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Apple Design Chief Jony Ive Discusses iPhone X and Apple Park in New Interview
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Wrong! That’s actually a fact, not an opinion. =P The keyboard and autocorrect functionality are absolutely worse now than they used to be.
Again, I've said this before. Without Steve Jobs reining him in on his "pure" designs, Jony is designing stuff that's not usable. But sure looks good. He was actually scared of Steve. Can you imagine him taking Cook seriously in any design decisions that Cook mike suggest? lol, heck no!
Jony Ive is nice to hear in advertising clips for Apple products with his seductive voice and self-praisings and maybe he did some good work with Mac Book Air (long ago! Years before 2010), Apple watch, Ear Pods, Air Pods and?
BUT some small SINS and some BIG remain deeper in brain:
He is guilty for the Apple LAPTOP DESASTER of the last 4 to 7 years as
1. thin, but NOT ENOUGH battery for 14 to 16 hours of continuous work on Mac Book Pro - instead you need a BIG BAG of adapters and MBP heavy beautiful with adapters or monstrous docs and car transformer
2. NOT ENOUGH ports for further usage of our professional equipment (thunderbolt 2, USB 3, SD-Slot, HDMI) - instead you need a BIG BAG of adapters and MBP heavy beautiful with adapters or monstrous docs...
And everybody keeps in mind the Mac Pro DESASTER: too many details about this
Some SMALL:
For every iPhone you need CASE to give him that shelter, Jony Ive was too idle to preserve it - i Phone X: of course these 2 surfaces of glass CRY for a prominent edge at this steel frame or you get a lifelong insurance for glass damages at these prices we have already
So, THUMB DOWN,
better he visit the Queen more often, OR,
he takes some lessons in ergonomics, because his 3 D Touch (iPhone) and Touch Bar (MBP) are NOT ERGONOMIC highlights...
Sad, he will not read this
The SMALL ones?
Mouse (lightning socket at bottom side), pencil (charging and handling), Air Pod case (without charging LED), notch (functional parts and informations should be positiones out of any active display fomat) - do we need more?
The rest of all is nothing but tactics: criticizing iPhone 7+ means same to 8+ - a running product!
Wow. Thank god you don’t have even a remote say in design. Holy crap.
"It now seems to me a rather disconnected component housed in an enclosure," he said about iPhone 7 Plus. first of all its the best design so far, slick and black. People remember my words, next year he'll say SAME B*S about iPhone X.
first of all its the best design so far, slick and black. People remember my words, next year he'll say SAME B*S about iPhone X.
Is it my imagination or is that picture of Jony deliberately done is a way to make him look like Steve Jobs. The scruffy beard, receding hairline, deep shadows, and high contrast remind me a lot of the later pictures of Steve. All he needs is a set of rimless glasses and the makeover would be complete.
Me too. What I suspect though, they are likely running a diagnostics OS we have seen in the past. But I am sure a near complete model likely runs a near finished iOS beta at least a few months before. Based on watching leaks and public discussions, the executive team usually has a near finish product around May. We also saw the imprints in Tim's pocket August, give or take, he probably had it a couple months before.
This guy is so full of himself... has drank too much of his own koolaid... irrelevant anymore.
Can one really be characterized as too full of oneself if one is the designer behind the iMac, iPod, iPhone and iPad?
He probably designed them and is pretending to be comfortable. “Different and new is relatively easy. Doing something that's genuinely better is very hard... like this chair.”
Is that some sort of a non-issue issue still? Would bulkier phones just to avoid that be better or would we be talking about why someone would still be cool with bulkier phones?
What's with the Apple Watch?
The iPhone X design will still be in use next year and for some time beyond that, so nothing like that would really be said about it, at least not until a newer design that they think is better would become available."It now seems to me a rather disconnected component housed in an enclosure," he said about iPhone 7 Plus.
