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Vandalism is vandalism. It's a crime. If the French courts are OK with protesters vandalizing the Apple Store properties without consequences, then American tourists should be perfectly OK to vandalize the prized artifacts inside the Louvre without consequences. /sarcasm :rolleyes:

So I can travel to Paris next year, and then spray paint the Arc de Triomphe as long as I have some reason or grievance to do so. Once in court, I can demand that the City of Paris drops its charges on me and the city pays me back for the cost of my spray paint also for the cost of my airplane fare! According to the protesters and vandal-sympathizers here, The French courts will agree and side with me!

Sorry, did they paint on mackbooks and iphones? If they didn't, your analogy is a bit off.
 
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I suggest you open one of those books they call a dictionnary and look up what a "crime" is.
Painting a window is never a crime. Perhaps in North Korea and your in your own ridiculous fancy.

Provide proof of violence or get the fork out. Nobody assaulted anybody. Go on, provide proof of violence. I'm waiting.
Property crimes. Which even Europe has laws against.
 
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In USA it's ok to buy an AR-15 at 17 years of age but you need to be 21 to drive a car.

o_O

I must have missed where they raised the legal age to drive to 21. In all states it's 14-16 to drive a car with a learner's permit, many require driver's ed until perhaps 18 before applying for the full license. Some states have restrictions on the full license for younger teenagers such as no driving at night without a job or whatever. I don't know of any state where it's 21. Gun buying ages are also state regulated.
 
I must have missed where they raised the legal age to drive to 21. In all states it's 14-16 to drive a car with a learner's permit, many require driver's ed until perhaps 18 before applying for the full license. Some states have restrictions on the full license for younger teenagers such as no driving at night without a job or whatever. I don't know of any state where it's 21. Gun buying ages are also state regulated.

The legal age is not 21. It's well below that in most States. You were replied to by someone that probably lies just to get their ridiculous Apple-hating and US-bashing political agenda across. Here is the source, as opposed to people posting outright lies above:

Legal Driving Age by State
 
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God forbid protest actually cause disruption, literally the only method that actually forces change.

If you’re inconvenienced by protest, that’s the whole damn point. Nothing ever changed by merely chanting out of the way.

Okay cool, where's your store at? I'll go protest your opinion inside your store all day long, shouting, putting up signs, interfering with your business and shouting at anyone who tries to buy something. Surely you won't be inconvenienced by that! Vive la révolution!
 
Whilst tax minimisation looked immoral, but seriously, one needs to ask where the fault lies.

If Apple's financial conduct was against the tax code, then by all means punish Apple. The reality of the matter is that the government/parliamentarians established the tax codes and for a long time promoted these tax minimisation structures in the name of attracting big business for national employment opportunities ie. Electoral votes and political business donations. If there's anyone to blame, it's the government and the legislature.

People out there are so ignorant. If people are not happy, then use your voting paper to resolve the issue. Then again, many people are despondent of the democratic process and corruption that goes with it.
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The amount of GREED in Apple's culture today is disgusting. I hope they get taken to the cleaners.
What did you expect from a corporate business that lives under a capitalistic system? Are you promoting socialism where everyone should work for the benefit of others?
 
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Have those people got nothing else better to do the judge should of granted Apple’s request they have no right going into Apple’s stores and disrupting business! Pathetic if you ask me.
If someone shortchanged the us by 13 billion, they’d be sending in the military! Don’t act all high and mighty like Apple are innocent. They don’t deserve the right to sell products if they don’t pay tax.
 
Whilst tax minimisation looked immoral, but seriously, one needs to ask where the fault lies.

If Apple's financial conduct was against the tax code, then by all means punish Apple. The reality of the matter is that the government/parliamentarians established the tax codes and for a long time promoted these tax minimisation structures in the name of attracting big business for national employment opportunities ie. Electoral votes and political business donations. If there's anyone to blame, it's the government and the legislature.

People out there are so ignorant. If people are not happy, then use your voting paper to resolve the issue. Then again, many people are despondent of the democratic process and corruption that goes with it.
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What did you expect from a corporate business that lives under a capitalistic system? Are you promoting socialism where everyone should work for the benefit of others?

Apple have been told they need to pay 13 billion. But they refuse to pay. This isn’t a loophole but illegal Tax aid from Ireland. Yet Apple don’t want to pay it? It’s not about the loophole being valid it’s about Apple Illegally avoiding tax burden.
 
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Hippies, they want to save the world but all they do is sit around smoking pot and defacing Apple stores.
 
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Apple have been told they need to pay 13 billion. But they refuse to pay. This isn’t a loophole but illegal Tax aid from Ireland. Yet Apple don’t want to pay it? It’s not about the loophole being valid it’s about Apple Illegally avoiding tax burden.
Sorry, that's political posturing. Apple like other corporates will pay if they can be shown to be in breach of the tax code. Otherwise it's up to the courts to determine if there's disagreement. That's just due process. Fact is, Apple like everyone is entitled to the 'innocent until proven otherwise' clause.
 
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Interesting. I know they’d lose in the US for writing on the windows. That’s considered vandalism. Easy to wash off? Sure, but it’s still vandalism

Give the Vandals some credit. When they sacked Rome in 455, it wasn't painting slogans of social responsibility on the wall with water soluble paint.

I understand Americans utterly fascistic eagerness to place the unencumbered interests of a businesses pursuit of a dollar over everything in the entire universe, but I'm glad there are parts of the world that have been down that path already and after learning what lay at the end of it, had the sense to avoid such vulgar avarice.
 
Apple have been told they need to pay 13 billion. But they refuse to pay. This isn’t a loophole but illegal Tax aid from Ireland. Yet Apple don’t want to pay it? It’s not about the loophole being valid it’s about Apple Illegally avoiding tax burden.

If you had 13 billion in the bank, and the Government wanted half of it... 7.5 billion in tax. BUT, you could legally move it to another country and avoid said tax bill. Would you do it?

I think we know the answer... because everyones does do it.

A company's social responsibilities to society and the environment are one thing, but when it comes to money, it's another level.

Governments around the world are famous of pissing money up against the wall... I think the answer is more complicated that just blocking these loop holes.

I'm a fan of the Japanese system, companies get a tax cut, but in exchange they need to pay their employees higher salaries.
 
If it is their right is down to local courts and laws, not to your personal view. There is a world (quite large actually) outside the US of A, they can do as they please. You can dislike it as much as you want, you won't change it, and nor will they.
Last time I checked Paris like most cities/states/countries have property crime laws.
 
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Good.

The amount of GREED in Apple's culture today is disgusting. I hope they get taken to the cleaners.

It's kind of crazy to see that Apple are the only ones doing this! :)

(I assume I won't get a reply from you here, as you're only around to bash Apple all the time)
 
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So, if I understand correctly you find painting on a window "vandalising", guess what, you can wash that off in no time.

Commentary on the social issue aside, time taken to clean isn't the problem. That literally is the textbook definition of vandalism, yes.

"Wilful or malicious destruction or defacement of public or private property."

Damage is not required.
 
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