then it's not an iPhone". You can bet that those committed to Android are thinking, "thank God!" at that statement. We would be saying that same thing if Samsung made a commercial making that statement, so I'm not sure who Apple is trying to impress with that either. Could be effective for those who defected to Android to give them the motivation to come back to Apple. Otherwise, I think most people have chosen their camp of choice and these types of ads by either company aren't going to make people switch no matter how clever they are.
 
Not sure Apple can even boast the quality of the apps either. We all know the vast majority of that 1.5m are crap apps. I'm sure Android has the same good to crap app ratio themselves. This is a fact I'm sure most everyone knows in both the Apple and Android camps, so then who is this ad really trying to convince? The select few buying a smartphone for the first time in their lives? That's what makes these kinds of ads pointless that impress hardly anyone.

"If it's not an iPone, then it's not an iPhone". You can bet that those committed to Android are thinking, "thank God!" at that statement. We would be saying that same thing if Samsung made a commercial making that statement, so I'm not sure who Apple is trying to impress with that either. Could be effective for those who defected to Android and now realize just how subpar their OS is, to give them the motivation to come back to Apple. Otherwise, I think most people have chosen their camp of choice and these types of ads by either company aren't going to make people switch no matter how clever they are.
 
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