It is pretty amazing how beautiful and amazing the iPhone 7 was to Ive just 14 months ago, and now it looks disconnected... And the 8/8 Plus share the same design. Seems beneath Ive to offer such an old design to the market. I get it. It’s abot pushing their new future design form. At least they gave the 8 Plus the same internals the X had and the basically the same rear camera.
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And the 8/8 Plus share the same design. Seems beneath Ive to offer such an old design to the market. I get it. It’s abot pushing their new future design form. At least they gave the 8 Plus the same internals the X had and the basically the same rear camera.[doublepost=1512086666][/doublepost]
More so the 8, and the 8 Plus only in the large bezel design. The screen being a 401 ppi LCD may be outdated but it’s still a fantastic screen. Nothing else about the 8 and particularly the 8 Plus is outdated.
Totally agree. I couldn’t get the Jet Black 128GB 7 Plus because they are we’re in short supply, so I ended up with the matte black which is a close second. The Black iPhone 4/4S, Space Grey iPhone 5/5S, and the Jet/matte black colored 7/7Plus are some of the best looking smartphones ever in my opinion. I still haven’t seen the Black iPhone 8 Plus but I’m gonna pick one up over the holidays.
And before induction charging was financially or technically feasible, where would you have suggested they put the charging port so that it wasn’t sticking out like a sore thumb while the mouse was in it’s typical, upright position?
Is that some sort of non-rhetorical rhetorical question?
In any case, I don’t know the answer. But it’s a bit odd for a designer to care so much about the three-dimensional properties and the tactile feel of their design, only to build in such an obvious compromise.
I’ve owned pretty much every version of the iPhone, but since the 6, I’ve never routinely held the admittedly great-feeling phone bare in my hand because my options are either use the protruding camera lens as an ad hoc kickstand, or add bulk by way of a case. What’s the point of working something down to 7mm thickness, only to force a compromise that will drive so many buyers to add 2mm right back into the equation?
Anyway, it’s not THAT big of an “issue” - it clearly hasn’t changed my buying habits. I just felt it was curious and maybe a bit hypocritical in the context of this particular Ive interview.
It isn't that it is broken, it is that the whole idea that is, which means you have to pose for it, as compared to touch id which was a lot more natural.
They also revert to password after 1 failure to detect. Touch id would let you keep trying. Face id should keep scanning until it can match.
So say you are lying in bed / on couch, part of face is covered by pillow or whatever, it needs a lot more additional work to unlock the phone then with touchid which did not require anything extra to happen.
The lock screen becomes confused as well, you can be doing something like trying to turn on the light and during that it unlocks automatically and removes the button.
The implementation seems rushed, isn't natural, and is a step back for a lot of the smoothness of touch id.
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His whole design philosophy seems to be take existing design and shave 2mm off of it. And if possible put in hires screen.
His second design philosophy is to take the port people use most and remove it.
His third design philosophy is that mobile devices should not use the same connectors as computers.
Which leads to the 4th design philosophy, solve it with a dongle.
I don't any more. Later this month I'm buying my first Windows PC in over twenty years. Sorry Apple, but you've lost me.
Ive is totally correct. iPhone 8/8+ is iPhone 7/7+ with minor tweaks: glass back, wireless charging, True Tone plus some new camera changes. The front design is 4 years old. The back camera design is one year old.
I think his statement is being taken out of context. I read the article and based on the set up by the writer in prior sentences, I think he’s referring simply to the design relationship of the screen and bezel. “Disconnected component” isn’t the whole phone as much as I think he means the screen is not as immersive due to the dump truck bezels encompassing the screen. Call me a sheep if you want, but that’s just my take on it.
Jony Ive never has been a designer... he is nothing more than ... just an extremely overestimated stylist
I have the same opinion. I am surprised every time I go back and use IOS6 iPhone 4S keyboard to see what it was like. The keyboard is smaller, but I can type better than the iPhone plus models I had. Apple really has to revive their old philosophy on usability and everything about Apple.
