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Bloomberg LP has been a Supermicro customer. According to a Bloomberg LP spokesperson, the company has found no evidence to suggest that it has been affected by the hardware issues raised in the article.

So even Bloomberg itself doesn't really believe its own article??
 
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Ding ding... That's the problem right there... sheer greed.

Profits are not greed. It's why businesses exist. and if you like buying products, then you like businesses existing. I assume you like having phones, and microwaves, and cars. It's a fair exchange of goods/products for a price. You have a job right? So are you greedy? You work for money, right?
 
It totally does

Fake news is fake news. Except not here

Russia is a real threat. China isn’t. Not here. Because it’s apple yay.

You guys have no platform to stand on, after all your hysteria— but please, keep quoting me and keep screeching. That’ll surely work if you do it enough.

RESIST! RESIST logic too! Logic is fascist!

The only on there who seems to be ignoring logic is you with respect. China is no angel nor is Russia or the US or any country. However I do believe that while China has committed hacking offences on the world stage in this instance I do not think this story is true. I also see that Russia is hacking as well.
The difference being that China tends to hack to steal corporate secrets and information on governess officials etc so that they can use it to counter any attempt by that official's country to interfere too much in China's affairs. Whereas Russia tends to hack in order to create political and economical instability and given half a chance would probably do so to cause war.
I think that neither country is better than the other and I am not saying that any is justified in their hacking. I am though saying that if I had to choose between the two I would feel safer with China hacking than Russia.
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Lol nah he believes first amendment means Tim Cook keeps it real 24/7 bc constitution. First amendment protects his truth being truth. Hahaha!

What the **** are you talking about? You make no sense at all.
 
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Who is the SEC? Answer, the government.

What sources are saying Apple was compromised? Answer, the government.

If you don’t think that the government can gag Apple based on national security, you must not realize how far reaching their power actually is.

Now, I’m not saying Apple was compromised, I’m just trying to point out your misunderstanding of the power the government can wield if it so chooses to.

they can GAG apple but they cannot force apple to make an affirmative statement, which is what apple has done.
 
Am I gonna just keep repeating myself?

You guys are adamant russiagate is real. Media doesn’t talk about it anymore because they’re out of steam making a story out of nothing. America rejected Hillary Clinton. Had nothing to do with Russia. But keep believing that if it helps you get over the 2016 election which it
Clearly Doesn’t

Fake news itself is fake news. But yet you say this article is fake news because your emotions and brand loyalty tell you it must be.

People that hold these clearly conflicting views have less than no credibility. So please keep going on about it or how the simple hypocrisy I’m pointing out is incomprehensible.

IF you can stop listening to Trump and believing all that he says as being the truth I will try to explain. Russia DID hack the democrats and DID interfere with the US election!
End of! You may not wish to believe it but some things are true whether you like it nor not.
So stop with the rant because you sound like you need serious help with respect.
Yes China has a lot to answer for and so does Russia and all countries. So try to reflect that instead of seeming to be saying that Russia is purer than the driven snow.
Like i said in another post I would feel safer with China hacking than I would with Russia who seem determined to cause a war given half a chance. They were partially responsible for the shooting down of MH370 in the Ukraine. This assertion was backed up by the team of Dutch investigators who investigated the crash.
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Now it’s an isolating race thing bc you know I’m onto your illogical “logic” ? Hahaha!!

You guys as in logic defying liberals holding conflicting views in the same sentence. Yes those guys.

Liberals do sometimes hold conflicting views but then so do conservatives and ANY political or non political view point. So unless YOU are not human YOU are as bad as the liberals you seem to hate on here!

So you are contradicting yourself.
 
I don't think we can trust Apple's statement on this issue since the FBI/government could have ordered the affected companies to deny it ever happened for national security purposes.
If Apple would admit the security breach they admit their phones and your data is as private and safe as on any other phone. For the people buying the expensive iPhone and thinking their personal data is safe.... Apple can’t allow it to admit it’s true because Apple is trying to convince everyone their cloud offerings and hardware is the most secure with Apple offerings and justifies the high Apple prices. This statement will be wiped in a second if true.
 
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

I don’t see how asking about to allegedly lie breaks a 1st amendment. After all Apple is not a person, well, maybe a judicial entity. Carry on...

