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Apple Delays Leopard Release
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McCaslin is specifically built with the UMPC form factor in mind, inspired by the work they did on Santa Rosa...
http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=453
...details are still fuzzy, official release is 18th of April at IDF...
PS - thanks for the 2007 error, post edited
Apple LIED.
What bothers me is that as recently as lastweek, Apple came out and vigorously denied the report from Digitimes (which originated from Japan, no less) that stated that Leopard is delayed until October.
Apple KNEW one week ago that it wasn't going to happen. But they panicked thinking that consumers, if they thought Leopard was delayed for another 6 mos, would hold off on buying a Mac, ruining this quarter's revenue. So they issued this denial. Now what possibly changed in just one week that pushed back the release to October? It is not the delays that annoy me...I want a product that works. What bothers me is the manipulation and lying to maintain a profit. It backfired on Apple this time. Apple has successfully played this game for a while, hiding release dates and features to maximize profits (sucks for those buying a MBP the day before Apple announces a new MBP for the same price). Apple needs to come clean- let us know what the date of release of a new iMac and laptop is going to be, what the new features in Leopard are going to be, and whether it will be 100% functional with the current systems, or are there extra features that will only be supported by new hardware.
There is no more Microsoft Vista photocopier excuse- Vista is out. Apple stock is going to plummet, and nobody is going to buy a Mac if they are smart, at least until June's WWDC - and maybe later, depending on what Apple announces.
If MS was clever, they'd start their own ads to the effect of "Apple must be running their photocopiers, now that Vista is out. They must be surprised by something they needed to copy into Leopard" Likely not true, but Apple would have done this to MS.
I refuse to switch from my PC (running XP) to Mac until I feel Apple is being honest...
Apple denies Mac OS X Leopard delays
Apple has denied circulating rumors of delays in Mac OS X Leopard, its next-generation operating system. A report by Michael Gartenberg of JupiterResearch says that Apple has confirmed Leopard will ship in the "spring", contrary a rumor floated by the somewhat unreliable Asian Digitimes publication. Last week, it claimed that Apple was going to delay the release of Leopard--until possibly October--to allow Leopard to support Windows Vista via Boot Camp. "The rumor mill is wrong again," Gartenberg wrote in his blog. The company, however, in February flatly denied delays in shipment of its revolutionary Apple TV set-top until just a few days before launch, despite published reports to the contrary. The much-anticipated device, formally introduced in January at Macworld Expo, was delayed by just over three weeks and began arriving in customers hands last week.
What bothers me is that as recently as lastweek, Apple came out and vigorously denied the report from Digitimes (which originated from Japan, no less) that stated that Leopard is delayed until October.
Apple KNEW one week ago that it wasn't going to happen. But they panicked thinking that consumers, if they thought Leopard was delayed for another 6 mos, would hold off on buying a Mac, ruining this quarter's revenue. So they issued this denial. Now what possibly changed in just one week that pushed back the release to October? It is not the delays that annoy me...I want a product that works. What bothers me is the manipulation and lying to maintain a profit. It backfired on Apple this time. Apple has successfully played this game for a while, hiding release dates and features to maximize profits (sucks for those buying a MBP the day before Apple announces a new MBP for the same price). Apple needs to come clean- let us know what the date of release of a new iMac and laptop is going to be, what the new features in Leopard are going to be, and whether it will be 100% functional with the current systems, or are there extra features that will only be supported by new hardware.
There is no more Microsoft Vista photocopier excuse- Vista is out. Apple stock is going to plummet, and nobody is going to buy a Mac if they are smart, at least until June's WWDC - and maybe later, depending on what Apple announces.
If MS was clever, they'd start their own ads to the effect of "Apple must be running their photocopiers, now that Vista is out. They must be surprised by something they needed to copy into Leopard" Likely not true, but Apple would have done this to MS.
I refuse to switch from my PC (running XP) to Mac until I feel Apple is being honest...
Apple denies Mac OS X Leopard delays
Apple has denied circulating rumors of delays in Mac OS X Leopard, its next-generation operating system. A report by Michael Gartenberg of JupiterResearch says that Apple has confirmed Leopard will ship in the "spring", contrary a rumor floated by the somewhat unreliable Asian Digitimes publication. Last week, it claimed that Apple was going to delay the release of Leopard--until possibly October--to allow Leopard to support Windows Vista via Boot Camp. "The rumor mill is wrong again," Gartenberg wrote in his blog. The company, however, in February flatly denied delays in shipment of its revolutionary Apple TV set-top until just a few days before launch, despite published reports to the contrary. The much-anticipated device, formally introduced in January at Macworld Expo, was delayed by just over three weeks and began arriving in customers hands last week.
err, ok would you like some kindling to go along with your fit of despair?