Regardless of how you read it, he is still pointing out iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone 8 have a "disconnected component", aka not optimum design according to him.
He shouldnt be pushing out these products in that case.
Just like the first iPhone, Apple should focus on one model instead of becoming fragmented with screen ratios, specs etc.
One OPTIMUM design, maybe a plus size in that. No SE, or releasing 2 iPhone designs in one year.
The iPhone X should have come in a plus size also and thats it, not alongside the 8/+.
Either that or hold out on the X til next year, and focus on making 8/+ the best it can be.
This is becoming a case of too many models, not enough focus.
If Ives followed your logic, we wouldn’t have had a 6, 6s, 7 or 8. Hell, we might not have even had a phone period since every build before the X has that “disconnected component”. However, that’s assuming he was referring to the relationship between the screen and bezel. Regardless of what Ives says, it’s ultimately your choice to use the iPhone-whatever. Buy it or don’t. There’s no such thing as optimum in this space. What one may like, another may not.
While I agree with SOME of your points.. the spelling of *DISASTER just made me question YOUR attention to detailJony Ive is nice to hear in advertising clips for Apple products with his seductive voice and self-praisings and maybe he did some good work with Mac Book Air (long ago! Years before 2010), Apple watch, Ear Pods, Air Pods and?
BUT some small SINS and some BIG remain deeper in brain:
He is guilty for the Apple LAPTOP DESASTER of the last 4 to 7 years as
1. thin, but NOT ENOUGH battery for 14 to 16 hours of continuous work on Mac Book Pro - instead you need a BIG BAG of adapters and MBP heavy beautiful with adapters or monstrous docs and car transformer
2. NOT ENOUGH ports for further usage of our professional equipment (thunderbolt 2, USB 3, SD-Slot, HDMI) - instead you need a BIG BAG of adapters and MBP heavy beautiful with adapters or monstrous docs...
And everybody keeps in mind the Mac Pro DESASTER: too many details about this
Some SMALL:
For every iPhone you need CASE to give him that shelter, Jony Ive was too idle to preserve it - i Phone X: of course these 2 surfaces of glass CRY for a prominent edge at this steel frame or you get a lifelong insurance for glass damages at these prices we have already
So, THUMB DOWN,
better he visit the Queen more often, OR,
he takes some lessons in ergonomics, because his 3 D Touch (iPhone) and Touch Bar (MBP) are NOT ERGONOMIC highlights...
Sad, he will not read this
The SMALL ones?
Mouse (lightning socket at bottom side), pencil (charging and handling), Air Pod case (without charging LED), notch (functional parts and informations should be positiones out of any active display fomat) - do we need more?
The rest of all is nothing but tactics: criticizing iPhone 7+ means same to 8+ - a running product!
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I believe you missinterpreted my point.
Each year, there should only be one OPTIMAL model, for that year.
OPTIMAL meaning - the best technology (although I own an 8+, I consider the X "better technology" afterall it is the new 'flagship' phone).
So we would have the 6 the 6s and 7. Not 8, or the SE however, as they were 'compromised technologically'.
This would allow for much higher focus and minimal fragmentation in the line up= hopefully a better product.
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While I agree with SOME of your points.. the spelling of *DISASTER just made me question YOUR attention to detail
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I believe you missinterpreted my point.
Each year, there should only be one OPTIMAL model, for that year.
So we would have the 6 the 6s and 7. Not 8, or the SE however.
This would allow for much higher focus and minimal fragmentation in the line up= hopefully a better product.
When there was one model people complained that it was too big, too small, too costly, etc. Now they have variety. The more units, the more likely it is someone will find something more fitting for him/her. There are people who can’t stand the X. For those people with older devices that want wireless charging, True Tone, or whatever, the 8/+ is right up their alley. In the end it’s all about market share. More variety, more customers, more money. Unfortunately, this is akin to the Apple of the 90’s.