Because Apple is not a person, the people who work for Apple are. SO I don't see how the US governed could force Apple employees to all stay silent and refuse to speak.
They could perhaps threaten Tim Cook and others with jail time but surely then his lawyers would then wake up and get busy in which case it becomes front page news.
However I know very little about the US constitution so perhaps there is the scope to keep Apple and it's employees silent. I just do not buy it that's all.
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Russiagate is fake. Yes it’s annoying how many believe it, but not a fan of your China Apple conspiracy

Sorry but Russiagate is real. Sorry but any one other than Trump or his supporters can see that.
 
Russiagate screechers have no platform to stand on saying China isn’t a threat

Just like people saying the term fake news is fake news, are in a pickle as well


You don’t see the hypocrisy because liberals never acknowledge holes in their logic or a complete lack of logic all together. The echo chambers thicken and the introspection diminishes to none.

I’ll bet you attribute the 2018 booming economy to Obama t’ing it up for his beloved friend Trump, and any unsuccessful things as a result of trump too. Selectively pick and choose what’s good and what’s not on behalf of your party and previously failed podium politicians.

Keep up the good
Work!

You say a lot without actually saying anything. Bravo!
 
Because Apple is not a person, the people who work for Apple are. SO I don't see how the US governed could force Apple employees to all stay silent and refuse to speak.
They could perhaps threaten Tim Cook and others with jail time but surely then his lawyers would then wake up and get busy in which case it becomes front page news.
However I know very little about the US constitution so perhaps there is the scope to keep Apple and it's employees silent. I just do not buy it that's all.
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Sorry but Russiagate is real. Sorry but any one other than Trump or his supporters can see that.
I don’t support trump. Yet I can clearly see this is all noise. Just because you don’t like someone doesn’t mean you need to hop on the bandwagon and believe everything.
 
Because Apple is not a person, the people who work for Apple are. SO I don't see how the US governed could force Apple employees to all stay silent and refuse to speak.
They could perhaps threaten Tim Cook and others with jail time but surely then his lawyers would then wake up and get busy in which case it becomes front page news.
However I know very little about the US constitution so perhaps there is the scope to keep Apple and it's employees silent. I just do not buy it that's all.
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Sorry but Russiagate is real. Sorry but any one other than Trump or his supporters can see that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
 
No there wasn’t. There is still no hard evidence. The media being loud doesn’t constitute anything to happen.

Yes there was. Too much evidence all over the place to show it happened. Don Jr DID have a meeting to try to get hold of dirt on Hilary. Unless you are seriously trying to say that never happened. He denied it at first but then later admitted it so why should anyone trust him at all from now on?
if you are a Trump fan or simply do not like the democrats or whatever or whomever you support then that is fine but please try to connect with reality.
Russia DID hack the democrats and DID interfere, I am sorry if that upsets you but no one person, company, entity or country is on a pedestal. So stop thinking that Russia is.
 
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I highly doubt it would be possible to just "add a chip to a motherboard" if that motherboard was not designed for that chip. Was there a convenient socket ready and waiting for this stealth chip? Sorry Bloomberg, the real world ain't like the movies. :rolleyes:

But at the same time, I'm skeptical about security screenings of incoming hardware. If a new server arrived shrink-wrapped in plastic, do you think they completely disassemble it and inspect the layout of every circuit before before putting it into production use? I doubt that. They likely do run a software screening, and maybe that has some diagnostic / signature system to verify its integrity, but to physically inspect the hardware seems like a reach to me.

Knowing China's tendency to hack and spit I am sure that Apple would have inspected the hardware as a matter of common sense. Software checking only find so much.
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This is horrifyingly beautiful

Pol threads need more of this

My hat goes off out of Total and utter respect for macrumors

In the year 2018 macrumors is the place to go for pol discourse knowing there’s no censorship. As long as you don’t violate the clear bipartisan rules you’re gravy.

Not reddit not twitter not Facebook. Macrumors.

If that is how you think then stop posting on here. if you do not like it then go elsewhere. Either put up or shut up as I used to get told.
 
Yes there was. Too much evidence all over the place to show it happened. Don Jr DID have a meeting to try to get hold of dirt on Hilary. Unless you are seriously trying to say that never happened. He denied it at first but then later admitted it so why should anyone trust him at all from now on?
if you are a Trump fan or simply do not like the democrats or whatever or whomever you support then that is fine but please try to connect with reality.
Russia DID hack the democrats and DID interfere, I am sorry if that upsets you but no one person, company, entity or country is on a pedestal. So stop thinking that Russia is.
I’m going to assume you know the whole backstory then. The first ‘Russain’ allegations came from the Hillary campaign, I’m a Bernie guy so I’m not too hot on her. But it had started after the Wikileaks email dump, it was never mentioned prior.

