Same battery life I suppose. Better battery life would lure me into trying this screen again. The M4 made my eyeballs feel like they were going to start bleeding.
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Apple Debuts New iPad Pro With M5 Chip, Faster Charging, and More
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With the 17 pro's having a PWM toggle, there is a 100% chance the same toggle will be available.
Apple will not outright remove PWM as that defeats the purpose, but there will be an on/off toggle.
Yawn. Just update the iPad every 3yrs.
I’ve got some wonderful news for you! You can just ignore this M5 update and go on with your life like it was never even announced! Have a good day!
Big swing and a miss on the two camera rumor from Gurman.
My bedroom TVs built in Roku has gotten really slow so I want to buy an Apple TV 4K, but I'm afraid a month or so after I buy it, they will announce new ones. LOL
I still have my A12X iPad Pro and it's fine right now for me, so... LOLI think this is finally a worthy successor to the A12X iPads. (Plus the screen cracked on ours a while ago, but it's definitely starting to show its age anyway.)
I see a base 11" model (maybe 13" if I'm lucky!) in my future for Christmas.
100%. I don’t think the battery is that great at all on the iPad Pro line up.
There’s a lot of people, like me, who only went for 1TB for the ram increase. Didn’t even need the extra CPU core.
They’ve shot themselves in the foot for not increasing the 1TB RAM above 16GB. Lots will go for 12GB and 512.
They’ve shot themselves in the foot for not increasing the 1TB RAM above 16GB. Lots will go for 12GB and 512.
Siri would be 3.5x faster if they just wrote it properly.That's nice - means Siri is 3.5 faster at not understanding my question or delivering the wrong answer !
We still have a lot of October left.
Apple may be gearing up to launch their ultimate TV product. Imagine being able to not just stream your favorite Movies and Shows, but to stream MacOS & PC games (via GFN) natively.
Would absolutely destroy the Xbox.
That’s great, it’s such a good device. I definitely didn’t tax ours. However, just loading Mail, Messages, Disney+ (to watch a movie) or ESPN (to catch a hockey game), I definitely noticed some pretty big lagging. Maybe I could do a fresh install? However, I know 7 years was a good run. If the screen wasn’t cracked, I’d still keep it!
The M4 iPad Pros with 8GB ram will likely stop getting OS updates in 2 to 3 years so don’t be so optimistic.No need to upgrade from M4 for like 8 years.
At the very least, it will not be getting most of the new features.
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Just upgrade every 3 years. When you upgrade is your choice.
Love the nano and would not go back to a normal screen.
The screen work as intended ,the users eyes are defective hence user error
Hardly, al won’t require that much ram. Certainly not for basic tasks either
The M1 iPad Pro is currently 4 years and 5 months old as of today, October 15, 2025. With either 8GB or 16GB of RAM. The M1 still received OS 26. Apple roughly hold a 4-5 years of OS updates before being phased out.
The M4 iPad pros will last to 2030.
As someone else said, the iPad is a mature device. It functions extremely well for what it is supposed to do. What “innovation” does it need? Over the M1 iPad, I see a better screen (OLED), faster processor, superior wireless radio, more RAM, better support for peripherals.
I prefer these iterative updates — giving iPad users what they need. Apple should not tack on junk and bloat no one wants or needs in the name of “innovation.”
I can’t tell if you’re joking or not, but a low PWM rate has been measured, objectively, on iPad Pro M4 by NotebookCheck:
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And there are many reports of this model of iPad in particular causing more issues than other OLED devices, which I personally suspect is due to the tandem OLED resulting in a different PWM waveform.
Furthermore, a low PWM rate is not a necessity by design. iPhones 13, for example, had rates that were high enough to be tolerable to people with sensitivities.
I don’t see how it’s “user error” to experience a physiological response to a stimulus?? Everybody’s got different visual systems. Nothing wrong with wanting an update that mitigates the conditions that could prevent someone from using the device.
Pick up an Amazon Firestick 4k or 4k Max when it goes on sale, as a temporary solution. You can also take it with you when you travel, use it in hotels (we do). I’ve seen the 4k Firestick on sale for like ~ $40 on occasion. Worth it.
Then get your Apple TV when released.