No, but if you can find a good how-to guide on hari-kari I'd appreciate it.
Its not on Apple's start page nor anywhere esle but /hotnews... could a MAC server of been hacked?!?!?!?! ZOMGERZZZ!!! Or maybe apple haven't got round to adding it to the rest of their site.
Talk about an overreaction. Depending on how long it is delayed, most people, your average consumer, really couldn't give a cr*p about Leopard being delayed. Much like they didn't give a cr*p about Vista being delayed.
I have four thoughts:
[1] Mac OS X 10.0 was supposed to be in beta by Spring (2000) and shipping Summer (2000).
It arrived Saturday March 24th, 2001.
So this isn't a long delay in comparison.
[2] People who say most people care about iPod/iPhone are not wrong, but at the same time I feel Apple would be unwise not nor look after / aim to please the type of people who post on here, as we (at least most of us) are amongst their most loyal customers.
[3] Finally, the company only has a finite numbers of engineers. There are probably only a finite number of people in the world with the talent, skills, ability, desire, motivation etc. to work on these large projects like OS X for iPhone and Mac OS X Leopard.
Therefore I don't think it is totally inconceivable to believe they shifted resources from Leopard to iPhone.
[4] Delaying iPhone would only get it in the media again, which would be not necessarily be the worst thing in the world. All adds to the hype. Mac OS X is a product which is already out, but is getting older and competitors are catching up (MS with vista, the Linux community with Ubuntu). Maybe there is a better case for resources to be allocated to it and not the iPhone. But we don't have all the details, and far more intelligent and experienced people than me probably made the decision anyway.
I'm disappointed, but life goes on.
[1] Mac OS X 10.0 was supposed to be in beta by Spring (2000) and shipping Summer (2000).
It arrived Saturday March 24th, 2001.
So this isn't a long delay in comparison.
[2] People who say most people care about iPod/iPhone are not wrong, but at the same time I feel Apple would be unwise not nor look after / aim to please the type of people who post on here, as we (at least most of us) are amongst their most loyal customers.
[3] Finally, the company only has a finite numbers of engineers. There are probably only a finite number of people in the world with the talent, skills, ability, desire, motivation etc. to work on these large projects like OS X for iPhone and Mac OS X Leopard.
Therefore I don't think it is totally inconceivable to believe they shifted resources from Leopard to iPhone.
[4] Delaying iPhone would only get it in the media again, which would be not necessarily be the worst thing in the world. All adds to the hype. Mac OS X is a product which is already out, but is getting older and competitors are catching up (MS with vista, the Linux community with Ubuntu). Maybe there is a better case for resources to be allocated to it and not the iPhone. But we don't have all the details, and far more intelligent and experienced people than me probably made the decision anyway.
I'm disappointed, but life goes on.
This is ridiculous. It really isn't that big a deal folks. Leopard will be better because of this move. I welcome that decision.
The iPhone is a big step for Apple. You all seem to forget that a major reason Apple is still in business is the iPod. Apple wants the iPhone to be like that as well, and it will be.
October is only six months away.
And most importantly. Tiger isn't broken. It is still (IMO) the best OS out there aside from some custom Linux action
Most of you want change for the sake of change. If they ship a Leopard box with a piece of crap in it I think you would still embrace. Calm down. Use your computer like you have been for the next 6 months and guess what.... Leopard
The iPhone is a big step for Apple. You all seem to forget that a major reason Apple is still in business is the iPod. Apple wants the iPhone to be like that as well, and it will be.
October is only six months away.
And most importantly. Tiger isn't broken. It is still (IMO) the best OS out there aside from some custom Linux action
Most of you want change for the sake of change. If they ship a Leopard box with a piece of crap in it I think you would still embrace. Calm down. Use your computer like you have been for the next 6 months and guess what.... Leopard
I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone's talking as if the only two options are move people to 10.5 development or move them to iPhone development. Apple should have bit the bullet and HIRED more people. Take a small loss to pay the salary of more employees and get your **** out on time.
This is really upsetting. I'm not usually one to bash Apple, but this has been an awful year. I love my AppleTV, but one of the main reasons is I sort of have to. It's looking to be the only new product of 2007.
Apple has abandoned it's base, there's no question about it. They need to tak computer back on to their name.
I'm not just saying all this is my opinion - read this thread! Sure there are three or four people saying "STOP WHINING!" but other than that everyone seems pretty disappointed. This looks really bad for Apple. If they don't rush us out some new hardware or something they're going to have a SERIOUS PR problem.