If you’ve read the intelligence report (the actual report), you’ll find out that they pinned it on Russia citing an entity ‘Guccifer 2.0’. What happened to Wikileaks? Strange that an intellgience report makes no mention of Wikileaks being the actual source, but rather uses Guccifer 2.0’s documents even though the guccifer documents have a *later timestamp*. Another strange fact is those documents, which are an exact copy of the Wikileaks email dump, are the same except for the newly added russain fingerprints on the bottom, created after the original Wikileaks files. Why oh why, would you cite copied altered documents is a stumper for me.

The document claims the files were hacked, but why does computer forensics show that the stolen files were transferred at USB speeds?

This is the foundation of the Russian narrative, it’s where it all started. It’s a house of cards.

Plus since then, there has been dozens of misleading and straight out false stories about Russia in the media. So much so that editors are being fired.
 
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Yes, Bloomberg's certainty is interesting. But so is Apple's. Apple has a lot to lose if it gets out that they're misrepresenting the situation since they're building a brand based on consumer trust (not to mention how the SEC might view their statements). They've gone beyond saying nothing and issued a strong denial. It is, of course, possible that neither corporation is lying, but that some of the sources or their sources are purposely distorting the facts.

Except that Bloomberg has more of a track record of lying than Apple does. So I would take what Bloomberg has said with a pinch of salt.
 
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This is an embarrassment for Apple. As a consumer, I am disappointed.
maybe you could wait for more details to emerge before jumping to a conclusion like this? If it’s true, apple is in serious trouble. But it would be very uncharacteristic for them to deny things so strongly if it were true. I don’t think Apple lie about this stuff; they may obfuscate and spin, but their statement seems very clearly worded to me.
 
Did this report also blow the cover on the question of what server hardware and server OS does Apple use in their data centers, and could this be another reason why Apple is upset over it? One would expect them to be using Mac Mini servers and the current version of macOS Server. Is that not true?

In a strongly-worded statement, Apple denied Bloomberg Businessweek's report:

...Apple has always believed in being transparent about the ways we handle and protect data...
 
Did this report also blow the cover on the question of what server hardware and server OS does Apple use in their data centers? One would expect them to be using Mac Mini servers and the current version of macOS Server.

So Supermicro makes Apple servers to run macOS Server?

They don't run macOS server in their cloud servers
 
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IF you can stop listening to Trump and believing all that he says as being the truth I will try to explain. Russia DID hack the democrats and DID interfere with the US election!
End of! You may not wish to believe it but some things are true whether you like it nor not.
So stop with the rant because you sound like you need serious help with respect.
Yes China has a lot to answer for and so does Russia and all countries. So try to reflect that instead of seeming to be saying that Russia is purer than the driven snow.
Like i said in another post I would feel safer with China hacking than I would with Russia who seem determined to cause a war given half a chance. They were partially responsible for the shooting down of MH370 in the Ukraine. This assertion was backed up by the team of Dutch investigators who investigated the crash.
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Truth is note the same as fact. It may be factual that Russia (state) hacked the DNC (NB contrary to public perception only a private company Cloudstrike and the DHS did an actual inspection of the hack AFAIK) and by extension "interfered" with the US election (the legal definition of which is rather vague), whether that amounts to a truth that Trump was placed into office thanks to the Russians is debatable (you cannot run counter-factuals). Note that it is also very convenient to use such hacks as excuses for:
1. Undermining the legitimacy of a public vote. I see this happen with Brexit, where suddenly, almost 2 years after the referendum in 2016, Russian "meddling" (whatever that mean) is used as a reason to doubt the results, although having living in the North of the UK for many years I am sure that the population is quite capable of making the wrong choice all by itself (see US election*)
2. We may want to prevent Chinese companies from competing on large infrastructure contracts (e.g. ZTE), thus circumventing protectionism allegations to the WTO...

Do not underestimate the influences of the Military- Industrial complex on foreign policy. It's what gives a lot of Americans a job...


*FWIW IMO HRC and DT are both horrible people - one is a manipulative narcissistic psychopath and the other is a anti-intellectual narcissistic compulsive liar. In my estimation the most intellectually honest and credible US presidents in my lifetime have been Obama and Reagan - I say that to assuage claims that I'm a blind follower of any particular ideology.
 
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Makes me wonder if some of the lawsuits Apple has faced over iPhone problems is involved with this and that Apple just considers this a cost of doing business. I'm not saying or claiming they don't care, just that some problems like this are just chalked up and solved on the backend as it's still cheaper to assemble Apple products in China then anywhere else by far. Hmm.
 
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