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Apple Developing Its Own MicroLED Displays for Future Devices

Sevanw said:
First Apple plays catch up with adopting OLED, now they copy Samsung with MicroLED. Good grief, just damn embarrassing. When Samsung doesn't bother making an OLED TV, you gotta ask why. Instead they reveal the world's first MicroLED TV. OLED is great for mobile devices that don't have the same lifespan as a TV, hence Sammy's genius modular MicroLED TV. Apple developing their own MicroLED display obviously really means, Apple buying out companies that have already done all the hard work.
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COPY SAMSUNG? You are trolling right?
 
DNichter said:
Yea, unlikely they'll be able to survive as is. They are failing in the way they currently do business.
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Didn't say that :)

Just that they are VERY (totally) reliant as a company on others.
Apple will come out with a MicroLED product, but as others are also working on it, what generally happens is, once Apple are at the point of the tech existing to make it, so is everyone else at almost the same point, so it will all come from many companies around the same time.
 
DNichter said:
Except no one cares who is "first", we only care which is better. Apple did the same thing with OLED and they'll do the same with microLED, when it's ready. Samsung can rush it out the door like OLED, that's totally fine.
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LOL, what exactly did they do with OLED? Please explain in detail exactly what Apple did for you to conclude, "Apple did the same thing with OLED."
 
I was going to say:

So our iPhone screens won't look all fuzzy and grainy with these micro LED screens?

But then I realised it made me sound like a luddite.
 
Sevanw said:
LOL, what exactly did they do with OLED? Please explain in detail exactly what Apple did for you to conclude, "Apple did the same thing with OLED."
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They released a phone with a better OLED panel than what had been released prior.
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Piggie said:
Didn't say that :)

Just that they are VERY (totally) reliant as a company on others.
Apple will come out with a MicroLED product, but as others are also working on it, what generally happens is, once Apple are at the point of the tech existing to make it, so is everyone else at almost the same point, so it will all come from many companies around the same time.
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They don't stand a chance.
 
Cough....it's all for the "goggles". (Glasses, HMD, inter-cranial surgically implanted screen or whatever)
Control the tech.
Control the world.

:)
 
Keep pushing the tech to be the best it can be, I love hearing this. Its like when they started making square batteries to get more power out of a device. So cool.
 
If MicroLED wasn't ditched for OLED this technology would have already been on the mass market for years.
Instead Samsung and LG invested billions in OLED so they couldn't pull out. OLED isn't bad -but for the research that went into it we could have µLED already working years ago. I mean, Sony actually had a prototype TV displayed under the name "Crystal LED" in 2012.*

Maybe, in 2019/2020 we are finally going to have LED screens... Would be about time.

*Yes, 2012, SIX YEARS AGO. A working device. So, please don't applaude Samsung, Apple or actually anyone. Apple is still using oldschool LCD mostly, not even a 4K screen on a Macbook Pro yet, Samsungs OLED had the natural color of... I don't know what they call natural... and LG... they were in the boat with Samsung most of the time. Sony dropped it, so they don't deserve credits either.
 
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Piggie said:
Didn't say that :)

Just that they are VERY (totally) reliant as a company on others.
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Every single company in the world that produces any type of consumer electronic device is reliant on others. Even Samsung phones contain a large number of parts made by other companies.

So what’s your point? Why single out Apple when they are no different from every other company on the planet?
 
syan48306 said:
Yeah but can microLED individually turn off per pixel, offering extreme contrast and crushing deep blacks?
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From a consumer point of view, you can think of microLED as a more molecularly stable version of OLED. The main advantages are efficiency and longevity. This will allow for brighter displays that won’t experience burn-in or color shifting over time.
(Yes, I understand that they are built quite differently from OLED, but they fill the same use case and share a very similar end result)
 
BasicGreatGuy said:
If Apple can pull this off, it should mean better quality at a lower end cost (at least I hope so).
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oled is better than "micro"led atm
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HiVolt said:
But who's gonna manufacture it on a large scale? Is Apple finally prepared to actually build a factory to build a part of their devices?

All the billions in the world, yet they still rely on others making parts.
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Maybe that is the key to earning billions ;)
 
MicroLED screens use different light-emitting compounds than the current OLED displays and promise to make future gadgets slimmer, brighter and less power-hungry.
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Ah yes, "make it slimmer", said Jonny and Tim to each other. Everyone else in the room glances nervously at each other and whispers "someone should tell them."
 
Piggie said:
It's hard when you rely on your rivals to make it for you.

If Apple actually started making things as opposed to using things other people develop and make then they may stand a chance.
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Back to the beginning of Apple, they've always included some custom chip sets in their devices. It has been these smaller attentions to detail that kept Macs separate from all other PCs. That approach continues today.

As for "standing a chance"... not sure what you mean. They continue to get the lion's share of profit from their device sales. Other companies may sell more devices, but that's pointless if those companies are selling them at a loss.
 
iReality85 said:
PWM is caused when AC voltage is applied to the screen’s light source (e.g. the backlight with LCD, or the screen itself like with OLED). Because the current alternates, flicker is induced, and it can become bothersome at low frequencies (low screen brightness). AFAIK, there is no way around this other than applying DC voltage, regardless of the display technology.

The question is if the manufacturer adds an AC to DC converter. Many monitors now have non-PWM screens, meaning they’re built with DC converters for constant voltage to the backlight. I believe LG’s OLED TVs are also non-PWM. There’s no reason mLED couldn’t be non-PWM, if the manufacturer of the phone, watch, TV etc gave it DC voltage.
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That's not even close to what PWM is. PWM is DC square wave of varying duty cycle.

https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/pulse-width-modulation
 
Keirasplace said:
It wasn't really microled, why? because it was 146 fracking inches. Got that. Samsung was blowing smoke.
a microled display would have been 14 inch with the same resolution.
Yeah, Samsung are bS artists.
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As a point of education, MicroLED doesn't refer to the size of each pixel, rather it's a coined term that covers self-emitting diodes of individual colour that don't require a backlight. Your opinion is no different than calling Apple "BS artists" for still selling a MacBook Air that's bigger than the MacBook.

Heineken said:
Apple didn't start working on it yesterday you know?
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Agreed, and given that they are usually quite secretive gives me hope that they're well along the development timeline. I was only referring to Samsungs showcase as quite a few people are acting like Apple has something unique up their sleeve, no realising that just anyone with the manufacturing capacity to build such a device is likely already R&D'ing it.
 
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Bloomberg's report suggests, however, that it will likely be a few years until Apple's MicroLED displays will appear in shipping products, perhaps two years for the Apple Watch and three to five years for the iPhone. Apple will likely also outsource full-scale production of the displays.
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Hmmm...3 to 5 years for the iPhone wow ! That's a pretty long time !! I wonder how much would it be for the iPad than ?
 
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