Wow I haven't seen this many over reactive cry babies since Kindergarten. What is wrong with you people....so what you have to wait an extra few months big deal....and what is so horribly wrong with Tiger that this is the end of the world. Get some perspective people....Yeah this sucks, but life will go on and in 6 months we will all go down to our local apple stores and get Leopard and forget this ever happened. Oh and BTW, I have been a mac fanatic for over 15 years, but some of us actually appreciate the other markets Apple is getting into....I for one an glad that it is leopard that is delayed and not the iPhone...Tiger works great and I am much more excited about the iPhone then a few new bells and whistles....Apple is much more then a computer company now and has to prioritize much more then ever before, so for those of you who don't like apple because of that, go buy a crap ass PC and whine on their user boards! No wonder PC users hate Mac people, listen to yourselves....Ridiculous
PS-I really don't think that a few month delay in Leopard even comes close to comparing to a several year delay with Vista.
PS-I really don't think that a few month delay in Leopard even comes close to comparing to a several year delay with Vista.
No. Iphone too big... iPhone too expensive... iPhone not enough memory, 8gb?... iPhone will need lame case so it doesn't scratch... iPhone ummm too EXPENSIVE.
We need a New OS that will take advantage of multiple cores PERIOD. Tiger can't handle it.
Well....I wonder if this will slow down ticket sales to WWDC...
October is quite a while from June, especially when it seemed like March was a possible release date. Maybe they'll decide to put it out earlier like in August or something.
October is quite a while from June, especially when it seemed like March was a possible release date. Maybe they'll decide to put it out earlier like in August or something.
I made at least one person happy today
I don't think those options are superior to Mac OS X yet (I also didn't say that). It is questionable if Apple has the main focus on OS/Applications at the moment, let alone in the future. On the other hand the open source community is likely to improve their products continually over a long period, specially since major companies support the them (and profit through related services, like Sun, Novell, IBM).
Linux, MySQL and Apache grabs more and more of the MS market share and I can remember when Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer had a good laugh at the beginning.
I would never think about laughing about open source... it might be only a question of time and the interest of a small group of developers to harm Mac OS X, iWork etc. the same dynamic way.
Uh, have you ever worked in a position where you had to hire people for a major project? You can't just throw up an advertisement on Craigslist and instantly get quality people who click with your existing development teams.
Furthermore, if you honestly believe the flaming Apple cultists who post here on Mac Rumors are an accurate sample of Apple's user base does that mean Apple only sold 2 dozen iBooks and PowerBooks because everyone on the planet was "waiting for the G5?"
Every new "secret" feature that the OSX has is one more tool a developers can't sell. New OS features don't make money on delays, time cost money. And unlike apple, software developers aren't taking staff of fancy phone products so they are likely be ready for a Summer release of their products (Like say Adobe CS3 who just announced).
March was NEVER a possible release date despite people getting that in their head some how...
I love how people think the Apple site was hacked. It's been updated all over the site. Just check the "Leopard" preview page - Spring 2007 has miraculously become "October 2007".
Did that page get hacked too??....
On January 9th, 2006, some 5 quarters ago, Apple was selling G5 desktops and G4 laptops.
Since then, they have introduced the iMac and MBP Core Duos and the Mini Core Duo and Core Solo, bumped the Mini up to only Core Duos, introduced the MacBook Core Duo (an entirely design), introduced the Mac Pro dual Core Duo, bumped up the iMac, Mac Book Pro and Mac Book to Core 2 Duo, introduced a new iPod Shuffle 2G and Nano and bumped the Video iPod up to 80B, introduced an 8-Core Mac Pro, gotten AppleTV and N-routers to market, and run all the new Macs on an entirely new version of OS X that just looks the same as the Gx version.
Oh yeah, Steve doesn't have his mind on OS X and the platform that runs OS X. And before we forget, just like the AppleTV, the frigging iPhone that you are all bitching about is the first phone in the world to run OS X and OS X is becoming an end-o-end platform. So it takes time. So what? Apple is moving like a very fast cat, and it is running on OS X.
Apple is on a roll. So what if we have to wait for Leopard to ship.
Thanks Apple...
Not people like me who are just interested interested in buying a new Mac have to wait longer because you were incompetant to let us know about a delay sooner.
They have been working on 10.5 for years. I just wish they had the guts to tell us that they have always been behing on Leapord.
Not people like me who are just interested interested in buying a new Mac have to wait longer because you were incompetant to let us know about a delay sooner.
They have been working on 10.5 for years. I just wish they had the guts to tell us that they have always been behing on Leapord.